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DarkCrawler posted:Internal border controls alone mean that in the end the border countries are the only ones left with the responsibility, and that is where this whole poo poo began from. That's what the burden sharing mechanism was supposed to solve, but as long as the outer borders are not under control it'll never work. As proven by the fact that out of the agreed initial batch of 100 000+ only ~150 have been moved so far, because all the recipient countries are too busy worrying about their own borders to give a poo poo.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2015 15:30 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 20:40 |
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*deploys rapidly to sotilaskoti for some munkki*
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2015 13:50 |
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He's talking about changing laws to allow rejecting asylum from convicted criminals, which is A Good Thing. Currently crimes committed after arriving to Finland have no effect at all on the asylum decision.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2015 14:58 |
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Antti posted:There's no such escape clause in the legit asylum section for crimes committed in Finland, but these two particular guys were never going to qualify for actual asylum, which is available if you are personally persecuted for your political views or sexual orientation or whatever. They're just from a shithole. Incidentally as of last month Migri started handing out way more "actual" asylums. In the case of Somalis, 32 received asylum, 1 humanitarian protection, 0 secondary protection (and 0 non-Dublin rejected), when before they were roughly 60%/40%. And this was after their new security evaluation of Somalia, which stated that there are safe counties and you can no longer receive asylum based on area of origin alone. Whether this was just a coincidence remains to be seen. (source, though they only release cumulative stats so to get October numbers you'll have to find last months release and deduct them from the latest) Double Bill fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Nov 24, 2015 |
# ¿ Nov 24, 2015 15:22 |
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Referring to a statistic no one can prove as factual is pretty dumb, hth
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2015 15:48 |
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DarkCrawler posted:You don't think it is a fact that most sexual assaults don't get reported? I thought it was pretty common knowledge, it's one of the reasons why Sweden is so weirdly high in rape statistics - they are more efficient in reporting said crimes. You can't exactly prove that less rape happens per capita in Sweden then in India but I don't think that's in question. I'm not saying unreported rapes don't happen, just that the 10% figure was pulled out of an rear end.
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2015 17:03 |
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Eiköhän sieltä ole tullut päällystöltä käsky että asia on loppuunkäsitelty. Poliisijohto on ollut viime kuukaudet täysin "Hitlerit bunkkerissa"-moodissa, eli sekavia ja ristiriitaisia ohjeistuksia ja lausuntoja samalla kun paskaa lentää tuulettimeen ympäri maata.
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2015 15:07 |
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Yes it's wrong that the police protected a registered and peaceful march from a unregistered group of violent hooligans. So terribly wrong, country ruined.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2015 14:07 |
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Also this is the only acceptable marching song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IaUXefAsCU
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2015 12:35 |
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DanTheFryingPan posted:It's over and everything is returning to normal. I bet (not-racist, not-Hitler, not-Nazi) Homma is happy again. The new normal being ~100 new asylum seekers every day. Also the real flood from Russia hasn't even started yet. Next spring is going to be "interesting", unless EU collectively does something, which it won't because it's the EU.
