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HookShot posted:it's explaining completely obvious poo poo to the audience. ZZZorcerer posted:I like this adaptation take on Watson HookShot posted:Elementary is way worse than any other that I watch, and I watch The Blacklist, which is objectively The Worst Show on TV Right Now.
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Tiggum posted:That's really just a hazard of the genre. The best writers make it look like a magic trick, leaving the audience utterly confused until the reveal when everything falls into place. Less good writers have to explain stuff along the way, and since you can't address the audience directly you have to have one character explain things to another that they should already understand. The blacklist is an incredibly bad show that basically exists as a vehicle for James Spader to be smug on a tv screen, far worse than arrow which is still a good show. It can't be the worst thing on TV in a Universe where Scorpion exists and keeps getting renewed though.
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This show is pretty twisty and it's not uncommon for people to ask for clarifications here, in this thread. I normally get it but I've gone back to re-watch scenes before (thanks, iTunes!) Watson is still intelligent and capable, and part of what I like about Elementary versus Sherlock is that the characters actually have to communicate what they're thinking. It's been a long time since Moriarty, they played this one really well. Long game indeed  .
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Tiggum posted:That's really just a hazard of the genre. The best writers make it look like a magic trick, leaving the audience utterly confused until the reveal when everything falls into place. Less good writers have to explain stuff along the way, and since you can't address the audience directly you have to have one character explain things to another that they should already understand. Like, don't get me wrong, I know exactly that this is how TV shows work, especially procedurals, but Elementary does it way, way more, and much more obviously (which comes off as bad writing) than other shows. Even while watching procedurals that are entertaining but not that good, and definitely worse than Elementary, like Hawaii Five-0, they aren't nearly as obvious about the fact that they're just openly explaining to the audience what just happened. quote:I find that hard to believe. I haven't watched much of The Blacklist, but it's worse than Arrow? Worse than The Vampire Diaries? The Lord Bude posted:The blacklist is an incredibly bad show that basically exists as a vehicle for James Spader to be smug on a tv screen, far worse than arrow which is still a good show. It can't be the worst thing on TV in a Universe where Scorpion exists and keeps getting renewed though.
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Apr 25, 2016 18:56
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Maera Sior posted:Anyone else jump to Moriarty as soon as we got to the "Bomb a meeting, profit off stocks" plot? Yap. My dream Moriarty vs Morland showdown might happen  then Sherlock has to choose between them 
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Apr 25, 2016 19:23
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Moriarty and Morland get married :iamafag:.
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Maera Sior posted:Anyone else jump to Moriarty as soon as we got to the "Bomb a meeting, profit off stocks" plot? Yeah, but I was thinking that was too obvious for a while because it's an almost exact retread of the end of Season 1. .....Totally worth it, though.
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I think watching a show about Sherlock Holmes and complaining about smug exposition is kind of like watching an MMA pay per view and complaining that they keep hitting each other.
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Tiggum posted:That's really just a hazard of the genre. The best writers make it look like a magic trick, leaving the audience utterly confused until the reveal when everything falls into place. Less good writers have to explain stuff along the way, and since you can't address the audience directly you have to have one character explain things to another that they should already understand. It went from B-grade television puffed up by James Spader's Spadering to In Which James Spader Receives A Regular Paycheck. After the writing hit -- Keen: "Red's been shot!" Man #1: "Getting shot's bad!" -- levels of quality, I bailed. It's unwatchable.
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The only reason to watch Blacklist is those scenes where Red tells a folksy anecdote to someone he's either about to a) brutally murder or b) explain his brilliant plan to offscreen. That's it. Everything else is garbage.
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Maera Sior posted:Anyone else jump to Moriarty as soon as we got to the "Bomb a meeting, profit off stocks" plot? I jumped there as soon as they gave Game of Thrones a shout. Figured that was the price for getting an episode out of Natalie Dormer. The plot is very similar to the Macedonian currency scam from S1, but I really only care about Moriarty interacting with Sherlock, Joan, and Morland.
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Maera Sior posted:Anyone else jump to Moriarty as soon as we got to the "Bomb a meeting, profit off stocks" plot? Yep. That was my first thought as well.
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Not as dumb as the show where a ferrari had to drive really fast below a low flying plane so that people in the plane could pass an ethernet cable down to a woman with a laptop in the Ferrari so they could unhack the plane while the plane and the ferrari were running along tethered by ethernet cable. This happened in the pilot, and every successive episode got worse from there until I quit by episode 5. The Lord Bude fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Apr 26, 2016 |
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The Lord Bude posted:Not as dumb as the show where a ferrari had to drive really fast below a low flying plane so that people in the plane could pass an ethernet cable down to a woman with a laptop in the Ferrari so they could unhack the plane while the plane and the ferrari were running along tethered by ethernet cable. Holy poo poo.
