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Jeedy Jay posted:Defeat DOES halve your money, but fallen players leave behind a coin that contains that very same value. If the other player is around, he can scoop it up. Namingway posted:In the original, this is true, but if you're playing the Wii or Wii U download version, they changed this for whatever reason. armoredgorilla posted:Fun fact: The different gang member sprites all have different stats that raise accordingly in power depending the gang they're in. Like there's one guy who kicks the hardest, one with the highest defense, one who punches hardest, etc. Lizard Wizard posted:I recall playing a translated Kunio-kun game that was basically River City Ransom, but in medieval Japan, with the justification being that they were performing a period piece. Any chance you guys could take a look at that in the future? Choco1980 posted:I've recently discovered it myself, it's called Downtown Special for whatever reasons. It's basically a main sequel mechanically to this game. There's a LOT more platforming in it, but it works basically the same.
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crab avatar posted:Noted. The only part of this I noticed apart from randomly getting killed by one gang or the other is that some of them defend like crazy. Like in one episode we spent like 3 minutes getting past the first screen and in another run we killed everyone in 40 seconds. Maybe they're the punchy gang. So I guess these stats are randomized each time both players respawn in town? Each time you enter an area it says "the <gang>'s turf" at the bottom. Sometimes that line is missing and the area will be unoccupied. Each gang has different characteristics, and each "member" has another unique characteristic on top of that. I didn't know about the second part until I read the post you're responding too though. moller fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Nov 13, 2015 |
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Nov 13, 2015 12:52
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crab avatar posted:This is weird though. We do kill each other a lot but I don't seem to ever see the dead player dropping a coin...? We're playing the NES version. I've never played the NES version of RCR but I might hazard a guess that it's only a thing on Normal and not Advanced...?
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Nov 13, 2015 14:18
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Son Ryo posted:I've never played the NES version of RCR but I might hazard a guess that it's only a thing on Normal and not Advanced...? That or there's more than one version of the NES cart. My friend and I sat down to play the Wii version for nostalgia purposes, and we were both disappointed that the other player didn't drop money like in the NES version we played. That combined with a few other vivid childhood memories of stealing each other's money with different friends makes me believe that the money dropping is real and that I am not crazy. Probably.
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Nov 13, 2015 20:00
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I could've sworn money dropped on player death in the version we played, if only because I remember pit deaths being ~extra bad~ since there was no coin to recover.
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Nov 13, 2015 20:22
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This is one of those Berenstein/Berenstain Bears things.
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Nov 13, 2015 20:58
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moller posted:Each time you enter an area it says "the <gang>'s turf" at the bottom. Sometimes that line is missing and the area will be unoccupied. Each gang has different characteristics, and each "member" has another unique characteristic on top of that. I didn't know about the second part until I read the post you're responding too though. quote:Player coin drop? Versions?  The next video is out in a little bit!
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Nov 14, 2015 20:39
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Some quick investigating makes me believe I am correct in that the players do NOT drop money. An odd trick apparently though is if the other player leaves the area before the "X has lost all their power" message finishes typing out, the money doesn't go halve for them. One of the two reasons that slow message speeds can help. The other being that bosses don't start attacking until after they've finished talking if you leave them alone, giving you a prime moment to get the drop on them.
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Nov 14, 2015 21:07
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 Part 5: OOP- I KILLED YOU edit: "I guess Stamina is the HP?" "Is it?" -- #BADATGAMES, 60 minutes into a game. crab avatar fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Nov 14, 2015 |
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Nov 14, 2015 23:24
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 I think you guys are definitely getting #betteratgames. It is kind of a bitch though that the game always starts you back at the school, though I don't really remember how large the game world is or if there is anything that really stops you barreling through screens.
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Nov 15, 2015 03:11
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They've seen more than half of it and there isn't.
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Nov 15, 2015 03:12
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Lizard Wizard posted:They've seen more than half of it and there isn't. Technically. If they were REALLY halfway, they'd have beaten a bunch of bosses instead of one. They're all over the place, and there's only a couple points where you need to backtrack at all I want to say. Also, there's basically a point of no return later in the game (you'll know it when you see it.) I think the passwords save all your progress EXCEPT where you are physically in the game (stats, inventory, bosses beaten) so that's the one way around the "no return" point if you screw up. Too bad they're such AWFUL passwords. Also, I hope these guys don't end up overlooking the one special shop I always make it a policy to visit every time I play this game. 
