Climate Change: Post up your Phd. dissertation, coward

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Phayray: Feb 16, 2004

Arkane posted:

I've heard if you put solar panels in the clear out area for a nuclear power plant (you can't build anything commercial/residential within X miles of a nuclear station, I forget the number), it would produce more energy.

The number is an exclusion zone radius of 0.65 km according to this report. Even if you take the high end estimate (1.6 km exclusion zone radius -> 8 sq km) for a typical 2 GW site (0.25 GW/sq km) and take the low end estimate for solar from this NEI report of 1 GW / 116 sq km (0.009 GW/sq km), you're off by about a factor of 30.

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Phayray: Feb 16, 2004

blowfish posted:

Which is how the nuclear industry started out, before going on to be mostly functional for a few decades.

South Korea is the current example of an industrialised country doing nuclear right, and they're pretty much doing precisely what Morbus put on his list. China is the other example of a country trying to do it right, though it will take a few years to see if it turns out well.

If small modular reactors take off, it will probably be easier for the US/UK to get it right. Even if you don't crank up the rate of megawatts worth of nuclear generation deployed per year, SMRs are small enough that you'll need to build truckloads of them in a factory line to replace the half-dozen one-off giant reactors that would otherwise get built. They're also small enough to be more resilient so it should be easier to just plop them down pretty much anywhere safely.

Just to put some numbers behind this,

http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/economic-aspects/economics-of-nuclear-power.aspx posted:

Costs in the US are about 10% lower than the EU, but still 30% higher than in China and India, and 25% above South Korea.

Nuclear doesn't have to be as expensive as it is in the US, but is that way for the litany of reasons covered by some of the knowledgeable posters in this thread.

edit: also that world-nuclear link is a pro click if you want to see a detailed breakdown of nuclear costs.

Phayray fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Mar 22, 2016

# ¿ Mar 22, 2016 22:20

Phayray: Feb 16, 2004

Rap Record Hoarder posted:

Everyone's favorite Quaker Oats cosplayer published an interesting paper on how the government is the perfect entity to spur renewable energy development: http://pdfsr.com/pdf/reprint-242-wc.pdf

National labs: Quaker Oats edition Happy National Labs day ya'll :3

# ¿ Apr 21, 2016 05:55

Phayray: Feb 16, 2004

Oh, good, we're re-defining "alarmists" as "They say the danger is imminent, so scare tactics are both necessary and appropriate, especially to counter the deniers. They implicitly assume that all global warming and human-caused global warming are identical." I'm glad we're coupling "danger is imminent" with "scare tactics are appropriate" so as to muddy the waters. This list basically defines the entire scientific climate change community as "warmists" lol

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