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Greggster posted:Disregarding any consequences GMO-food has on humans (which to my understanding ranges from no signs of increased health risks to unsure whether there are long time-risks), what are the negative consequences it can have or already have had on the environment? In reality or in the brains of crazy people? this is key.
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Placid Marmot posted:Either you grant everyone freedom from responsibility and have nowhere to lay the blame for climate change, or you grow up and accept that it's YOUR fault that <bad thing> is occurring when YOU are one of the leading contributors to it. Or you work to get rules made that solve the problem and also apply to you. Sorry you hadn't figured this one out. You sound like those idiots saying "well why doesn't Warren Buffet just donate his money all to the government"
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I like how he read the list and picked the exact opposite of the correct thing of what people in the thread would call him. Kind of sums up his whole history in this thread.
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Rime posted:Weather stations present an aggregate measurement across large regions which does not account for localized outliers. The thermometers I observed in Hasenkeyf read 50-51 degrees while I was there. He misunderstood you as saying the water gets super hot when I think you were probably talking about the ridiculous sunburns. Edit- you edited thepart I was replying to as I quoted you haha.
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Mozi posted:So it was hotter than 44C, then - his original point being that he knew what 50C felt like, which is valid even if he was in a slightly hotter place than the official reading. "Well now wait a minute in your essay you said you were in the army 8 years but here on the record you were in the service for 7 years, 10 months. Which is it fella?"
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crabcakes66 posted:Yeah crops have definitely never failed before. crabcakes66 posted:Unfortunately the media only gives fuel to skeptics with that kind of logic. By associating everything that happens with climate change you desensitize people to its seriousness. So, you don't care about climate change and want the media to stop talking about it. Got it. gently caress off now.
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We just have to design something more efficient than trees. That can't get loose.
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Triglav posted:What is to be done in the developing world? Something something nuclear something
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Kudaros posted:Some years ago I received a death threat over some very minor, very specific, nonsense that wormed it's way through the media like that comic describes. It's amazing that they had the motivation to look at the original author's name, pick one out, get an email address, etc, but not read the very simply abstract. blowfish posted:Print out that email and frame it. Also post t here because I'm interested now.
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Uncle Jam posted:Even sitting in traffic is faster than mass transit. Japan has a loving amazing mass transit system but you end up commuting for loving ever. Living by the stations is expensive so you have to transit from a bus to the train to walking - its really easy to end up with a 2 hour commute for not terribly far distances. I somehow think that it would just be worse if they all had cars.
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TildeATH posted:Anthropogenic, you idiot. Anthropomorphic climate change is really mad at us for peeing on it's lawn.
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Femur posted:Are there historical examples of any society seeing these type of events coming and protecting themselves? changing? The Bible? 7 years of famine is pretty bad. Tragedies of the commons? Look at the rain forests, look at the rivers, look at the dodo. I mean, they did eventually fire proof the rivers again so it's not all bad. Did we know the Great Barrier Reef was gonna be hosed quite this soon?
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Everything just circles back to nuclear and we can't make people stop being idiots about nuclear.
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Paradoxish posted:I like how almost half of conservative republicans agree that climate scientists should have a major role in policy making, but less than 20% think that climate scientists understand whether climate change is occurring or what its causes are. Also 85% of those conservative republicans who want climate scientists to be involved in policy making also don't trust them to provide full and accurate information? I think it's like how everyone likes their congresscritter but hates congress. They just assume it'll be the 'right' (agrees with them) environmental scientists in charge.
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Wanderer posted:doom boner at maximum extension. Climate Change: Doom Boner at Maximum Extension
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double nine posted:why are there 2 red, yellow, blue lines? Edit- its a double post so you missed the explanation in the first one 
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Feral Integral posted:Climate Change: What was to be done? That's why there's a whole other thread devoted to energy generation. Because it just ends up in a ridiculous derail here. (Nuclear everywhere forever get hosed haters)
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CommieGIR posted:MW/Acre, Nuclear Plants have an extremely small footprint. And deaths/TWH. the most important number of all!
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"I don't generate any waste except for my dozens of lovely posts"
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A different similar graph had those. I think these are likley ranges of final result, with the outer being very unlikely and the middle being more likely.
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Fangz posted:Cool strawman. False Dichotomy. 
