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I think I got it! A couple PDFs off my DTRPG wishlist. Thanks, de-grincher!
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So who grinched Spincut? Name and shame.
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Jan 13, 2016 20:21
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Sion posted:So who grinched Spincut? The United States Postal Service.
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Jan 13, 2016 20:24
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Spincut posted:I think I got it! You're welcome! There's a second (physical) part on the way, should arrive Friday if Amazon isn't lying to me.
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Jan 13, 2016 20:36
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Kai Tave posted:The United States Postal Service. I CAN'T BUY A FUCKIN CUSTOM TITLE FOR THE USPS.
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Jan 13, 2016 20:51
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Sion posted:I CAN'T BUY A FUCKIN CUSTOM TITLE FOR THE USPS. Well, you could but vandalism is legally frowned upon.
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Jan 13, 2016 21:02
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To be fair, FedEx is also complicit in the grinching, by inexplicably handing off delivery duty to the USPS even though Spincut lives in a perfectly normal, deliverable home in a major city. But yeah, the USPS took custody of the package and then lost it.
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Jan 13, 2016 21:19
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Spincut posted:I think I got it! Hypnobeard posted:You're welcome! Second part is out for delivery (not by the post office). 
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Jan 15, 2016 23:52
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Communications between me and EatinCake since December 30th:quote:EatinCake: I'm pulling the trigger on de-grinching for Rhjamiz. And, EatinCake, your intentions no longer matter: you failed to get a gift to Rhjamiz before leaving on a trip, and then failed to make good after you got back from your trip. You also failed to apologize, or even post in this thread at all. I waited for two more weeks after the date you said you'd mail something, but without tracking info or any confirmation from you, I can't have any confidence that you've actually done anything at all, and it's just not fair to make Rhjamiz wait any longer. You may not participate in TG Secret Santa next year, and you're going into the hall of shame, too. May Santa have mercy on your soul.
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Jan 18, 2016 06:14
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Hey, Spincut, did you get the second part of the de-Grinch? I swear you live in some back alley, because the carrier Amazon used didn't make the delivery on Friday for some reason.
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Jan 18, 2016 06:16
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Spincut's address is a house. I know because I used to live pretty close to that address. It's just a goddamn house, right on the street, there's zero excuse for delivery people failing to deliver items. There are ten thousand houses just like it in that area so it's not like it'd be this big unusual challenge.
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Jan 18, 2016 06:20
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Leperflesh posted:Spincut's address is a house. I know because I used to live pretty close to that address. It's just a goddamn house, right on the street, there's zero excuse for delivery people failing to deliver items. There are ten thousand houses just like it in that area so it's not like it'd be this big unusual challenge. Yeah, I figured, it's just weird that the carrier Amazon picked and the post office have trouble. Theoretically I'm supposed to complain if it's not delivered tomorrow so 
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Jan 18, 2016 06:27
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Leperflesh posted:Spincut's address is a house. I know because I used to live pretty close to that address. It's just a goddamn house, right on the street, there's zero excuse for delivery people failing to deliver items. There are ten thousand houses just like it in that area so it's not like it'd be this big unusual challenge. I did some looking and found a picture of Spincut, maybe we could include this along with the rest of the shipping info to help the delivery people find him. 
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Jan 18, 2016 06:29
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Boo to EatinCake for spoiling what was looking to be a grinch-free year (aside from FedEx/USPS shenanigans)EatinCake posted:Vow: I promise to not be an rear end in a top hat grinch. Vow failed!
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Jan 18, 2016 14:19
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MySawn, I've removed my email from the earlier post. Please PM me if you ever find out WTF happened to any PDFs.
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Jan 18, 2016 17:40
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Hypnobeard posted:Hey, Spincut, did you get the second part of the de-Grinch? I swear you live in some back alley, because the carrier Amazon used didn't make the delivery on Friday for some reason. It just arrived! I'll blame OnTrac for this one, they have a...reputation. Anyway, holy crap, thank you!!   This game looks great, I might even be able to dig into it today. Thanks, Hypnobeard!
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Jan 18, 2016 22:24
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I tried to PM Eatin but apparently he either has no PMs or his inbox is full/turned off. He posted on the 11th but nothing since then. 
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Jan 20, 2016 11:07
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You're a shady dude, Eatin, scamming a holiday gift exchange meant to spread cheer and goodwill. To me it's less about the thirty buxx of unearned lucre you connived out of the exchange while leaving it to others fix your petty greed, and more about subverting the spirit of the thing and disappointing your santee. You should feel really fukkin' bad. What a pathetic way to be.