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Nov 15, 2015 03:27
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Choco1980 posted:Technically. If they were REALLY halfway, they'd have beaten a bunch of bosses instead of one. They're all over the place, and there's only a couple points where you need to backtrack at all I want to say. Also, there's basically a point of no return later in the game (you'll know it when you see it.) I thought you meant the magic shop, but nope - you're just in it for 8-bit butt dimples.
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Niggurath posted:
Choco1980 posted:I think the passwords save all your progress EXCEPT where you are physically in the game (stats, inventory, bosses beaten)
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Nov 15, 2015 22:55
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Well the thing is is you can fight bosses as many times as you want to (before the last one, that ends the game). Recall they give good money too. When you go for "rematches" their dialogue at the bottom of the screen even changes, reflecting that you've already kicked their rear end, saying things like "What? Again?!" The final "gang" of bosses don't appear until you've beaten all the bosses up to a certain point, and one or two of them require backtracking iirc. They wear dark red shirts, and are tougher. I know one appears in that little park with the bathrooms early on in the progress. You have to beat all of THEM before you're allowed to fight the last boss (a good chunk of them are grouped near him at the end at least). I hope you guys stick with things to make it to the end of the game, it's the sort of NES accomplishment where you just feel good about yourself for the rest of the day. Plus, the game designers through in one small surprise before the last boss for fans of beat em ups of the time...
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Nov 15, 2015 23:33
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Choco1980 posted:I hope you guys stick with things to make it to the end of the game, it's the sort of NES accomplishment where you just feel good about yourself for the rest of the day. E: Half-Life might have been one, actually. Need to finish/restart. crab avatar fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Nov 16, 2015 |
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Nov 16, 2015 00:49
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You guys should stop dying and start eating things. Some places may even offer carryout!
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Nov 17, 2015 11:46
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Confession, I get about a hundred free smiles each time I play this game. (every once in a great while while it ups your health bar by a notch or two somehow btw. I have no idea how that works.)
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Nov 17, 2015 18:06
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When you knock them down you can usually finish them off by pitching your weapon at them. It's a handy way to speed up KOs.
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Nov 17, 2015 21:41
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moller posted:You guys should stop dying and start eating things. Some places may even offer carryout! Choco1980 posted:Confession, I get about a hundred free smiles each time I play this game. Sloober posted:When you knock them down you can usually finish them off by pitching your weapon at them. It's a handy way to speed up KOs. 
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Nov 17, 2015 22:46
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 Part 6: I AM HERE TO PUNCH
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Nov 18, 2015 23:30
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Huh, guess I was wrong about the Zombies gang of bosses only showing up if you beat all the other bosses first.
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Nov 19, 2015 01:35
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Choco1980 posted:Huh, guess I was wrong about the Zombies gang of bosses only showing up if you beat all the other bosses first.
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Nov 19, 2015 22:24
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Well, I KNOW the rest of the Zombies don't appear til after taking out Thor, but I guess I figured you had to fight the bosses that appear before him like moose and the rest too. They only appear when you defeat the rest of the gang members in that area. I suppose speaking of bosses, I'll let a specific cat out of a bag. That early bridge level that has the cut scene that scrolls super slowly the first time you go there? It has another exit on the left hand side at the back where you'll go down beneath the bridge and take on a pair of bosses simultaneously. They're kinda chumps, and I usually like to grind off them til I have good equipment from the first mall.
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Nov 19, 2015 22:50
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 Part 7: KILL ME! AAH YES!! Choco1980 posted:I suppose speaking of bosses, I'll let a specific cat out of a bag. That early bridge level that has the cut scene that scrolls super slowly the first time you go there? It has another exit on the left hand side at the back where you'll go down beneath the bridge and take on a pair of bosses simultaneously. They're kinda chumps, and I usually like to grind off them til I have good equipment from the first mall.
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Will Power is an interesting stat - basically, it's reserve Stamina. If you suffer a fatal blow and have any Will Power, it gets transferred to your Stamina. Bit of a second wind, I guess?
