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Crazycryodude posted:When's NYC gonna turn into the Manhattan Archipelago? I figure around then is when the rich and powerful will start caring. It won't, Manhattan is surprisingly high above sea level. If Antarctic ice sheets start collapsing into the sea en masse the water may get to Wall Street within our lifetimes, but a flood-prone Battery Park is a more likely scenario. The Carolinas and Florida are where major population centers will be affected first.
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Dead Reckoning posted:No government is ever going to do that, because no democratic government, and a non-zero number of undemocratic ones, will survive telling a significant fraction of their population that they have to be priced out of the ability to heat their homes and buy certain foods (since an increase in the price of energy will be felt across most sectors of the economy) for the greater good, while people in other countries continue to consume recklessly. The success of Republican messaging suggests you can get people to make all sorts of sacrifices as long as it appeals to a sense of in-group superiority and spite. We need a climate chauvinism movement.
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Carbon tax is still better than no carbon tax.
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Just guillotine anyone who ever drove a car I guess. Or switch to renewable electric whichever is more palatable.
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Apr 26, 2017 04:48
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It's true, the French Revolution was an especially sexy time. Just look at all those people singing in those fabulous outfits.
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Can we still have cheese.
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If we get to save the planet and wear amazing camp outfits where's the downside?
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Apr 28, 2017 00:03
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Is this supposed to be humor or are some people in this thread just broken? Can't tell anymore.
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Fasdar posted:Do you mean nitrogen? I don't think he does. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=haber+process
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All this climate change talk has got me down brochachos.
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At this point political violence is the most expedient answer and it probably won't work either. When Republican strategists made climate change a culture war issue they halted progress. Those fuckers.
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Wow this idea was mentioned in a popular scifi book a few years ago. This thread is depressing.
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May 6, 2017 23:53
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It's good to stop climate change. It's bad not to stop climate change.
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MiddleOne posted:Too controversial. Sometimes this thread needs a reminder.
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People are thrilled to make sacrifices when given a shared goal and a strong leader. This is 100% a failure of our leadership system. Look at Kennedy or Churchill or Hitler promising toil and service to cheering crowds. We could be fixing this right now. It is insane that a major crisis coincides with low labor participation. People would get behind a climate change Apollo program if our leadership wanted to do one. Instead our leaders appear to have decided to continue enriching themselves in the short term and, if they've thought this far, relying on the power of state repression in the future when the consequences come around. History will not be kind to the leaders of the early 21st century. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 05:53 on May 10, 2017 |
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Libluini posted:Your idea is laudable, but your examples are oddly bonkers, considering that Kennedy got shot, Churchill booted from office the day the war was over, and Hitler committed suicide. You guys really are broken if you think three of the most popular politicians of the 20th century aren't examples of leaders who could mobilize people to combat climate change. Do you have any idea how many jobs a green revolution would represent? People would absolutely get on board and forget/ignore that they ever believed Republican lies about the economy once infrastructure money rolled out to the whole country. Hell even a bad and wasteful wave of infrastructure spending buys public opinion for a few years. You can see it with the AHCA; people aren't so dumb that they can't see impacts in their own lives but they have to actually see it to be convinced. Once they see it only die-hard partisans will remain convinced that health care/clean energy are damaging. This is a failure of leadership.
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The entirety of human civilization is a small price to pay for the correct shade of blue.
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May 11, 2017 19:50
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Blade Runner gets more and more prescient.
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Telephones posted:Holy why do I read this thread poo poo is goddamn horrifying. If you think reading it is bad, wait until you're living it.
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Btw the Chinese have a similar expression for "bronze colored" that ranges from black through bronze to blue - green and if you look at various aged bronze pieces you can see the patina can range through all those colors. Getting back to the Greek sky, it's a literal description of the color of the sky because bronze can have a bright or even iridescent blue green patina among its other colors. It's almost like the ancient Greeks were more intimately familiar wth bronze than we are for some reason. Also we refer to the sky as slate or battleship or granite or peach or "darkling" or a whole bunch of other colors in our own literature. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 06:22 on May 12, 2017 |
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Register people to vote. There are people with the political will to act, they're just not in power. If you think individual action is pointless the only reasonable action is political. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 01:52 on May 23, 2017 |
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May 23, 2017 01:47
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Minge Binge posted:lol. voting? vote for who? clinton or trump? Trudeau, Harper or Muclair? Even if you get someone like Corbyn winning, there's decades worth of institutions willing to stymie any political progress. Out of all things voting has to be the most useless. This is dumb as hell.
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You guys deserve climate change.
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May 31, 2017 21:39
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The Washington Post posted:Financial firms lead shareholder rebellion against ExxonMobil climate change policies https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...climate-change/
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May 31, 2017 22:22
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The claim that large energy infrastructure projects are a drag on GDP has always been an ideological one. Republicans would prefer not to admit that any government spending might stimulate the economy, and their donors would prefer to keep legacy energy systems in place because they own those systems. As always, it's a mistake to assume any of these Republican arguments were made in good faith though many footsoldiers certainly believe them now.
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Yeah that's a really out there scenario for the most alarmed. Not sure if it's right to say alarmist. Hard too believe water - based photosynthesis will die off to that extent because it's such a successful metabolic pathway that it's literally taken over the earth 's surface.
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Rime posted:Why is it hard to believe that something which has happened no less than 3 times in the past, could happen again? Meh. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geological_history_of_oxygen
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I saw a monarch butterfly today.
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Jun 7, 2017 07:54
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White phosphorous is just as effective as napalm but doesn't add to carbon in the atmosphere!
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enraged_camel posted:http://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/07/antarctica-sea-level-rise-climate-change/ Yeah that's the 3 meter figure everyone refers to. We don't know when that will happen but within 100 years seem reasonable.
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Hippo about to eat you.
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Yeah, RIP. It's not like Phoenix has been a byword for hubris for 30 years.
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MiddleOne posted:How do you even begin to address this though? Political power flows from the barrel of a gun.
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hooman posted:That's one hell of a position. Libertarianism as a philosophy boils down to the assertion that markets are the only legitimate seat of political power. It is a garbage philosophy.
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Louisiana has been sinking for decades but that's all down to short- sighted river management. The only news is that somebody might do something about it.
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Jun 28, 2017 02:15
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Annexation is unnecessary in American commercial imperialism get with the 1950s.
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Ganson posted:Discussion of land loss and where we get our water are someone meaningless to me when you consider ocean acidification and it's secondary affects will kill us all within 150 years. I haven't seen anything like this.
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What's a leader if not a faceless mass of people?
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It's because they're electric. Also it may lead to cars as services especially since we're already visibly moving into a rentier economy as wealth disparity grows.
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