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Why would China increase its emissions just because of Trump? It's not going to make or break economic dominance of USA over China or vice versa, and China is already milking the rewards and soft power benefits of being able to claim some moral high ground over the US threatening to abandon all its international agreements. Alternatively, hope is a lie and we are all doomed
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Hollismason posted:Because if the US isn't going to hold to the Paris Accord they'll be thinking " Well we can't let them possibly get a economic advantage". If China thought reducing emissions would severely damage their economy they wouldn't have signed up to the agreements at all. Now they can continue what they (hopefully) believed was the correct long term decision while also being  about they have surpassed the Americans as a world leader in the field.... right? 
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Nice piece of fish posted:Doesn't need to a huge cycle or some sort of WW3 scenario. Like I said previously, a limited nuclear exchange in Asia, the koreas going to nuclear war, india/pakistan, china etc, and we can postpone the worst by a lot of years. Obviously, I don't want this to happen, but the regions who are likely candidate for rapid destabilization AND has access to nukes, well... those are it. They also happen to be incredibly overpopulated and massively polluting. But this is purely speculation and would obviously be a horrible cataclysmic disaster. Not sure what you think nuclear war involving China would be other than WW3. Most people still see combating climate change as a nice but optional environmentalist luxury like breeding giant pandas. There won't be any will to tackle it if there is any more serious global instability which occupies people's attention, so we're pretty much hosed.
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Nov 10, 2016 18:00
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quote:Scientists are now saying it might already be too late to avoid a temperature rise of up to 7.36 degrees Celsius (13.25 degrees Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial levels by 2100. Isn't this a bit misleading? This doesn't seem be what the article really says. quote:The researchers also calculated there will be a "likely" temperature increase of between 4.78 and 7.36 degrees Celsius (8.6 and 13.25 degrees Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial levels over the next 85 years if greenhouse gas emissions continue at their current rate,. We're probably still screwed, but I don't think anyone who believes climate change exists thinks this ought to be a given.
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:Basically what we should do is try to empower and enrich third world nations so that if the poo poo really hits the fan and their surroundings become unlivable, they have the means to pack up and go somewhere cooler. Morbidly curious how you envision this playing out.
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Does anyone have experience with buying carbon offsets? I don't mean in the sense of 'will carbon offsetting save us' - I'm aware it won't - but rather, is it of any use for me as an individual to purchase them and if so how best to go about it.
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AceOfFlames posted:Interstellar is essentially the best case scenario I envision for mankind and that movie was like a horrific nightmare for me. Whenever I whine about not wanting to dig around in the dirt, that is what I see. The other things like "we don't need engineers, we need food", moon landing conspiracy bullshit being made official to discourage science and people dying because we don't have MRIs made me think "if this is what the future brings, then I hope humanity becomes extinct, since it would be preferable to this barbarism". Interstellar levels of decline in quality of life with climate change are both plausible and depressing but the other stuff you mention here has nothing to do with climate change. There is still going to be a demand for engineers of some description in the post-climate change world and it's not going to turn everyone into paranoid conspiracy theorists, even in the movie that made no sense (why would a government discourage people from an interest in space and science but continue to invest in a huge secret space program???) People are also dying due to lack of MRIs without climate change so 
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