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study what you want and worry about job and the likes later. im a high school teacher and this is what i tell my students. please understand that most jobs and traineeships don't actually require a specific degree. they just want to see an MA degree or higher to demonstrate you can think. universities are not job-factories, you don't learn how to do a job at university.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 19:58 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 06:13 |
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also im sad that americans have to consider jobs when they want to study something, since in the civilized world universities are free or tuiton is low so that it doesn't really matter what you study, since you wont be in debt anyway.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2015 20:01 |
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letting high school kids choose a "career" is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. if you think they know nothing about academia, get this: they know even less about real life jobs.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2015 22:56 |
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also, I have literally never met anyone with a postgraduate degree who was flipping burgers or something like that. and most of the graduates I know have degrees in the most "unmarketable" fields available, like literature, linguistics, philosophy. guess what, they all have normal jobs making normal wages. most of them have nothing to do with their fields of course, but this is true of most fields. you are absolutely deluded if you think someone with a postgraduate degree has to struggle in life unless they choose to do so. do understand that I'm coming from a European context, where studying does not load you with debt.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2015 23:03 |
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my five closest friends with philosophy degrees, all early thirties: One is a journalist at a major newspaper One works as a policy advisor for the department of environment One works for Shell (this is the big sellout boo) One is finishing a paid traineeship in public policy at various Dutch state departments One works at an independent publisher reading cool books all day and getting paid for it. all really enjoy their work which is full of cool people and are happy they don't work in a corporate environment and/or being surrounded by engineers. except the shell one I guess, but he gets to travel around the world 1st class so that's also cool.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2015 14:50 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 06:13 |
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inward and outward posted:So ten years after college they have all found adult jobs. I didn't say anything about how long they have had their jobs? Anyway, i don't know anyone who left university before 25. it's pretty much standard to remain at uni for 6+ years in Holland and the 10th year student is a common sight, although now much less so than 20 years ago because the government decided to cut back student allowances. the state used to give you free money as a student indefinitely, now it's 3-4 years for a BA and 1-2 years for an MA so students tend to finish earlier.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2015 18:11 |