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Jan 20, 2016 11:37
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Ego Trip posted:MySawn, I've removed my email from the earlier post. Please PM me if you ever find out WTF happened to any PDFs. I haven't heard from him in seven days now. The last he said, a week ago, was: quote:I am currently wrangling them today, I expect an answer by later this afternoon or tomorrow :/ It sounds like DTRPG is being unresponsive, but I'm also not happy with MySwan's infrequency of communication.
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Jan 20, 2016 19:12
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What is the longest TGSS has taken to wrap up? Feels like this one is going on for a long time. I'm all for working out issues but there is a point where you have to have some responsibility to go buy someone a thing and mail it to them. You get like 40 days to do it and now we're 25 days past that. Yeesh.
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Jan 20, 2016 19:30
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There's seriously zero excuse in the era of one-click Amazon purchases.
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Jan 20, 2016 19:33
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Drone posted:There's seriously zero excuse in the era of one-click Amazon purchases.  A thirty dollar TTG Secret Santa exchange should be the easiest, most trivial commitment in the world to keep in TYOOL 2015. ...unless you're a colossally unreliable flake or a such a lovely person you'll gently caress over someone else on Christmas to scam a fin and a half out of a gift exchange. I guess I'm caremad about this because as a divorced guy who's college pals have all moved away and a sort of distant relationship with family, I signed up for this just so I'd have someone to exchange gifts with and spread a little cheer. It would have felt pretty lovely if I was the one who got grinched on one of only a couple gifts I'd expect to get. I'm glad it went well for me, but just super annoyed at the kind of person who fucks someone over on Chistmas for such a rinky-dink payout. Shame on Eatin. Shame.
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Jan 20, 2016 19:45
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Drone posted:There's seriously zero excuse in the era of one-click Amazon purchases. Yeah...I had a gift purchased and shipped something like 8 hours after Santee assignments went out.
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Jan 20, 2016 19:57
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In years past, it has often taken until the end of January to wrap things up. In MySwan's case, he had a very legit reason for suddenly going AWOL for a while. It's personal and I don't feel comfortable posting it without his permission, but I accept it. He came in and apologized and promised to get DTRPG to unfuck the problem, and that hasn't happened yet, but it's also clear based on what Ego Trip said before, that DTRPG hosed something up, so they share some of the blame. MySwan mailed some socks and bought some stuff on DTRPG and assumed he'd done his duty and was finished. He then checked out with real life problems, which I can understand. EatinCake knew he was going out of town, committed himself to some kind of homemade gift or something, failed to mail it before he left, and now has failed to follow up after coming back on the 4th. He's not answering emails again, and never posted in the thread even though I told him he needed to apologize immediately. He received a gift, and didn't send a gift, and that's the sort of thing up with which we do not put, here in TGSS. Appropriate punitive measures are being taken. With over a hundred gifts exchanged, that's a 1% outright grinch rate. We also had maybe a 3% lateness rate caused at least in part by third parties - vendors, postal carriers, etc. - and that's not too bad, either. About what we've had in previous years. I have to walk a careful line. I have to balance the desire to come down like a ton of bricks on bad actors, vs. the very real and occasionally expressed fear that some goons have that they don't want to participate if it seems like too much of a risk. Being excessively heavy-handed suppresses participation. I don't want anyone to think that, if a problem happens that wasn't really their fault, they're going to be tarred and feathered as a result. I don't want people to think that they can't take time to put together a personalized package, perhaps including handmade gifts, because those tend to be the ones that Santees appreciate the most. We're a creative bunch, and I think there's a lot of value in encouraging creativity, even at the risk that once in a while someone underestimates the task they've given themselves and winds up in hot water. Having done this for six years running now; the goons who wind up outright Grinching, and that's just a small handful, have tended to be the ones who post once with enthusiastic interest, kind of check out, and then never post again. They probably don't bookmark the thread and read its updates every day. They probably aren't good at following up in many other aspects of their lives. They probably had no mean intentions and weren't deliberately trying to screw anyone, and they probably feel pretty bad about what happened, but those badfeels weren't enough to kill their crippling procrastination issues and/or their inability to remember and follow up on an impulsive commitment. We're averaging about one a year over a six-year timespan and I think that's a tolerable rate. Goons have always been willing to step up and de-grinch, as needed. My broad experience with TGSS has been awe at the level of generosity, goodwill, and joy that this project brings forth every year. I know a handful of people wind up disappointed, but multi-year participation rates are good, so I can see most goons are getting something positive out of the deal. My survey results support this conclusion. Broadly, people are very happy with the project, think the rules are about right, and would do it again. There are a few suggestions, which are great. We will probably start closer to November 1st, next year. I will try to pare down and freshen the wall of text that is the OP, but goons mostly agree that the rules themselves are fine. Here are some specific statistics from the survey: Of 46 respondents:
The suggestions, feedback, and things done differently questions elicited a number of ideas. Here are some that I thought were particularly useful or interesting:
I'd like to specially thank everyone who participated in the survey. If I didn't quote you, please be assured I did read your feedback and I take it seriously.
