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Necronomoticon posted:- bus The bus that services the Palo Alto Caltrain through HP, VMware, etc, randomly does not run at all for entire days. I don't know if that is something up with the VA hospital or just general awesomeness.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the support contract on metrocards is running out and there is 0 plan to replace them good, maybe they'll do contactless finally
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Beeftweeter posted:good, maybe they'll do contactless finally the swipe card support contracts run out in 2019. if they started spending money on a contactless system right now, like, this past week, they could possibly have had a new system rolled out by 2022. mta purchasing and capital planning is so laughably incompetent that the best case scenario is three years of decreasing liability and spiraling costs. but it's the mta we're talking about. i'll probably be cold in my grave before they replace swipe cards
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the swipe card support contracts run out in 2019. thats what i thought about mbta & tokens and welp i still have a charliecard
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Beeftweeter posted:thats what i thought about mbta & tokens and welp i still have a charliecard charliecard was introduced on 12/4/06 the last mbta token was sold on 12/6/06 mta metrocard was introduced in 1993 the last tokens were accepted in 2003 you see the difference here
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the other cool take-away from those dates: the mta phased out tokens around the time all other transit systems were moving to contactless 1993: mta begins pilot project with swipe cards 1996 - seoul adopts contactless 1999 - shanghai adopts contactless 1999 - rome adopts contactless 2001 - tokyo adopts contactless 2001 - paris adopts contactless 2003 - london adopts contactless 2003: mta finally finishes getting swipe cards deployed 2006 - boston adopts contactless 2007 - mumbai adopts contactless 2007 - los angeles adopts contactless 2010 - san francisco bay area adopts contactless 2010 - mumbai abandons contactless because they hosed it up 2013 - chicago adopts contactless 2013 - moscow adopts contactless 2016 - philadelphia adopts contactless 2020: mta deploys its very first contactless machine, if everything comes in on-time and under-budget (lol) naturally wikipedia had articles on every contactless system in the world AND tables of their various introduction dates. thanks, wikipedia Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Nov 26, 2015 |
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i think it would be cool if there was a button or something on my subway card uh TAP card they call it and if i pressed it or maybe like it sucked power from my fingers or maybe i could shake it idk im not a tech guy anyways it would be cool if it could tell me my balance. it tells u the balance on the turnstile when u go thru it but my neurosis increases as i approach esp if there a lot of ppl or a crazy person / crack head
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the other cool take-away from those dates: the mta phased out tokens around the time all other transit systems were moving to contactless somewhere in there: dc + baltimore adopt contactless technology from a company that then goes bankrupt half the readers are so bad you have to mash your card and rub it around before the reader picks up anything not to mention the slow as gently caress gates to enter/exit the station that have not been updated since the 70s
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the dc metro is a funky hybrid of commuter rail and subway eh, i see you point in a way, the dc metro was primarily designed to get people in and out of dc and does a poor job of getting people around dc itself but if you look at major metro systems outside the US, where the dc metro is comparable in number of stations or track length (take the Berlin U-bahn) and they manage to be fixed fare no matter what distance, or at least zones
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mishaq posted:but if you look at major metro systems outside the US, where the dc metro is comparable in number of stations or track length (take the Berlin U-bahn) and they manage to be fixed fare no matter what distance, or at least zones so yes, we agree entirely. the dc metro resembles the U-bahn system more closely than the S-bahn, but retains the zoned S-bahn fare structure. that's kinda messed up.
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2015 - Vancouver finally introduces contactless. it's all done by cubic so no wonder it's garbage.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:so yes, we agree entirely. it is very bad
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you! bahn mi
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:2013 - chicago adopts contactless Cubic runs this one. the rollout of this was one of the most botched transit tech systems ever. Chicago issued NFC passes that could also be used as debit cards so that they could hopefully skim off transaction fees when people used them to pay for regular things. when the system rolled out, people were regularly being either not charged despite tapping their card, or were double/triple/quadruple charged. I remember visiting my parents and just being waved onto the bus because the reader was just so hosed. It took them the better part of a year to get it barely functional.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the swipe card support contracts run out in 2019. James Murphy submitted a concept to have new turnstiles play musical notes that varied on a per-station basis. The MTA's response was to get extremely aggro and yell about how it was physically impossible to implement.