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Mozi posted:And this is without factoring any known unknowns (tipping points.) An/Arctic reflectivity loss. Various methane deposits. What else?
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Fasdar posted:Wildfire feedbacks and large scale forest loss in the mid and upper latitudes through increased insect/disease ranges; Interruption of oceanic CO2 uptake (phytoplankton, etc.); and, for fun, geological turbulence due to gravitational shifts following from ice sheet collapse (probably much later on in the game?); ummm... global increases in proxy wars and environmental warfare? I still think if we get some popular scientists onboard we can get Trump to embrace the nuclear dream. It's the power source of the future invented in America. that may not be true but he'll say it anyway
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:how bout we just let people live their lives as they see fit without any authoritarian/violent government intervention Libertarian thread is here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3636681
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Paradoxish posted:This thread goes around and around on this issue, but no, there isn't going to be a technological "solution" because it isn't really possible for there to be one. We have to both reduce emissions and eventually pull carbon back out of the atmosphere. The latter will be done with technology, but it's going to be incredibly expensive. The former will be done through technology and social change, both of which are also going to be costly. If we aren't willing to pay those costs and make those sacrifices, then we'll pay them later when we're forced to deal with the consequences of our inaction. We have a technological solution. People are idiots. 
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They need to to tag team large scale desalination with India
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Death spiral!
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Maybe we could try to have it reversed in 200 years instead of 500? You know, for the kids.
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ChairMaster posted:I'm sure when you're being beaten to death by climate refugees for the couple scraps of food you've got on you it'll definitely have been worth spending the extra time taking the public transportation or learning how to grow vegetables back when the soil could support plant life that offered nutrition to humans. When you get blown up by an IED or shot by some fascist with a gun it'll feel much better knowing you voted for the guys who didn't call climate change a Chinese hoax, but still failed to do anything even approaching remotely worthwhile with regards to addressing the problem. When your home is destroyed by a hurricane and you're left homeless and abandoned by a society that can no longer support even a fraction of the people who have literally nothing left but the clothes on their backs I'm sure you will sleep much better in the cold knowing that you bought the right kind of light bulb or reduced your carbon footprint enough to smugly tell people that they're a bunch of rubes being tricked by capitalism into enjoying what little time they have riding the wave of reckless consumption that doomed the world before they were old enough to vote in the first place. It's ok the rich will protect us with security drones that they'll definitely never turn on us later. 
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ChairMaster posted:I was under the impression that the Anthropocene mass extinction was already accepted as "underway", not "mathematically predicted". Also the world's not ending, this has happened 5 times before. It's just human civilization (and humans if we manage to properly sterilize the ocean of oxygen-producing phytoplankton). And possibly most of the insects. And eventually all the plankton.
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For all that we call it a sharing economy, getting people to actually share trips carpool style seems like a reasonably tough thing to coordinate but an important goal. Somewhere between Uber, car share, and public transit lies the perfect system.
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Gortarius posted:Give me some juicy details, please. Clouding /dust reduces temp for a while. Not sure where the spike after comes in.
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And as an individual action it continues to be largely worthless.
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the old ceremony posted:every poster itt needs to choose a species, not necessarily an endangered one, and devote their lives to helping that species make it through the climate apocalypse This is ineffecient. We need a dna ark. They don't need to make it through, as long as we can bring them back.
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Nocturtle posted:Probably one that could safely use nuclear power. We can do that too, we are just inexplicably terrified.
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TildeATH posted:I was hoping the term “ecomutants” would become a thing. It's not? I talk about the Ecomutants Clause all the time!
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WeAreTheRomans posted:We are all paying for their FTFY
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DrNutt posted:You are woefully naive and optimistic about what how society will weather climate change and we will never be able to offer the rest of the world the high standard of living that you or I currently enjoy barring some sort of miracle breakthrough in energy production. If only there was a source of energy production which emitted no carbon, with fuel that can be extracted from seawater, and which was provably the least lethal way to generate energy we have. Oh poo poo we invented it decades ago Too bad it's scary for the average idiot.
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Thug Lessons posted:If you want a humanity that stops extracting, refining, packaging and shipping things, you're going to disappointed. If you go to your grave predicting those practices are going to end, you'll go to grave seeing your promises unfulfilled. Great thanks. Meanwhile the rest of us will keep trying to convince society to be better. We just need a few handsome scientists to start calming explaining that nuclear is ok.
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