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Nov 22, 2015 01:17
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yeah. When a guy gets up panting sometimes, he's transfering will power to stamina. You don't have control over when it's used, but that's how it works. Also, I'm SOO disappointed that the sauna was never used. Incidentally, River City High is where the end game is. If you beat all the Zombies, the gates open up and you go inside. The "point of no return" I've mentioned is the beginning of the factory. There's no way back up to the entrance physically. If you need to back track, looks like you're in password town. Also if it helps, those two bosses under the bridge, and that little park with the bathrooms you already found are the only non-linear paths. Everything else is just one entrance, one exit. The weird non-imported sequel that takes place in Edo times is not at all like this, and is a nightmare to navigate.
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Choco1980 posted:Incidentally, River City High is where the end game is. If you beat all the Zombies, the gates open up and you go inside. The "point of no return" I've mentioned is the beginning of the factory. There's no way back up to the entrance physically. If you need to back track, looks like you're in password town. Actually, you can backtrack by dying in the first room of the factory.
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Huh? You can totally jump from the lower floor of the factory up to the upper floor. I'm certain I've seen it done, and I'm pretty sure I've even done it myself.
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crab avatar posted:Of course! All this time spent playing and we didn't even scan all the buttons on the NES: "A", "B", "START", "SELECT", and "SURVIVE". I dug out my NES from a closet and hooked it to my panel TV and played a game of RCR on Advanced. Advanced is bullshit. EDIT: Still: Don't die. Dying is bad. Backtrack to a mall rather than dying.
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Lizard Wizard posted:Will Power is an interesting stat - basically, it's reserve Stamina. If you suffer a fatal blow and have any Will Power, it gets transferred to your Stamina. Bit of a second wind, I guess? Choco1980 posted:yeah. When a guy gets up panting sometimes, he's transfering will power to stamina. You don't have control over when it's used, but that's how it works. moller posted:I dug out my NES from a closet and hooked it to my panel TV and played a game of RCR on Advanced.
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 Part 8: THANKS FOR THE BAT, IDIOT
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The bubblegum quote is from THEY LIVE you poltroons. Also yeah, you're getting better as you go for sure. Grinding is the slow part of this game, but once you get abilities your game will go much easier (for fun, one of you grab stone hands and the other dragon feet. They do basically the same thing but one's for punching the other for kicking). I might soon have to start up a new game just from watching you guys for so long. What would be a tough challenge for me would be to maybe try to buy one of each item in the game? There's a secret shop we've been coy about with you guys that's SUPER expensive that might make that hard. I'd still like to see if you guys can discover the door to it on accident. It's invisible, and in an area with enemies in it.
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I know you record these in advance, but as a heads up, money dropped is based on the gang that shows up, not the zone. For the gangs you've encountered, it's something like Generic Dudes < Frat Guys < Home Boys < Jocks < Mob
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I decided to take up my shopping challenge and play through and buy literally every purchase in the game. After some grinding I pulled it off in the first town. Here's my stats prior to buying the books, which don't change your stats but instead give you abilities, because that's the long grind (with handy Ryan baseline on the default status screen). As you can see, kicking doesn't go up at all in the first town. I found that if you're just looking to heal, the coffee shop and the rolls menu in the sushi house are the best bet. They're cheap, and they raise stamina and max power a lot. A few of the drinks even raise some of your fighting stats too.
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Choco1980 posted:I decided to take up my shopping challenge and play through and buy literally every purchase in the game. After some grinding I pulled it off in the first town. Here's my stats prior to buying the books, which don't change your stats but instead give you abilities, because that's the long grind (with handy Ryan baseline on the default status screen). If I recall correctly, the big boosts to kicking come only from buying shoes. It's think there are a mere handful of foods that give kicking, and none give more than one point.
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Choco1980 posted:I found that if you're just looking to heal, the coffee shop and the rolls menu in the sushi house are the best bet. They're cheap, and they raise stamina and max power a lot. A few of the drinks even raise some of your fighting stats too. Yeah, I was just about to say that. The coffee shop definitely has the best value for healing items.
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Yeah, looking over the shop lists, the game really seems to want to encourage you to rely on your fists more than anything. As I haven't bought any books yet, I've been relying on weapons. The chain has the longest reach, but the tire seems to have the largest around hit box, making it easier to deflect thrown weapons with.
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For healing I always relied on the drug store. Everything but the cheapest item restores tons of stamina and they're all portable. Field healing is way more efficient than having to dash back to town under threat of death. That's also why I recommend getting carryout earlier in the thread. The first town has a hamburger shop or something?
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Merv's isn't til town two. Town 1's tiny all things considered. A coffee shop, a donut shop (where the takeout is) the sushi place, and the book store.
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