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System Metternich posted:

And when his son, the later Frederick the Great, tried to escape his father's madness together with a friend, Hand Hermann von Katte (who may or may not have been his lover)

lol frederick was gay as hell son, nothing wrong with that

so was eugene of savoy, the best general nobody's ever heard of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Eugene_of_Savoy#Private_life_and_death

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Red Bones posted:

"a sort of pope" of the Shinto religion

To be fair, that's a pretty good one-sentence description of a Japanese emperor

# ¿ Dec 16, 2015 00:54

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SeanBeansShako posted:

If you want to hurt yourself internally, read people debating history in video game forums. Go on. Do it. It is a good pain.

# ¿ Dec 21, 2015 16:01

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Nessus posted:

While they were certainly less sanitary than the apparent world average, I thought the middle aged Europeans did, like, wash their hands and faces pretty regularly and would scrub up, change clothes, and so on fairly regularly. They weren't making GBS threads in their own pants 24/7 or anything.

that's the middle ages, the dudes who met the aztecs were early modern. and few cultures in history have been grosser than 16th/17th century western europeans

# ¿ Jan 23, 2016 06:52

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Vindolanda posted:

Not that you're wrong, but Lord Nelson was a pretty famously small and frail man, that's part of why his being such a brave and fighty captain was remarked upon so much - when a 5 foot 5 balding waiflike invalid is leading you from your ship, across one French first-rate, and capturing another that came to help it, it's more impressive than the same jolly impressive thing being done by a great roaring port and beef fed gorilla of a John Bull.

Frederick the Great was about that tiny, and about that brave

# ¿ Jan 30, 2016 18:49

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goose fleet posted:

Ever wondered what Calvin Coolidge sounded like? This is the first recording (with video) of an American president: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5puwTrLRhmw

Also literally everyone and everything involved with this video is long dead

This is Bismarck and Helmuth von Moltke, talking into the new weird thing that Edison invented. They're kind of self-conscious, like old men making their first selfie.
Link at the bottom of this article:
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5881146/the-only-known-recording-of-otto-von-bismarcks-voice-has-been-discovered
Here's some background, etc.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/31/science/bismarcks-voice-among-restored-edison-recordings.html

Von Moltke was 89--born in 1800 and talking into a phonograph horn and now you can hear him on the Internet.

# ¿ Jan 30, 2016 21:45

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Jaramin posted:

Pigs love their own filth, carry poo poo loads of awful parasites, and love to dig up and ruin crop fields. They also revert to violent wildlife pretty quick.

They are perfectly willing to attack and eat you, and they're not only mean they're smart enough to give that teeth

# ¿ Feb 1, 2016 22:17

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the only difference between a military sword and a civilian sword, prior to the 18th century, is that the first one is carried by a soldier, hand
to
heart

# ¿ Feb 27, 2016 23:42

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about proto-rapiers? yes i am. you're not going to be able to sword a guy in plate armor anyway and most soldiers wore civilian clothing
this is tilly's sword, it's a closeup of the handle but you can definitely see the blade

# ¿ Feb 28, 2016 07:01

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System Metternich posted:

Nice to see that the PYF Historical Fun Fact thread is indeed full of history-minded people who would happily recognise their personal feelings about a patricular religious practice as irrelevant regarding the matter to take a closer look at how the practice came to be and by what school of thoughts it was inspired.

Oh wait no, just a bunch of assholes throwing verbal abuse at some dude who afaik isn't even wiccan, lol

he's not a wiccan, he's just defending them

Control Volume posted:

it's atheists trying to accuse someone of being smug, in the twist of the century

system metternich is as atheist as tias is wiccan

# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 05:27

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ArchangeI posted:

Oh, I am very much a regular in that thread. And Schutze would inevitably lose in the fight against Julius Caesar von Breitenbach.

hey. HEY.

Quirinus Landgraff

And then there are the guys who are somewhat to the east of Most German Name Ever, like my friend and yours, Vratislav Eusebius von Pernstein

edit: I found a Zdekno von Waldstejn in a muster roll once

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# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 05:29

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System Metternich posted:

* the proper translation would be "she didn't even know what hit her", but I felt that this would be too informal

that would not have been my choice--despite their love of pompous ritual, in my experience the people i read write much more informally than they will later, like a general telling the Emperor after a successful battle that God's "given me the luck to hit [my enemy] on the head."

# ¿ Aug 6, 2016 09:54

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Snapchat A Titty posted:

Came across this at the archives the other day. It's a 1526 legal document, I guess the ink was poisonous to whatever was eating the paper? Maybe contained lead?

Nothing was eating the paper I think, that looks like normal wear/decay to me rather than insect activity, which has sharper edges and definite "paths"--wormy paper has the same tracks as wormy wood.

Black ink does not contain lead, it's made out of iron and oak galls; the iron and tannin in the ink doesn't tint the surface of the paper like other inks do but actually eats into the paper. It's black or blackish grey when you use it but in time will rust to brown, because of the iron.

# ¿ Oct 22, 2016 12:08

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Khazar-khum posted:

Most paper contains acids of some kind.

Except that cellulose generates acid when it ages, the real problem is paper made after the nineteenth century, when wood pulp paper was invented. That paper was made from cotton or linen rag pulp and, if kept out of sunlight, will be more OK than paper from the 1950s.

# ¿ Oct 22, 2016 19:36

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Deteriorata posted:

That actually probably comes from monks taking Exodus 20:4 rather literally: "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below."

