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System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

https://twitter.com/Safaitic/status/1343444983983050753?s=20

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Feb 28, 2010

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Byzantine posted:

I don't approve of Vandals.

How does your gimmick keep being relevant, I'm in awe

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Are there any other buildings with such a quick turnaround from "edgy eyesore" to "city-defining beloved landmark" as the Eiffel Tower?

I don't know if it was as quick, but while the state opera in Vienna is far from being as city-defining as the Eiffel Tower is, it's still an important part of the city's cultural as well as tourist infrastructure - quite contrary to its initial perception when the Viennese (including the Emperor) hated it so much that one of its two architects commited suicide. According to legend the Emperor was so shocked by the consequences of his criticism that for the rest of his life he said about every arts-related issue just a stereotypical "It was very nice, I liked it quite a lot"

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

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Angry Salami posted:

So would you say they conduct a... murder investigation? :imunfunny:

:negative:

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

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https://twitter.com/kalinah/status/1357775062758273026?s=20

if you come at the master farter, you better not miss

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

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Re: trees planting: This article's a year old so it's historical in my book

The Guardian posted:

Most of 11m trees planted in Turkish project 'may be dead'

Agriculture and forestry union says up to 90% of saplings they have looked at so far have died


Up to 90% of the millions of saplings planted in Turkey as part of a record-breaking mass planting project may have died after just a few months, according to the country’s agriculture and forestry trade union.

On 11 November last year, which the government declared National Forestation Day, 11 million trees were planted by volunteers in more than 2,000 sites across the country, including by the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, and the parliament Speaker, Mustafa Şentop.

The government-backed programme broke the world record for the most trees planted in one hour in a single location, with 303,150 saplings planted in the northern Anatolian city of Çorum.

The head of the union claimed, however, that 90% of the saplings his teams have inspected so far have died because of insufficient water. Speaking to the Guardian, Şükrü Durmuş attributed the deaths to the saplings being planted at “the wrong time” and “not by experts”, as well as a lack of rainfall.

Durmuş said the union has carried out research in six of Turkey’s 81 provinces, and further investigations are planned.

The ministry of agriculture and forestry denied the claim and said that “as of today, 95% of the more than 11 million saplings planted are healthy and continuing to grow”.

The union cast doubt on the government’s claims. “Even with normal time and preparation, the success rate is between 65 and 70%,” said Durmuş. “The 95% rate given by the ministry is never true.”

The dispute adds to the global debate about mass tree-planting, with critics pointing out the sometimes poor survival rate of mass-planted saplings, and the use of such projects to “greenwash” states and companies with otherwise poor environmental records.

Both trees and the wider environment have emerged as particularly prominent in Turkish politics over the past few years, most notably during the months-long protests sparked by the government plan to redevelop Istanbul’s Gezi Park.

Erdoğan has declared that National Reforestation Day will be repeated every 11 November.

The ruling AK party claims it has planted more than 4.5bn saplings in its 17 years in power. However, its environmental policies continue to attract criticism, most recently over the razing of forests to build Istanbul’s new airport, and over plans to create a 45km (28-mile) canal to divert shipping traffic from the Bosphorus.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

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Just learned this fun fact: In 1820, the Austrian Empire decreed that poor people needed to acquire an "marriage consensus", i.e. the official permission to marry, by their municipality before going to their priest and arrange a wedding. The reasoning behind this was that poor people were more likely to produce lots of poor children who would then burden the state's welfare budget even more. This rule got abolished in 1869 for most parts of the Empire, although in some areas (namely Salzburg, Tyrol and Vorarlberg) it persisted for longer - in the latter two even well after WW1! In the end only farmhands, day labourers and beggars were covered by it and even then only if they were drawing welfare.

Anyway, for a good while during the 19th century poor people were de facto not allowed to marry. There were quite a few priests who were willing to ignore this and wed couples nonetheless, but they risked punishment both from the state and the church by doing that. But there was also another option: In 19th century Rome, unmarried couples arriving in the city were forcibly wed since the ecclesiastical authorities of the time didn't want people loving in the eternal city outside of the bounds of marriage, I guess.

So for several decades during the 19th century, poor couples from Austria and especially from Tyrol (probably because it was the closest, but also because the marriage consensus was handled the strictest there) would often go on a pilgrimage to Rome where they would visit churches, get indulgences and aim to get arrested and forcibly wed by the local authorities. After coming back they would risk three to six months of jail for this, but they were married after all and there was nothing Austria could do about this.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Yeah, same in Germany and Austria. Until 2009 a couple of years ago priests weren't even allowed to perform a wedding if the couple hadn't entered a legal marriage beforehand, but this got changed now that nobody cares anymore about the validity of legal vs sacramental marriage.

