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and this is why carbon taxes are a scam and a death sentence on the poor/third world. remember when obama told africans that they will never get to own a car or have AC because that would cause the planet to overheat? we should be trying to elevate the living standards of our fellow man and pull him up to our level not the opposite
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this is a very sad day for mankind and a large blow to our very weak democracies
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Dec 12, 2015 22:16
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You folks are so brainwashed you are litteraly begging your globalist overlords to force you to reduce your living standards and tax you into oblivion. Its disgusting how the radical far left has hijacked the green movement to push their sick and twisted authoritarian communist anti human agenda. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 14, 2015 01:28
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The problem with such a system is that on top of creating even more wealth inequality it would have to imposed by force by an authoritarian goverment. Climate justice warriors rarely take into account the actual will and desires of the people. Who the hell wants to live the life of a poor subsistence farmer who cant even get out of the ten mile radius he was born in because transportation is only for the very rich. Its like that UN guy who said humans will have to get used to eating insects!?? Hellll no im not going
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Mar 20, 2016 19:05
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wether you believe the effects of global warming would cause more harm to the human race than ending energetic freedom, i think we can all agree that carbon taxes and similar measures are a scam and a huge wealth transfer from the poorest and most vulnerable elements of our society towards mega corporations. I find it funny when people compare climate realism to cigarette companies denying the harmful effects of their products. I mean if you follow the money you would see that it is very much on the green side of things. ie: ontario privatising its hydro electrical network, jacking up its prices 6x and forbidding the use of natural gaz, all in the name of the glorious agenda 21.
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May 17, 2016 12:43
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Anos posted:The poor use less carbon than the non-poor. Carbon taxes would mainly hit the suburbs and create an incentive for industries to do things differently. Carbon taxes are regressive and would cost a much larger % of a poor persons income than of a rich individal. Also they are a litteral death sentence for the third world. They also encourage monopolies and crony dealings.
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May 17, 2016 15:17
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quote:The Google.org study found that through electric car breakthroughs as a result of investment in green tech and carbon pricing, household energy bills (electric plus transportation fuel) would decrease 53% by 2050, by approximately $950 per year. Now thats exactly what im talking about. google stands to profit immensely from electric car subsidies and carbon taxes as they are about to start selling electric self driving vehicles. dont be fooled
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May 17, 2016 17:58
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The best part about trump winning is that well finally see some opposition to the eco-tyranny being pushed by the U.N. The peoples have spoken we don't want micro apartments we dont want to live in car free cities and we dont want to eat insects. Carbon taxes are a death sentence for the third world and trump might actually save millions of lives if he manages to sabotage the Paris agreement. This is a huge step forward for humanity. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 11, 2016 16:51
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Potato Salad posted:I'm guessing, just a guess here, you are a climate change skeptic. climate change is real i just dont believe its as dangerous as the alarmists say. Basically what we should do is try to empower and enrich third world nations so that if the poo poo really hits the fan and their surroundings become unlivable, they have the means to pack up and go somewhere cooler. I live in quebec and we have 2 carbon taxes (provincial and federal) even though every year since the beginning of times we emit a negative amount of co2 in the atmosphere. Were paying out the rear end to offset american and Chinese greenhouse gazes and all the funds are squandered/gifted to huge corporations. "Climate justice" is the biggest ponzi scheme of all time. Uranium Phoenix posted:stuff all that stuff is cool and good if its being done voluntarily and without subsidies. The problem arises when you force these policies onto the masses. smoke sumthin bitch fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Nov 11, 2016 17:22
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listen bro based on your own propaganda unless we achieve massive economic degrowth and deindustrialization the world is still gonna turn into a new venus and that itself would kill a huge number of people so since were hosed either way, we might as well try to empower the people who are in the most precarious positions.
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Nov 11, 2016 18:36
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Uranium Phoenix posted:Deindustrialization is not necessary. I just talked about how one major way to combat climate change is to create jobs and build things like nuclear power plants--meaning the encouragement of industry. Neither is "degrowth" necessary. Since you seem to be assuming the only way climate change can be stopped is by causing harm, if you can't actually back up that stopping climate change will cause harm (and it doesn't have to; I just showed how solutions to climate change could be extremely beneficial), the rest of your argument isn't supported. carbon taxes are regressive and disproportionately burden the poor. anyone who is barely surviving right now will be wiped out and thats a lot of people. now you'll probably reply that this problem can be solved with wealth transfers! unfortunately knowing the U.N they would probably use that money to build more coal plants. I would be for these things if the money could be sent directly to the people and not wasted/stolen/used to finance what they pretend to be fighting.
