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Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
:allears: Oh, I forgot about this comic! Nice to see it kept getting better.

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Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

BiggerJ posted:

#111

Mission 2: Farces of Death complete! And with less bloodshed than Mission 1: Pokin' Monsters, though that's a tough one to top.

Now that's a conclusion the ants in this forest will love.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Otherkinsey Scale posted:

117

MAYOR WAS BEAR

Also, this is totally gonna happen in Audrey's tavern...

This stupid plan will end up escalating until their country plunges into a communist utopia thanks to those many, many socialist candidates influencing people.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Otherkinsey Scale posted:

I don't think Lyndon's a likely suspect, since he was specifically named as an accessory to the murder. Plus he would probably be less surprised to find the body there. I'd bet on Barbara Everdark being behind it, probably after yelling at the vice president.

All we can know for certain is that the snake whose venom just knocks you out is going to play a major role in this murder mystery slash comedy of errors. Possibly the technically illegal wine, too.

I'm betting on Trixie's fiancée being the killer. Maybe her uncle is just so loving rich she couldn't help herself and is now using Trixie as the perfect alibi. Being rich after her uncle keels over fought against being together with Trixie, and love lost. The ancient story.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

super sweet best pal posted:

What is west if not a clockwise movement around a sphere?

It isn't! "West" can also mean stuff like left from Earth on a galactic map. And since the galaxy has the shape of a fat disc, and not a sphere, welp.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Cat Mattress posted:

Jymre probably got the happiest ending, having grown out of his "get rich quick" schemes and reconciled with his family, his fiancée, and even his boss.

Also don't forget that Destiny getting pretty much killed off also meant that a prophesied disaster was averted in Annette's world.

No joke, when I read what happened to Jymre at the end, my first thought was like "Ah, that's the planet Thorsby comes from! Jymre is his self-insert!"

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Android Blues posted:

I'm having no trouble at all with it! Nor do I need someone to "help me" with it.

It's a pretty simple objection. It's a speculative fiction story, set on a variety of fantastical imagined planets, that uses as its climax a "revelation" about the nature of the real world. The revelation in question is so spurious and obviously incorrect as to break your suspension of disbelief if you take it at face value. It's not the end of days or anything, but it's not a very satisfying ending to an otherwise great comic.

Does Thorsby think that "polygyny = fewer wars" is true? I don't know, probably not. Does the comic say that that's true within its universe? Yes, and that is very stupid and pretty unsatisfying, especially when it's teased throughout the comic as a grand mystery that nations are willing to kill to suppress. The only way you can take it at its face value without doing a fair amount of contortion into metaphor is to assume that it's meant to be a ridiculous joke - all this drama over something so patently stupid. The comic doesn't really sell it that way, though. Instead it's self-serious about the revelation, and uses it to deliver a moral about human nature.

In my reckoning that makes the ending pretty weak. It's also below the par for Thorsby's other work, which is often genuinely very perceptive. His sub-plot about the anthropic principle in Brain Chip is genuinely amazing.

In my view, "it's meant to be a metaphor for how the true war is rich against poor," is a pretty tortured interpretation. The comic literally features a panel of Hitler giving a speech while a narration box attributes his declaration of war to his lack of reproductive success. There's no support for "actually it's not about biology but class" in the text unless you're willing to go so far as to say all the exposition about evolutionary biology is in fact a complex symbol for, say, market capitalism and intrasocial class dynamics. (There's support for this in literature. Moby Dick uses chapter on chapter of nonsensical whale facts to get across its point about how whales represent the unknowable.)

You find my reading too literal. That's fine! I get that. But then what's your actual counter-point to it, beyond this kind of flippant, "ah, it's just a story, it could mean any number of things, when it says something that sounds bad, that's probably just a metaphor"? I'm down to have the discussion. Like, what's the alternative reading?

The alternative reading was already presented to you, and you rejected it. At this point a discussion seems fruitless, if you counter every argument with "NO" and then just repeating your earlier statements.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
So that's why they have to keep our dumb mage guy alive! Some of those fake beings have learned that they're inside a fake universe and try to keep him alive as long as possible, to extend their existence since they all blink out as soon as he keels over!

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Rumda posted:

How the hell are you only just getting this?
Have you even been reading the comic?

I suspected this from the beginning, but seeing my dumb hunch being confirmed is kind of nice.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

EndOfTheWorld posted:

Looks like Torgeir Lykke is about to get Yoinked.

Or living beings don't count as weapons and nothing will happen.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer
How about a compromise? Destroy the loving sceptre.

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Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Cat Mattress posted:

What if you get killed with the sceptre by a blow so violent it also destroys it?

The magical backlash of that event will create a rift in time and space, through which the lifeforce of the world will leak out, until the entire planet becomes empty and barren.

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