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Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich
So it looks like this was abandoned again.

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Mountaineer
Aug 29, 2008

Imagine a rod breaking on a robot face - forever
Socialists killed the country :argh:

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Now-former President Wing abolished the presidency while we were holding the election. A perfect end to a great thread. Sorry Debs, you were just too late.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Have faith

Pontius Pilate
Jul 25, 2006

Crucify, Whale, Crucify
V interesting that the death of this thread foretold the death of our democracy.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

The path was too dark

Honestly, though, looking through presidential history has really contextualized the Trump for me. All this has happened before. I thought Hilary would crush him like Nixon crushed George McGovern, but it turns out she was ----that super corrupt/powerful senator from the late 1800s. Blane? Clay?

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Oh lord:

Nebakenezzer posted:

Yeah, that's us: Order of the Cincinnati

What we really need is a college of electors both to enforce our will, and to keep unbelievable idiots from getting elected.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Well theoretically the electoral college could turn the other way if they exert their own personal judgement towards a more sane option, but historically unfaithful electors haven't mattered much (except maybe in 1876? It's a little ambiguous.)

Kind of weird that the original purpose of the system, voting for people who you think are reliable enough to choose the president because it's hard to keep track of national politics in the 18th century, is mostly paved over leaving nothing but a relic that skews votes weirdly.

cams
Mar 28, 2003


this was the best thread in this forum

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

"I am not a Know-Nothing. That is certain. How could I be? How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we begin by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes." When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and catholics." When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty-to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy." -Abraham Lincoln

Post relevant historical quote from American History ITT

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
"In its history, an enormous number of people have contended for high office. While some of these individuals have attractive platforms, strong managerial experience, and a network of backers, others have not. In certain elections, picking a candidate might entail sacrifices, either in policy or experience. The Prohibition Party, for example, once campaigned on a platform of civil rights, women’s suffrage, child labor laws, and the national prohibition of alcohol. Other parties might make wild promises, but provide no realistic way of achieving those ends. "

"...I am consumed by self-loathing..." -QuidProQuid

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
"Not so long ago men stood in marvel and awe at the cities, the buildings, the schools, the autobahns that the government of Hitler's Germany had built -- just as centuries before they stood in wonder of Rome's building -- but it could not stand, for the system that built it had rotted the souls of the builders. And, in turn, rotted the foundation of what God meant that men should be. Today that same system on an international scale is sweeping the world. It is the "changing world" of which we are told. It is called "new" and "liberal". It is as old as the oldest dictator. It is degenerate and decadent. As the national racism of Hitler's Germany persecuted a national minority to the whim of a national majority, so the international racism of the liberals seek to persecute the international white minority to the whim of the international colored majority, so that we are footballed about according to the favor of the Afro-Asian bloc." --George Wallace, 1963

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

fantastic in plastic posted:

"Not so long ago men stood in marvel and awe at the cities, the buildings, the schools, the autobahns that the government of Hitler's Germany had built -- just as centuries before they stood in wonder of Rome's building -- but it could not stand, for the system that built it had rotted the souls of the builders. And, in turn, rotted the foundation of what God meant that men should be. Today that same system on an international scale is sweeping the world. It is the "changing world" of which we are told. It is called "new" and "liberal". It is as old as the oldest dictator. It is degenerate and decadent. As the national racism of Hitler's Germany persecuted a national minority to the whim of a national majority, so the international racism of the liberals seek to persecute the international white minority to the whim of the international colored majority, so that we are footballed about according to the favor of the Afro-Asian bloc." --George Wallace, 1963

This is some master class "REVERSE RACISM" right here

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

"Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide." --Abraham Lincoln

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!
"If you are part of team Federalist, you walk around with these gaping, seeping wounds every single day, and that's fine. I believe in a full and fair press. I’m here every Sunday morning. I haven't slept in a month. I believe in a full and fair press." -Alexander Hamilton, probably

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.

Nebakenezzer posted:

This is some master class "REVERSE RACISM" right here

Yeah, it's nuts. I think that whole speech (where the famous "Segregation today, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever" line is from) is unfortunately relevant during the year of our Lord 2017.

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Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!
The Onion on the American presidency. Seems relevant to this thread.

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