Thus making images of real things was forbidden, so they made up fantastical cartoon creatures to illustrate their manuscripts - most of which would have been recognizable as representing real characters to the people at the time.

?????
Medieval illustrations are full of real people and things, what the heck is this

# ¿ Oct 25, 2016 19:38

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Hogge Wild posted:

bicameralism is utter bullshit

odysseus lied all the time

# ¿ Oct 31, 2016 21:12

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canyoneer posted:

Nice over the shoulder pose, so they can show off their butts, racks, and face at the same time

it was to show off your body, but that pose those guys are doing is also a specific thing to this culture/time, which denotes manliness and martial power. read this article for more
http://www.rug.nl/research/portal/files/3346046/BremmerH5.pdf

# ¿ Nov 5, 2016 15:47

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Agean90 posted:

hes wearing heels lol

hell yes he is

# ¿ Nov 5, 2016 16:09

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Johnny Aztec posted:

Heels were made for men, to show off their calves.

which is the sexiest part of a man :16thand17thcenturysay:

# ¿ Nov 5, 2016 16:31

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fencing and 17th c dancing is also fantastic for your calves

# ¿ Nov 5, 2016 18:08

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System Metternich posted:

The stuff I personally work with is for the most part post-1670, and there they write "und" (sometimes also "undt" or "unndt") instead.

interesting how you can see the spelling change on the way to our spelling: most of my poo poo is from the '20s and the german speakers there write vnndt exclusively

# ¿ Dec 1, 2016 12:35

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chitoryu12 posted:

The boy in this portrait from 1665 is wearing petticoat breeches. That's not a skirt, just excessively wide-legged shorts.

Do you see those little eyelets in his jacket, all in a row at the waist? You hold your pants up by lacing or hooking them to your jacket and his pants aren't attached. So for the period this is also deliberately disheveled.

# ¿ Dec 6, 2016 10:30

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System Metternich posted:

When you see a church titled “Our Lady of Victory“ (there's one in NYC, for example), then it still preserves the original name of the feast.

not necessarily, Maria Vom Siege in vienna is about the Battle of White Mountain

# ¿ Dec 6, 2016 10:49

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Khazar-khum posted:

The wild mess of ribbons at the wait represent those ties. It's just like how the ribbon bow at the center front of a bra represents the place where girls tied in their busks for their corsets.

They do not; that's ribbon trim/ribbon loop trim. It's also on his pants, hat, sleeves, and cloak. And considering the size of those eyelets his pants are probably kept up with little hooks anyway.

Thirty years earlier having the laces/ribbons that held your pants up was also popular,

(1630s)
but this isn't that.

https://thepragmaticcostumer.wordpress.com/2013/05/17/unique-embellishments-and-passementerie-through-the-centuries-17th-century-swag/

# ¿ Dec 6, 2016 11:06

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System Metternich posted:

Huh, you're right. It's a Coptic church now anyway, and I doubt that they bothered with retaining the old name and keeping alive the memory of the Thirty Years War

there's also Mariahilfer Kirche in vienna, on Mariahilfer Strasse, which are named for the same fight. the 30yw will always be with you

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# ¿ Dec 6, 2016 12:05

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Khazar-khum posted:

17th & 18th c porn is glorious. There was an amazing amount published, which has raised the question of just how literate the general populace was. When you consider that anyone of the merchant classes would need to be able to read and write, along with reeves & clerics, and you see that the market was quite substantial.

A street in London. JOHN MILTON, center stage

MILTON: Finally, I get to teach a whole lesson all by myself. And I'm going to teach something relevant, something modern. The printing press!

The printing press is really really great

SAMUEL PEPYS, sticking his head out an upstairs window: FOR PORN

MILTON, looking discomfited: It prints real quick so you don't have to wait

PEPYS: FOR PORN

MILTON: You can go down to St Paul's

PEPYS: FOR PORN

MILTON: In God's greatest cathedrals

PEPYS: FOR PORN

MILTON: And there the masses line up to be enthralled

PEPYS: BY PORN

MILTON: Hey!

PEPYS: THE PRINTING PRESS IS FOR PORN

MILTON: Samuel!

PEPYS: THE PRINTING PRESS IS FOR PORN

MILTON: No!

PEPYS: CRACK A BOOK AND TAKE A LOOK AT PORN, PORN, POOOOOOOOORN

# ¿ Dec 13, 2016 18:51

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they were probably pictures made by women of women, especially since the way they look is like how it would look if you looked down at yourself
:nws:

http://s1259.photobucket.com/user/deeallen1982/media/2545386a-b1d3-4c7a-b4ee-b0383e9f19de_zpszw8c58ll.png.html :nws:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2744349?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

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# ¿ Dec 13, 2016 19:07

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System Metternich posted:

This wasn't seen as being too bad; the prince-elector of Saxony encouraged Frederick to “fulfill your desires“ at a time where it already was common knowledge that he preferred men in that regard, for example.

at Augustus the Strong tho

# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 14:28

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Agean90 posted:

Excellent points.

I'm still saying Freddy the G is gay though, him and on again off again "close friend" voltaire

he and voltaire had a falling out when frederick discovered voltaire had also become "close friends" with his sister, at least once

# ¿ Dec 16, 2016 20:03

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# ¿ May 8, 2024 02:34

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the painter used the line breaks they did because they're center-justifying, you see the same things on texts. it looks good.

# ¿ Mar 17, 2017 22:01

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