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Paradoxish posted:No, it definitely makes people depressed. It's rough as hell accepting that, with all the hosed up and crazy poo poo going on in the world, that we're at the top of of a big loving drop in the next few decades. I mean, I blandly guess that 2/3rds to 3/4ths of humanity's total population will get wiped from it and I try not to think too hard about the implications beyond the fraction itself. There is no real "victory" against this. It's just how hard we can push to reduce the damage. Also, as self care, I rarely poke into this thread. 
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MiddleOne posted:Doesn't sound like it would scale well in practice at all. Beats batteries though, but yeah, it probably has some serious issues.
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starkebn posted:"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!" Truth, it IS totally worth a try.
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Son of Rodney posted:I've remained relatively optimistic over the last few years, but this year has kinda pushed me back deep into the depressive phase of the cycle. My gf and me are currently decreasing our footprints and waste significantly, but if feels absolutely hopeless. Don't mind oxxidation, that's just his/her posting gimmick. While what you do individually won't turn the tide on its own, you'll be much more ready to deal with the future than most everybody else. We'll collapse, have several centuries of awful, awful garbage, and probably figure things out from there.
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Rime posted:Accessible liquid hydrocarbons are gone. Accessible coal is gone (except really poo poo stuff, like the bagger fields of Germany). Surface minerals are gone. Subsurface minerals are tight. Fish are vanishing worldwide. Insects are vanishing. We don't know the long term health ramifications of the microplastics now showing up in loving Everything, Everywhere, could be nothing, could be worse than asbestos and on a global scale. Yeah, it'll be a fairly low power future for quite a while, but "yeah, we'll never surpass the Romans" is a fairly strong statement. Like, yeah, all the steel we've made will evaporate and not be the new surface mines, all the libraries will explode and we'll never have anything better than massive slave plantations. I get the feeling that this is the a fundamental disagreement that'll be found between a pessimistic person and an optimistic one, so I get the feeling we'll just be talking past each other on this one. 
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Socks4Hands posted:the 2011 posts are pretty great: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S246860691730165X#sec2 I mean, yeah, it's doable and that post was not wrong. It's also not going to happen, either.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:There is not one miserable person in this thread that I believe for even a second that if a scientist called a meeting and demonstrated he could pull 100 million tons of carbon out of the atmosphere for a dollar in a scalable way and that climate change was canceled that I believe would then become happy instead of being angry and desperately trying to find the next thing that justifies their misanthropy and personal lovely pessimism. Nah, I post in here from time to time.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Made by who? Over the next 50 years china and india are going to have almost 3 billion people waking up and asking "why don't we have a middle class?" and the sacrifices you've decided you would be willing for them to make will literally not matter. Over the next 20 years they'll quite likely have a billion climate refugees between them. I think you don't appreciate the problem here.
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Conspiratiorist posted:Both are countries that hate each other's guts, that have gone to war against each other in the recent past, that have existing border disputes, that constantly blame each other for instigating terrorist attacks on their respective soils, and as the Indus dries up Pakistan looks to its neighbor who says "tough luck" while siphoning the water they need to sustain their own agriculture. If they do find a compromise, I'll have high hopes of us figuring out how to have a high tech civilization through climate change.
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How are u posted:The Himalaya water all 3 of those nations. The glaciers that feed those rivers ain't gonna be around in 80 years. try getting super tight with regards to usage in 20-30 years. Thus the concern. http://www.grida.no/resources/6674 The Dipshit fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Nov 6, 2018 |
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Jack2142 posted:Its okay in 20-30 years we will have fusion powered desalination plants right?... right? Happy thoughts, desalination will probably be much, much less energy intensive than it is currently. People are doing cute things with graphene oxide as a filter material and that stuff is cheap as dirt.
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Nocturtle posted:
I'd believe it, especially if this analysis is focused on the US (isn't it?). The entire supply chain is kinda dog poo poo and poised to get worse. I'd like to see how China and India is doing with nuclear costs, since they are building it out, China especially, since they are going from 4% and shooting for 15-20% by 2030 or so with total capacity.
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gmq posted:Even if one country or two get all gung-ho about it, how do you get the rest of the world to follow suit? Even the threat of war wouldn't be enough, and if war does happen, how do you get all the economies running again after its end (if they manage to end it fast enough)? All the solutions seem to depend on somewhat healthy economies. US/China/EU are pretty much the big three political blocs that need to change. Resource extraction nations like Saudia Arabia aren't going to be dictating much if nobody wants to buy oil for burning. The above three blocs can lean *hard* on Brazil and the DRC, if needed. How to get the top three to get moving in sync is the biggie.
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gmq posted:I think of those three China is the only one that actually has the political capability to mobilize quick enough to do something (but that doesn't mean they will). The USA has a climate change denier as president for two more years (if not 6). Out of a dozen years. Yeah, we'll be cutting it more than a little close. On the positive side, maybe some CCS might make it out of the R&D pipeline into something usable for rapid deployment.
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Rime posted:If that gets to the voting stage, let alone passes, let alone achieves a single one of those bullet points in under ten years, I will eat a leather shoe on live streamed video. Sounds like a  to me.
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Trainee PornStar posted:Just checking I got this right.. So somehow we have to reduce our Co2 emissions while simultaneously emitting enough black carbon & aerosol to stop even more warming? "The last thing we de-carbonize is airline flights" is probably the shortest summary. That being said, it is going to be one hell of a ride, yeah.
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