Up until 1938 though, all matters of official documentation pertaining to people's legal status (ie birth, marriage, death etc) was done by the various religious communities in Austria, so for the most part the Catholic Church. For older people their official record is therefore still maintained by the church, which can lead to unforeseen consequences like the case of a Catholic priest a couple of years ago, who had reached retirement age and was now about to clandestinely marry his affair. It was supposed to be a legal only ceremony so that the church wouldn't get wind of it, but he didn't remember that due to his age his file was still kept by the church, which meant that the state authorities automatically gave the information about his wedding over to whatever parish he was born. Since the church also documents ordinations in their records, they immediately knew that he a) was a priest and b) got married, and there was a big hubbub about it.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

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Carthag Tuek posted:

vodka + balls = snaps

you can turn anything into a snaps (or as the germans call it "schnapps" because they like extra letters). just mix high alcohol sprits and ______ for a month. the sky is your limit!

and my favourite schnapps is just vodka or Korn plus finely cut swiss pine cones plus a boatload of sugar. "A guada Zirm", as we say in Bavaria

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

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System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Finally the Historical Fun Fact thread becomes historical itself

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Reminds me of the dude who created a pain scale of insect bites/stings by finding out himself which ones hurt the most (the Schmidt sting pain index). Here are some excerpts:

digger bee, level 1 posted:

almost pleasant, a lover just bit your earlobe a little too hard

sweat bee, level 1 posted:

light, ephemeral, almost fruity. A tiny spark has singed a single hair on your arm

termite-raiding ant, level 2 posted:

the debilitating pain of a migraine contained in the tip of your finger

yellowjacket, level 2 posted:

hot and smoky, almost irreverent. Imagine W. C. Fields extinguishing a cigar on your tongue

Maricopa harvester ant, level 3 posted:

after eight unrelenting hours of drilling into that ingrown toenail, you find the drill wedged into the toe

bullet ant, level 4 posted:

pure, intense, brilliant pain...like walking over flaming charcoal with a three-inch nail embedded in your heel

warrior wasp, level 4 posted:

Torture. You are chained in the flow of an active volcano. Why did I start this list?

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

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So here's a fun fact I learned just now: Prince Philip was so old that his birth date was registered in the Julian calendar

He was born in 1921 in Greece which adopted the Gregorian calendar only two years later

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

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Here’s something that blew my mind a little: the man who was in all likelihood the last person to have served the Weimar Republic as a soldier died only this morning!

Ludwig Piller was born in 1914 and joined up with the Reichswehr the day he turned 18 in 1932. Piller was fascinated with aviation and ended up as a mechanic with the air force, which at that time still had to be kept a secret due to the Treaty of Versailles forbidding Germany from operating one. By sheer chance Piller met Ernst Udet, the legendary fighter ace from WW1 who took a liking to the young soldier and arranged for him to be trained as a pilot. Twelve days after the start of WW2 and right before his being sent to Poland, Piller married his girlfriend so that she would be able to receive a widow's rent if he wouldn't make it back. The marriage lasted right to his death, at which point the two had been a couple for 84 years. Despite being shot down twice, Piller survived the war and claimed that after Germany's surrender he even was kept by the US along with other pilots for a while in case the war with Japan would drag on longer. After the war Piller worked as a salesman. He died at the ripe old age of 106.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

It always boggles my mind that Hitler's deputy was alive and in prison until 1987. That's only half a year before I was born, talk about recent history

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System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

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Say you are a man or woman born in the western Ukrainian town of Mukachevo in the year 1918 and die in 1993 at 75 years old, never leaving your hometown for more than the occasional vacation. In the course of your lifetime, Mukachevo was:

- part of Austria Hungary (until 1918)
- part the Hungarian Soviet Republic (1918)
- simultaneously claimed but not controlled by the West Ukrainian People's Republic (1918-23)
- occupied by Romania (1918/19)
- recaptured by the Hungarian Soviet Republic (1919)
- occupied and annexed by Czechoslovakia (1919-38)
- part of the autonomous territory of Carpatho-Ukraine within Czechoslovakia (1938)
- occupied and annexed the Kingdom of Hungary (1938-44)
- claimed by the Republic of Carpatho-Ukraine which existed for less than 24 hours (1939)
- occupied by Germany (1944)
- part of fascist Hungary (1944)
- occupied by the Soviet Union (1944/45)
- claimed by Czechoslovakia (1944/45)
- incorporated into the Soviet Union (1945-91)
- part of independent Ukraine (since 1991)


The main square of Mukachevo in November 1938, shortly after being annexed by Hungary following the First Vienna Award

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