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Nov 18, 2016

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Synthbuttrange posted:

What're they going to do, kill him?

Hurt him a lot, heal him, hurt him a lot, heal him, repeat until he decides being buff and living as long as possible is less painful. Also buff Lyndon lmao

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Nov 18, 2016

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Dr Christmas posted:

If they're simulating an entire universe, wouldn't there still be billions of years worth of starlight still heading to Earth? Pretty shoddy worksmanship IMO.

The probability sphere contracts around Lynton. If he dies here it's possible the rest of the world has already ceased to exist.

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Nov 18, 2016

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Every page Lyndon is on contains a reason to dunk on him.

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Nov 18, 2016

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pathetic little tramp posted:

Yeah I think we're in reality, not a simulation - what the thread got right was that people do use the sceptre to try to tell the future, but I think there's something else that we're not guessing that explains the vanishing stars that just happens to be an event that is going to happen no matter what the sceptre says.

This is absolutely a simulation. It's the most parsimonious explanation for the timeskip, the stars vanishing being a thing, Lyndon being the most important guy in the Universe etc. etc.

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Nov 18, 2016

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Bobulus posted:

I think we're all on the same page. The only remaining question is: Did they have a plan based around keeping Lindon alive (as in: using him to pass back info), or were they keeping him alive (and as healthy as possible) only to prolong their own simulated lives?

Feels like the latter, to me.

Also the star thing could easily be the lightcone for the universe contracting towards whoever touched the scepter as they approach the moment of death. The little dude didn't know when the stars would go out, just that they would. As for that changing the outcome, that's the entire point of the scepter.
I feel like the stars vanishing combined with the year long time skips should prove that the stars are connected to the scepter rather than some outside event.

Relevant Tangent fucked around with this message at 04:32 on May 24, 2019

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Nov 18, 2016

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Sure, but right now Lyndon is the person who will get the data, throwing him off as much as possible is extremely useful.

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Nov 18, 2016

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Dragonatrix posted:

They have a sun that is still working after all the other stars had vanished.

How far away do you think the sun is?

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Nov 18, 2016

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Cat Mattress posted:

Approximately 140 millions times less far away than 2157 light-days.

That was my point. The sun being simulated tells you basically nothing because it's ~8 minutes away in terms of the light from it. I was just trying to make them do a search because I'm a monster.

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Nov 18, 2016

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The Lone Badger posted:

To be fair, it's also Lyndon's fault.

re-title the comic Lyndon's Fault imo

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Nov 18, 2016

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Terror Sweat posted:

So does the simulation start for everyone with them thinking "the sceptre must be broken, nothing happened"?

That or "Oh, guess I'm the doomed one."

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Nov 18, 2016

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Yeah, he's beefy af. "You killed me because I was super beefy, I must never lift a weight."

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Nov 18, 2016

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rear end in a top hat uncle who immediately died as well.

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Nov 18, 2016

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He never learned the spell to make his hand stop glowing and it's Lyndon as hell.

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Nov 18, 2016

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Also making him super buff will confuse the hell out of real Lyndon.

Can't get buff or I'll die
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Nov 18, 2016

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The thing that I love about the scepter is how inaccurate it is. It can really only help you avoid an immediate death. There's no indication of time, so you don't know you've flashed years into the future unless you look extremely different.

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Nov 18, 2016

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Betrayed by my phone. Anyway the scepter is a very cool conceit and I'm interested to see how Lyndon relays all the information back to himself/if gets to.

Relevant Tangent fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jun 23, 2019

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Nov 18, 2016

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Simulated people are as real as non-simulated people and anyone who suggests otherwise is just itching for an excuse to commit atrocities.

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Nov 18, 2016

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I love the ambassador's efforts so much.

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Nov 18, 2016

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Making sure things are as weird as possible around Lyndon when/if he dies, and the one spouting nonsense will help with that, seems to be the plan.

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Nov 18, 2016

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The snakes might all be sedated. That way they'd screw with pacifism magic but wouldn't try to bite people/escape.

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Nov 18, 2016

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uvar posted:

I went back and checked and Lyndon does call it a simulation, but still - I feel like focusing on that term is missing the point because it implies it's inferior. As far as we can tell it's a perfect copy of a sphere around the local solar system, and it's not the original but it's basically just as valid, and the Ambassador reasonably wants it to continue in the same way that I would want to prevent somebody ending the existence of me and everything else if I knew they could and might actually do it.

It is effectively a doomed world regardless. But it's like in all kinds of media (well, mostly SF & fantasy) where somebody gets duplicated; you shouldn't just murder one of them and call it a day.

Turns out murder is an effective way to solve the problem and if the entities who make the simulations keep getting useless results maybe they'll stop being assholes and making doomed simulations.

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Nov 18, 2016

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If you're not already going to try to murder the Demiurge just smh

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Nov 18, 2016

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Audrey continues to be the best. A concise summation of the situation followed by murder. 8 months real-time spent on this nonsense, it's incredibly Thorsby.

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Nov 18, 2016

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Thorsby logic is twisted but consistent. Occam's Razor is still a thing, etc.

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Nov 18, 2016

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Lotta people arguing for me to flip this switch that says universal shutoff itt.

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Nov 18, 2016

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Wild how many people itt want to destroy entire universes of people who are as real as they are for no reason.

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Nov 18, 2016

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All the goons who don't want a happy ending and are hoping for a fakeout, shame, shame. Let the characters be happy, deal with it.

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Nov 18, 2016

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It says epilogue. Unless he decides to be a jerk this is 100% a well-earned happy ending.

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