StabbinHobo posted:

Accretionist posted:

I like trees and poo poo. They are good for aesthetics and health. Also, that's some crazy poo poo.

Whoever taught you that animals aren't sentient is a retarded person.

We are peerless in environmental damage.

And the way you're connecting non-sentience to animals, ignorance to superiority and valuation to hierarchy is loving peculiar, man

Polio Vax Scene posted:

Making decisions that ensure the end of the lifespan of civilization conflicts with operating a business as a going concern

froglet posted:

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-permafrost-methane.html

Compost bomb going off, we're hosed.

I'm just so angry. Ten and twenty years ago I was still in school. I didn't get any say in this.

I remember doing a school project when I was 10 about how we need to move away from coal so we don't kill the planet. When i got distressed about it and told my parents, they pet me on the head and told me it was all going to be okay and we need coal because bullshit grown up reasons.

Well, it's not okay.

call to action posted:

You'd only really need enough drag on the economy to create a permanent recession, then couple that with the retirement and student loan crisis plus wide swaths of people's few remaining nest eggs becoming worthless. Fun times!

Nocturtle posted:

Saudi Arabia's average temperature is projected to rise ~4C over the next 40 years. It looks like this moves the average summer temperaturep into (even more) lethal territory. Presumably a good chunk of this 200GW will be directed towards additional air conditioning.

call to action posted:

Here's just one example of a development bank that thinks there will be 1 billion climate refugees by 2100. Perhaps you can explain how that's going to work, absent the rise of hardcore fascism?

Nocturtle posted:

The partisan divide over climate change is growing:


Gallup applies an interesting classification to three different sets of respondents with broadly consistent poll responses: Concerned Believers,Cool Skeptics and Mixed Middle. Unsurprisingly people who believe climate change is real tend to be Democrats, younger or have a college degree:



It's bad that climate change as an issue has turned into a politically partisan issue. On the upside, the climate skeptic party is self-destructing.

ChairMaster posted:

The idea that everyone should live like Americans is straight up farcical in real life. Without clean energy for everyone

call to action posted:

To the earlier point, it has been gratifying to be banned in this thread, mocked, etc for being sadbrains and then having the science catch up with my pessimism. Predictably, the crowd saying how their kid will solve climate changes disappears at that point.

Car Hater posted:

Developed nations should skip the wait and povertize themselves. Even without climate change, soil erosion, the draining of the aquifers, etc, we can never build enough nuke plants to get out of the energy trap and maintain growth, so gently caress it. The final score is "Industrial civilization is non-viable, thank you for playing Life."