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2015 16:50 |
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Rexroom posted:I'd like to see the government try to send Syrian refugees back. What are they going to do, load them on a cargo plane and drop them like bombs in Syrian airspace? I'm pretty sure Syria is classified as a actual war zone by the entire EU, making them eligible for asylum? This is for the countries that are not at war, i.e. all the rest of them. e: also less than 5% of the asylum seekers coming to Finland are Syrian, making this a complete non-issue Double Bill fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Dec 8, 2015 |
# ¿ Dec 8, 2015 20:40 |
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http://www.presidentti.fi/public/default.aspx?contentid=341374&nodeid=44810&contentlan=1&culture=fi-FI Oh no what a terrible racist
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 14:07 |
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Hopefully the president will condemn the president's hate speech. And he didn't even mention the biggest threat to this country, a handful of bored white men walking in the streets.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2016 17:17 |
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You do realize he never said it was a gang rape, nor that it was reported as one, despite the use of a plural. Making an analysis piece based on a single ambiguous tweet is really dumb, but hey it's Yle.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 18:59 |
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So to the surprise of absolutely no-one AKT & co killed yhteiskuntasopimus. Now we'll see who runs
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2016 18:46 |
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Exports -10% YoY, we're so hosed
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 08:51 |
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OhYeah posted:I think even the most delusional "progressives" are not surprised anymore at this point. Tutkiskelija Sinkkonen yllättyy kerta toisensa jälkeen, kuin sylivauva joka näkee asioita ensi kertaa.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2016 10:26 |
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Soini also chose not to take a ministership that could've impacted policy that's actually important to people, and took a ceremonial prestige seat instead.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2016 15:50 |
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I do like the thought of an Audi carrying his corpse around. He worked hard for this, let his earthly remains enjoy it a bit longer.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2016 16:09 |
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Mommy-Barbarian is full of poo poo at least. The police spat on her, really? That might be something that's common in her native culture, but I've never ever heard of it happening around here. She should've come up with a better story for pity points.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2016 22:14 |
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http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/a1473645631773 aaand get ready for the great shitstorm of our age
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2016 09:50 |
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Nenonen posted:It was not premeditated, but it was clearly on purpose. You don't accidentally kick someone to the ground except on soccer field. If you do assault someone then you must take responsibility of the consequences, whatever they are. This is no different from someone punching someone at nakkikioski. Yes, the kick was on purpose but there was no expectation that the other guy might die from it. There was a kuolemantuottamus sentencing for such a case literally last week, I don't see how this could be anything else.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2016 19:21 |
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endlessmonotony posted:They're not charged with murder anyway, because the name of the crime is in Finnish, and "kuolemantuottamus", "tappo" and "murha" all can translate to "murder". Was that a joke, because murder is a pretty clearly defined word and concept in every language. Manslaughter and involuntary manslaughter are not it. If there was no proven intent to kill it's involuntary manslaughter, this isn't really up for debate or a grey area of any kind. Double Bill fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Sep 19, 2016 |
# ¿ Sep 19, 2016 20:20 |
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If recent history is any indication, the excessive publicity is actually a sentence-reducing factor.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2016 20:27 |
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Finnish courts are usually extremely unwilling to dole out murder sentences. Even cases that have had premeditation, deliberation and excessive cruelty have been judged manslaughter just because the victim died quickly. It's pretty hosed up actually.
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# ¿ Sep 19, 2016 20:35 |
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Speaking of nazis
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2016 20:15 |
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Poor Pahkasika, they don't stand a chance anymore
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2016 14:22 |
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Who the gently caress wants to spend their saturday afternoon on something like that, really
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2016 10:19 |
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I knew it, anime will save our economy
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# ¿ Sep 29, 2016 09:35 |
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quote:Videolla esiintyvää ulkomaalaistaustaista miestä epäillään 86-vuotiaan miehen taposta Helsingin Puotilassa heinäkuun lopussa. Epäilty on vangittu todennäköisin syin.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2016 17:47 |
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Eikös Arhinmäki poseeraa tuossa videossa jonkun Antifa-lipun vieressä? Väkivaltainen äärijärjestö siinä missä SVL:kin.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2016 12:59 |
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I'm assuming Ligur is talking about this: https://www.facebook.com/kirsi.kilpelainen.9/posts/695458247285612 It's Kontula though, i.e. not a place anyone should go to or live in
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2016 13:24 |
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Frozen kalapuikko is lethal
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2016 11:56 |
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PRETTY COLD HUH? The wind is a killer, my face is still numb 10 minutes after coming inside
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 18:24 |
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Mainio "tonnin seteli"-ilme
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 15:12 |
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Soini has been in a "2 days to retirement"-mode since the elections, he doesn't give a poo poo and no one gives a poo poo about him Halla-aho still has some drive left so I'd expect him to stir the pot quite a bit more
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2017 13:48 |
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Is that a parody account, I can't tell
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2017 09:38 |
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Nothing in life is certain except death and taxes and Espoon keskus being a shithole
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 12:32 |
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Kemper Boyd posted:The interesting thing is how nämä asiat nyt koetaan. This doesn't really help your argument: http://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9470881
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 00:05 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 20:40 |
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Kemper Boyd posted:Considering how poorly TF did, I think it's fair to restate the point that immigration just isn't the most important issue for most voters, despite what racists want people to believe. This is more a cautionary tale against going to government without any means or intentions of pushing through policies your voters want
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2017 07:40 |