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Jan 20, 2016 20:54
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Leperflesh posted:one respondent felt there weren't enough naked dudes in the rules Make that two. I would definitely be in favor of a slightly higher-stakes "bonus round" style pot, as I was one of the ones who voted for a (slightly!) higher minimum buy-in for TGSS. Then again it's also my first year, and don't get me wrong, I'm super satisfied with my gift!
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Jan 20, 2016 21:08
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Leperflesh posted:
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Jan 20, 2016 21:10
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Leperflesh posted:
Also, can we get this guy banned from future Secret Santas?
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Jan 20, 2016 21:11
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I think the semi-grinch I got last year was one of the longest we had, I received my stuff in March iirc. Ended up fine in the end though
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Jan 20, 2016 21:17
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Every year I think I about putting "go ahead and send me dongs if you want" in my post...and every year I chicken out because I'm certain that it'll be the one year someone calls my bluff.
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Jan 20, 2016 21:22
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jivjov posted:Every year I think I about putting "go ahead and send me dongs if you want" in my post...and every year I chicken out because I'm certain that it'll be the one year someone calls my bluff. If you can't come up with a decent SFW dong-joke you're doing wrong.
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Jan 20, 2016 22:23
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Tekopo posted:I think the semi-grinch I got last year was one of the longest we had, I received my stuff in March iirc. Ended up fine in the end though And this year, you were the first to get stuff (I was your Santa btw).
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Jan 20, 2016 22:29
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I'd be fine with a higher round as well, I'm pretty sure I ended up going over on mine anyways.
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Jan 20, 2016 22:31
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DigitalRaven posted:If you can't come up with a decent SFW dong-joke you're doing wrong. I feel I should salute you for Battle Station Dongs. That was Artful and Cunning. I considered suggesting a high-value bonus round too, but I decided not to because I felt it might make people in the lower bracket feel uncomfortable. I don't want future lightning bonus rounds etc to get broken up into Rich and Poor tiers (which is what they'd risk becoming, regardless of intent or labelling).
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Jan 20, 2016 22:32
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DigitalRaven posted:If you can't come up with a decent SFW dong-joke you're doing wrong. If they made plastidip in sex toy purple you better loving believe I'd send someone an entire X-wing fleet coated in the stuff.
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Jan 20, 2016 22:33
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Yeah, given that most boxed games worth playing are in the $40-50 range and most of the cooler Ham/Warmachine models/model sets are at least $35, I think a higher cap might be a good idea, too. More than $50 feels at least to me like a kind of psychological barrier for Internet Stranger Gift Exchange Time though.
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Jan 20, 2016 22:40
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Otisburg posted:Yeah, given that most boxed games worth playing are in the $40-50 range and most of the cooler Ham/Warmachine models/model sets are at least $35, I think a higher cap might be a good idea, too. More than $50 feels at least to me like a kind of psychological barrier for Internet Stranger Gift Exchange Time though. There isn't a cap though, if you want to spend more then do it. The very first time I ever did a Secret Santa on the internet was with a video games forum and the recommended gift value was $50. I bought my Santee some board games and felt pretty good about that, my Santa however decided that stalking was  and just sent me a brand new MacBook Air because he figured that everyone could probably use a new laptop, no matter what they were into.
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Loxbourne posted:I feel I should salute you for Battle Station Dongs. That was Artful and Cunning. Yeah, I agree. I think the $30 baseline is fine where it is. I went over the limit when I found something really suitable and stuck closer to it when I found something that was equally good at that price. I was gifted multiple presents, one of which was shockingly above the suggested limit but all of them were equally appreciated. I think it's best to simply keep the established baseline and let Santa's opt to go over it if they wish, but breaking things into lower and higher cost tiers sounds like it'd be placing more emphasis on the monetary end of things in a way which could wind up becoming unfun and uncomfortable, especially around a time of the year that's already renowned for stressing folks out about finances.
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Tekopo posted:I think the semi-grinch I got last year was one of the longest we had, I received my stuff in March iirc. Ended up fine in the end though I think your Santa was my Santee, and I never really got confirmation he received his stuff; that was NovaLion right, who was snap deployed somewhere with no internet for 3 months in the middle of December? Armies everywhere are good at screwing people around.
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That was 2013. He made amends last year, by making a public apology and a donation to charity. There were no grinches last year, although as usual there were a small number of shipments that arrived a little late.
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Ah right. I will say though, I did like the shipping - for some reason I don't understand, Australia Post offers free shipping to any American MPO around the world, in this case a sizable box to Japan for nothing. Apparently it enters the US Military Postal System at a sorting office in Australia, and the US Military picks up the domestic post tab to get things there. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jan 20, 2016 |
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