Arglebargle III posted:While you guys were going around in circles again the Heritage Foundation budget blueprint for the Trump administration got out. All the EPA departments concerning climate change are supposed to be eliminated, along with the DoE's energy efficiency and renewables departments. We covered that yesterday. We've upped our standards -- up yours.
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2017 21:20 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 23:13 |
OhYeah posted:"will likely increase" I like posts like this because I just imagine this guy remembering that he thought this, fifty years from now.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2018 14:51 |
Did anybody ever figure out WTF is going on with bees? And if it turned out to be actually true that our RF-soaked atmosphere confuses their navigation then frankly I just give up because that is ridiculous.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2018 12:12 |
Arctic permafrost thawing decades ahead of schedule, check. Arctic permanent sea-ice breaks for the first time, check. May I expect another catastrophic result sometime soon?
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2018 00:57 |
Shifty Nipples posted:It is vindication that we are not doomsayers or fear mongers, sure it is stupid to be like "told you so" but oh well I guess. And it's also vindication for those researchers who have been saying the sky is falling for a long time now, because in fact the sky is actually falling. That should ideally encourage the complacent to take scientific consensus more seriously than they have in the past, but I'm pretty doubtful that it will actually do so.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2018 12:59 |
qkkl posted:Water will land on the ground and take some heat from the ground. When the water evaporates the vapor rises into the upper atmosphere. In the upper atmosphere the surface area of the vapor increases because the decreased pressure causes the vapor gas to expand. With this increased surface area the amount of heat the vapor loses via thermal radiation increases, with about half of that radiation being lost to outer space. Therefore rain cools the Earth by moving heat energy from the solid Earth into the upper atmosphere where it can more easily radiate into outer space. That's not how anything works.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2018 20:58 |
qkkl posted:If the amount of heat radiated into outer space by the water vapor exceeds the amount it blocks from below then there will still be a cooling effect. More water vapor in the air also means more clouds, which reflect solar radiation. That's still not how anything works.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2018 02:46 |
To stay under +2? Yeah, that ship has sailed. I'm pretty sure if we zeroed global carbon usage tomorrow, +2 would happen anyway and maybe even +3.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2018 11:23 |
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2018 13:19 |
Trabisnikof posted:If a "scientist" said all that, I'd ask them what field they were in and not be shocked at all when they say physics. You mean "engineering". As a physicist, I can assure you my solution assumes a perfectly spherical and frictionless Earth and first-order perturbations at most, thereby making it a useless solution.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2018 18:43 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 23:13 |
Geoengineering is an intractable problem; we're not capable of modeling nearly well enough to predict the effects, much less control the outcome. That sentence will probably remain true until mid-century, which is obviously even more "too late" than it is now.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2018 04:40 |