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Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

You don't get to talk to nisse, you don't get to look at nisse, you get to do what nisse wants. Or else nisse will make you regret yourself.

But if you treat nisse right. If you are nisses friend. Then nisse will stand with you, against the trolls and all the others. And he will protect you.

Nisse looks like this


Nisse is a tomte.

You can't move from the nisse either, you're stuck with him forever. There's a famous norwegian rhyme that goes something like this:
And the man wanted away from the nisse move
but the journey did him no good,
for high on the cart the nisse sat and laughed
"It seems like we're moving today, you and me
it seems like we're moving today, you and me"

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Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Soul Dentist posted:

That doesn't rhyme at all

It rhymes in the original norwegian version.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




In 1948 Norway passed the so called "Lex Donald". After the war paper (among other things) was rationed but a publisher company got an exemption so that they could print 40 000 copies of the first Donald Duck magazine.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Pookah posted:

Scott was a dogshit leader compared to Shackleton :colbert:

it's really funny that the bar for successful british polar expeditions is "none of the goals of the expedition are met, buy everybody survives".

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Bar Ran Dun posted:

The voyage of the Caird from Elephant Island to South Georgia is possibly the single most impression feat of seamanship in a open boat ever. They were only able to get a single digit number of cel nav sights in an Arctic voyage in bad weather and made it successfully.
Not so impressive that they ended up in a situation where they had to pull such a hail Mary though.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Bar Ran Dun posted:

The sea will kill you. The artic seas will vengefully kill you while being hauntingly beautiful.


Maybe so. It's still worth noting that Shackleton encountered norwegian whalers that told him that the pack ice was the worst it had ever been and tried to persuade him to delay the expedition. Shackleton waited a bit, got bored and then got trapped in the pack ice.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Zudgemud posted:

The real reason for it is that they would stop being dark skinned if they stuck around for long enough and stopped relying on organ meat in their diet. Because all the non white kids would die. But the latitude where it becomes really detrimental to have dark skin in terms of vitamin D deficiency is somewhere in the middle of Scandinavia if I recall correctly. However, dark skinned people are still able to survive there if they move further south during the dark winter months. And considering that they were evidently highly mobile from the archeological remains found, it makes sense for them to have lived there too.

Do you think that Norwegians with dark skin migrates to the south in the winter like loving birds?

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Nessus posted:

I think the theory overlooks the prospect of dietary sources of vitamin D

I think the theory overlooks that there's no mass death of people with dark skin in Northern Europe every winter.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




In 1673 a convent in the italina city Reggio burned down. The church investigated it and it turns out that the responsible was Giovanna Monsolino and her sister Anna. they were fed up with being nuns and held a vote about weather or not they should burn it down. As it turns out the majority agreed with the sisters and set the convent on fire.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Offler posted:

Well over a century after the Reformation, it was decided to send a ship to the Greenland settlement to inform them they were no longer catholic. When the ship arrived, they found no Scandinavians to share this news with as the settlement had died out, and if any of the Scandis had survived their descendants were living among the Inuit now.

And then thousands died of the diseases that they brought with them.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




The epidemic was just apocalyptic. 4000 of a population of 12 000 died of smallpox. It was so bad that even the bishop, Hans Egede, realized that he had hosed up. He wrote that he believed he had come with salvation but that in reality all he had brought was death and destruction.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Samovar posted:

Was his response something along the lines of him giving up his position and critiquing the institutions that established this authority? ...or did he somehow managed to rationalize him keeping his power and not letting this rampant death toll effect him?

What does your heart tell you?

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




After feeling bad about it for a while he started to educate new missionaries he could send to Greenland.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




venus de lmao posted:

A lot of linguistics terminology is still German, like Urheimat, Sprachraum, ablaut, umlaut, abstand and ausbau language, etc

There's also "loanword", a word borrowed from a foreign language. "Loanword" itself is not a loanword, but a calque, a verbatim translation of the German Lehnwort.

"Loanword" is a calque and "calque" is a loanword, which I quite like.

There's a city in Norway that had so many germans working in the mines that people started to give the streets german name. All the mines were given german names. Even the word for director of the mines was german, "berghauptmann". The first norwegian to become berghauptmann in 1758 even changed his name from Mikkel Hellesen to the more german sounding Michael Heltzen.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




You also see it in Lord of the Rings. Eisen is an old german word for iron and gard means fence. So Isengard, where Saruman lives, means Iron Fence.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Carthag Tuek posted:

Huh, right, we still have gærde in Danish, and the expression springe over hvor gærdet er lavest = "jump the fence where it's lowest", to do something in the easiest (and possibly incomplete/incorrect) manner. Didn't realize that was the same orgin as gård (though it's kinda obvious now...)
"Gjerde" is commonly used in Norway. We also have words like "tanngard", a fence made of teeth and "manngard", a wall made of men.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Jezza of OZPOS posted:

It certainly doesn't have to be institutional to be endemic, one set of great grandparents changed their name from MacGregor to an anglicized name BC apparently community mistrust of Scots was a thing in interwar Australia for some reason?

In 1603 it actually became punishable by death to bear the name MacGregor in Scotland. They were known for raiding on other clans' land. And in 1603 the conflict became so heated that they fought a battle with clan Colquhoun and after that King James banned the clan.

Biplane posted:

I have a fairly standard first name and two last names, one of which is spanish and consists of two words, and one of THOSE has one of these ó in it. At some point the norwegian government added a hyphen somewhere in there, exactly where depends on which government agency you ask. And my sister somehow misspelled her own name enough times on official forms that the government just quietly changed her messed up norwegianlastname-spanishlastname to something wildly different from everyone else yet still hard to get right.
Norwegian name laws are fun. For example: a surname that is used by less than 200 people is considered a protected surname. So if you want to change your own surname to a protected surname you have to ask each person with that name for permission.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




venus de lmao posted:

it's pronounced "ng"

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Hippocrass posted:

We have a grand total of six examples of William Shakespeare's signature and he never spells his own name the same way twice.

Speaking of Shakespeare, radar scans of his grave suggests that his skull is missing, probably stolen. Turns out the people who wrote this on his grave wasn't paranoid:“Good friend, for Jesus’ sake forbear, / To dig the dust enclosed here. / Blessed be the man that spares these stones, / And cursed be he that moves my bones.”

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




canyoneer posted:

Edward Norton is a descendant of Pocahontas.

Jackie Kennedy was a descendant of a dutch pirate

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Pookah posted:

No dancing? That's so bizarre, I though Germany was mostly secular these days.

They still love to ban things though.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Pookah posted:

Just to add to this, she was surprisingly tiny

At the end of her life she was wider than she was tall.

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Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Some funny viking nicknames:
Øystein "The Little Maiden" Øysteinsson
Ragnvald oval office
Semen-Bjalfi
Kolbein Butterpenis
Herjolf Shrunken Testicles
Torolf the Sexslave
Skage Dung Advisor
rear end-Bård

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