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thrawn527 posted:Holy poo poo.
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The Lord Bude posted:Not as dumb as the show where a ferrari had to drive really fast below a low flying plane so that people in the plane could pass an ethernet cable down to a woman with a laptop in the Ferrari so they could unhack the plane while the plane and the ferrari were running along tethered by ethernet cable. I need to see this.
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The Lord Bude posted:Not as dumb as the show where a ferrari had to drive really fast below a low flying plane so that people in the plane could pass an ethernet cable down to a woman with a laptop in the Ferrari so they could unhack the plane while the plane and the ferrari were running along tethered by ethernet cable. Well, yeah, of course it's going to get worse from there.
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darthbob88 posted:No, seriously, that happened. Oh I didn't doubt it. But my post still stands.
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The Lord Bude posted:Not as dumb as the show where a ferrari had to drive really fast below a low flying plane so that people in the plane could pass an ethernet cable down to a woman with a laptop in the Ferrari so they could unhack the plane while the plane and the ferrari were running along tethered by ethernet cable. I watched that pilot and I still cannot believe that show got a season 2.
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HookShot posted:I need to see this. darthbob88 posted:Here's the scene in question, if it helps, and I was mistaken, they pace the airliner in a Ferrari, not a Mustang. Also, you see the young lady riding shotgun? She's a waitress, who got shanghaied onto the team in the pilot because they need somebody to translate between normal people and the supergeniuses, she needs somebody to help her deal with her autistic genius son, and the show needs a romantic subplot. I do not have enough pizza and beer to enjoy this show, but if you do, have fun.
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darthbob88 posted:If you insist. From a post elsewhere on how stupid the show was. It was actually in the link you posted above. But the inline video works, too.
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:I watched that pilot and I still cannot believe that show got a season 2. It was actually iirc the top rated show on the network, or very close. It's been renewed for 3. That really says something about humanity.
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The Lord Bude posted:It was actually iirc the top rated show on the network, or very close. It's been renewed for 3. That really says something about humanity. gently caress it. Trump 2016. Let's get this poo poo over with.
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darthbob88 posted:If you insist. From a post elsewhere on how stupid the show was. This is the most amazing thing I have ever seen. I was expecting it to be like a Cessna or something not a 74-loving-7. The Lord Bude posted:It was actually iirc the top rated show on the network, or very close. It's been renewed for 3. That really says something about humanity. Yeah, the Blacklist is also super popular for some dumb reason.
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The Queens Zoo does too have mountain lions what the gently caress show Unless Joan got confused and didn't know that a puma is the same thing  (Sorry I got behind and just now caught up on the latest episode)
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Yeah, also taxidermists get the skins post-tanning, which removes the compounds that makes animals allergenic. Hair, on its own, is keratinous and could not be allergenic on the species level. A tannery would actually have made a lot more sense. hire me on the show 
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So... mostly a setup episode. I get the shift to a new snake's head but it's hard to get that motivated by that person.
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The bomb at the end is one of the stupidest cliffhangers I've seen.
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Maera Sior posted:The bomb at the end is one of the stupidest cliffhangers I've seen. You've never seen a ticking time bomb as a cliffhanger before?
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InfiniteZero posted:You've never seen a ticking time bomb as a cliffhanger before? I have, but it's particularly tone-deaf for this show.
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Yeah, that ending was weaksauce. Unless they both get blown up next week, that'll make two episodes in a row where the cliffhanger is dismissed in the first minute of the next episode. I really hated the beginning of this week's episode too, btw. The middle was ok, and the new guy being Moriarty's baby daddy was at least a good call back to that weird S2 episode. She'll probably still make an appearance by the end of the season.
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They're not going to get blown up. The person watching their place doesn't know they're there because they went in the backdoor. Sherlock will either try to disarm it or they'll just head back out the backdoor and maybe try to get the drop on the occupied apartment.
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May 3, 2016 00:19
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Oh poo poo, it's Datak Tarr
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Oh poo poo, it's Datak Tarr No, it's Van Gogh.
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GreenNight posted:No, it's Van Gogh. Apparently he's played Van Gogh, but when I saw that guy I was like "dude loving looks like Van Gogh." Huh!
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Oh poo poo, it's Datak Tarr gently caress, thought he looked familiar.
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Oz posted:They're not going to get blown up.
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I hope not, they spent all that effort getting their neighbor to move back in again.
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RoboCicero posted:I hope not, they spent all that effort getting their neighbor to move back in again. Also Clyde
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bobkatt013 posted:Also Clyde Oh poo poo 
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