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Nov 11, 2016 20:29
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we already have hundreds of institutions researching "climate change", it was never supposed to be NASA's mandate in the first place. Besides, it's about time the USA gets ambitious with space exploration again. Trump is taking us to alpha centauri baby! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 23, 2016 18:07
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we don't know what will happen, it could go both ways really. the thing is, a lot more people die from cold weather than from extreme heat. Considering this, coupled with the fact that global warming would greatly increase our food production potential, climate change could in fact save millions of lives.
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Dec 29, 2016 02:08
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AceOfFlames posted:No, it's not. I don't even have the energy to cook, let alone fight raiders. And why adopt a healthier lifestyle if it's to get to the fighting bit? One of the things that honestly baffles me about modern society is that people are unhappier than ever yet are obsessed with living longer. If I end up dying of a heart attack before the collapse, that's great! cheer up bro, climate change alarmism is propaganda meant to demoralize you to set up worldwide mass austerity and taxation. go read up on the climate gate scandal it's all a scam and a fraud. now go have a whole bunch of children and go smoke a ton of weed and be happy life is great
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Jan 3, 2017 03:12
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The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration got caught falsifying data ahead of COP 21 in order to push for more radical global austerity measures. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
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Feb 7, 2017 03:36
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how bout we just let people live their lives as they see fit without any authoritarian/violent government intervention
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Apr 25, 2017 14:28
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KaptainKrunk posted:this is unironically dumb and will doom the species i read this whole thread and if these guys are correct the earth is about to enter feedback loop mechanism which will heat up this bitch like a microwave and we crossed the rubicon a long rear end time ago. its already way too late to save the planet even if somehow world wide economic degrowth is imposed and deniers are genocided. I personnaly dont believe any of this but if its true then we should adopt a live and let live mantra for the time we have left on this planet
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Apr 26, 2017 12:41
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i follow and read a lot of alarmist literature and they all say weve passed the point of no return. I know and it has been proven again and again that a lot of these reports are fake science or based on rigged parameters and models. were either 100% doomed or this is all natural and the earth has mechanisms to balance its temperature out or maybe it doesn't and were still doomed. either way dont tread on me
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Apr 26, 2017 20:34
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former high level official recently blew the whistle on how the government manipulates and rigs climate data to pass liberticidal policy http://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-jo...ing_now_video_3
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Apr 28, 2017 14:21
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Once we get the proper carbon sinking technology well be able to suck all the co2 out of the atmosphere. We wont have to slow anything down or reduce emmissions. And only then will we find out if CO2 is really responsible for climate change.
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May 10, 2017 23:11
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thank god he withdrew from the paris agreement. i remember being so anxious and angry during the COP 21. The future was looking very grim. Trump was the only light at the end of the tunnel, the only glimmer of hope for a planet and its 7 billions inhabitant. He said NO to the unelected corporate banking combine and their carbon taxes (which are a loving DEATH SENTENCE for the third world) and for this he will go down in history as a great savior of mankind. MAGA you whores!!!! yall wanted him to sell your country out but he aint going! 
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May 31, 2017 14:21
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:What if people started killing climate deniers The fascist eco-authoritarian discourse in this thread is reaching disturbing new levels. Trainee PornStar posted:You joke.. but check this out: well no poo poo, this stuff already been going on for decades smoke sumthin bitch fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 08:13
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BattleMoose posted:I used to cycle to work, would take about 40 minutes and really enjoyed it. It was free, exercise and actually felt super energized when I got to work. Its also a lot quicker than public transport. I never understood the hate for cyclists. Bicycles are a private mean of transportation that has like no cost to society. The real enemy is public transport in which governments funnel insane amounts of taxpayer money and build all kinds of exclusive lanes and bridges where cars are banned. I think most of the bike haters are actually pissed off at the war on cars and are misdirecting that anger towards innocent cyclists who are often too poor to buy a vehicle.
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Jul 15, 2017 16:29
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Arglebargle III posted:War on cars huh aka agenda 21 aka agenda 2030 aka eco-authoritarianism in general
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Thug Lessons posted:I'm glad a bunch of doomers are just openly admitting their ideology is genocidal and they intend to surf into the Mad Max future on a tidal wave of black corpses. I tried to tell them that carbon taxes are a death sentence for the third world but they dont give a flying gently caress. but they are oh so concerned about the possibility that the white homogeneity of their homeland might be threatened by MIGRANTS!!!! yall sound like the alt right sometimes i swear
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