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A Buttery Pastry: Sep 4, 2011; Delicious and Informative!

Milky Moor posted:

I stopped following Warcraft after TFT but why are the Orcs brown?

I'm guessing it's related to the weird retcon where the 'bad' Orcs were all actually red-skinned and not green from Warcraft 3?

Brown (and other earth tones) is the natural orc color, but nearly the entire species was corrupted by demons, which turned their skin green. Though as you mention, in Warcraft 3, demonic corruption turned green orcs red.

ufarn posted:

Can't wait for Durotan to chug a Mountain Dew and give the camera a thumbs up before heading into battle.

Mountain dew is what caused the corruption of the orcs in the first place.

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A Buttery Pastry: Sep 4, 2011; Delicious and Informative!

Polo-Rican posted:

I think the most ominous thing about the trailer is the endless predictable "should we trust our enemies?" dialogue. It makes the whole plot feel easy to forecast. Humans and orcs fight a little, then a bigger threat (probably Legion) approaches, then 60 minutes of trying to establish an alliance, one rear end in a top hat orc or human makes the alliance go bad, they kill the guy and then things go good, we see a single shot of a Legion walking through a portal and Bam, closing credits.

You'd get the exact same result if you largely stuck to the pre-existing story, with the bigger threat being confronted in the end being the warlocks who are corrupting orcish society through demonic magic. That way you can have a win against a clearly bad guy, but not in a way that papers over all the blood that has already been spilled, providing a reason for conflict/distrust in the sequels which then has to be overcome to defeat the real bad guys behind it all. Seeing as Thrall is included in this movie as a baby, the sequel could recap the intervening two decades of conflict as seen through his eyes, providing both insight into him as a character, bring people who haven't seen the first one up to speed, and set the stage for the conflict which would characterize the first part of the movie before things really turn to poo poo and they're forced to work together. There's really no reason to blow your load all at once, not when you're trying to make a trilogy and possibly start a greater movie franchise.

_{Any use of sequel/next one is referring to the obviously planned sequels, and is not indicative of a belief that they'll actually exist.}

A Buttery Pastry fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Nov 7, 2015

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Milky Moor posted:

so the orcs are brown skinned savages from another world?

ahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Some of them are black-grey...

e: Apparently Blizzard has now taken to German racialism of the 19th century/Nazism for inspiration too, using "Blood and Soil" as the name for a skill for one of the traditionally good guy classes. Now if only they could take cinematic cues from Riefenstahl.

Cythereal posted:

Filing this movie into my "See it when drunk off my rear end with friends" list. Warcraft has had moments of very good storytelling and characters, even in recent years in WoW. The problem is that those moments tend to have nothing to do with the tired old Orcs vs Humans plot that's been run so far into the ground it's surfacing somewhere in the South China Sea, and I can't see Metzen letting this movie be about the parts of Warcraft that are actually generally creative and written well.

If it's surfacing in the South China Sea then the Chinese will have to watch the movie to secure their claims.

A Buttery Pastry fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Nov 8, 2015

# ¿ Nov 8, 2015 09:46

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Baron Bifford posted:

I thought the whole point of giving orcs green skin was to avoid racial connotations. Why would Blizzard reverse this?

The green skin was probably just inspired by Warhammer, back when they hoped to obtain a license to make a Warhammer game. If anyone thought about avoiding racial connotations it was probably the early creators of the Warhammer franchise.

Darth Walrus posted:

Do remember that Warlocks also used to have a talent called 'Holocaust'.

Obviously Blizzard just used the word in its original meaning, instead of the modern definition, which only came to dominate from around the 60's and forward. They really didn't have a choice, there are only so many badass ways to name a fire spell. Plus warlocks are bad guys, so it's OK.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2015 15:38

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Terrible Opinions posted:

Haha no. The creators of the warhammer franchise were the ones who thought "pygmy" was a good idea as a fantasy army race and the same about modeling orcs are skullshape displays on scientific racism. The orcs in warhammer only started looking not horrifically racist after they started copying warcraft right back in the mid 90s.

Well that was clearly not mere connotations, that was explicitly regurgitating racist colonial views on Sub-Saharan Africans.

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