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lol @ septa ever getting anything implemented on time, never mind that the subway system is barely one at all
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Seattle's ORCA contactless system is cool and good, never had an issue with it. We're rolling out a ton of new electric trolleybusses right now and will have light rail to the U-district/Capitol hill in the next few months so things are looking up 
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:dc metro is a subway system that uses a commuter rail attitude. they charge people in ways that make pretty much no sense, assuming somehow that the covered area is an undifferentiated mass of people who chose to live closer or further from work
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a rowdy mullet posted:Seattle's ORCA contactless system is cool and good, never had an issue with it. We're rolling out a ton of new electric trolleybusses right now and will have light rail to the U-district/Capitol hill in the next few months so things are looking up is this like the silver line on the T if so then lol those are just electric buses
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the San Diego silver line is refurbished antique streetcars
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triple sulk posted:lol @ septa ever getting anything implemented on time, never mind that the subway system is barely one at all septa was saying that their contactless stuff would be deployed spring 2013 (iirc, possibly before), so don't worry, there's no risk of them starting to implement things on time even if it does happen in 2016
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Soldier of Fortran posted:septa was saying that their contactless stuff would be deployed spring 2013 (iirc, possibly before), so don't worry, there's no risk of them starting to implement things on time even if it does happen in 2016 initially it was supposed to just be a smart card system like everywhere else iirc. maybe it was supposed to be contactless but i expect to move back and everyone is still using tokens like it's the 70s.
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the only metro train system i've used is london's, tell me why it's bad
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the only bad thing is you may have to switch lines a couple time to get where you need to go, and also the angel station's escalator takes like 90 seconds to go up if you stand still, but it is otherwise cool and good
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nyc has an amazing boondoggle of a system mired in union negotiations, lovely contracts, poor planning, bad disaster response, resistance from upstate hicks, swipe cards, non-standard tracks and control systems, garbage and piss and rats everywhere and it's still the best subway in the country.
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carry on then posted:the only metro train system i've used is london's, tell me why it's bad no a/c so in the summer it can get so hot they hand out water bottles so people don't collapse from heat exhaustion
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theflyingexecutive posted:nyc has an amazing boondoggle of a system mired in union negotiations, lovely contracts, poor planning, bad disaster response, resistance from upstate hicks, swipe cards, non-standard tracks and control systems, garbage and piss and rats everywhere and it's still the best subway in the country. the more I read about the MTA the more loving shocked I am about the ingenuity and triumph against adversity the organization faces. I mean yeah they're rotten as poo poo but in spite of that it manages to be the most heavily utilized transit system in the us. the MBTA is baby poo poo compared to it but yeah easily #2 by a long stretch
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the LA Expo line to santa monica is delayed an extra few months cause a contractor forgot to put a drain near a huge dirt wall they built ('it doesnt rain in LA, who needs drains lol')
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Jimmy Carter posted:Cubic runs this one. the subway readers never give me trouble but I swear the bus ones fail like 10% of the time and j feel like an idiot and there's a line of people behind me getting angry
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lmao forever if your trains don't run 24 hours
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theflyingexecutive posted:lmao forever if your trains don't run 24 hours this was the thing i liked least about living in boston tbf the rationale of "cmon guy its old as poo poo we need to work on it" (if true) is a good one, i've been in nyc for like 4 months and i've already had to deal with them doing bullshit repairs on the lines i need to use on the days that i need to use them for 2 months straight
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theflyingexecutive posted:lmao forever if your trains don't run 24 hours theres a reason boston has an inferiority complex
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Beeftweeter posted:tbf the rationale of "cmon guy its old as poo poo we need to work on it" (if true) is a good one, i've been in nyc for like 4 months and i've already had to deal with them doing bullshit repairs on the lines i need to use on the days that i need to use them for many years the mta refused to close the subway even while it was being worked on. they would just go down to a single track in service guys would have to jump off the tracks to let trains go by
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:for many years the mta refused to close the subway even while it was being worked on. they would just go down to a single track in service That owns.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:for many years the mta refused to close the subway even while it was being worked on. they would just go down to a single track in service The MTA is so petty they only do this so they can claim they are open 24 hours a day. The only difference between MTA and the Underground is that you can wait 6 or so hours on the platform in New York for the next train.
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Smythe posted:That owns. it doesn't own at all. it used to take months and months to do work that should have taken like a week.
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MrMoo posted:The MTA is so petty they only do this so they can claim they are open 24 hours a day. The only difference between MTA and the Underground is that you can wait 6 or so hours on the platform in New York for the next train. they actually are open 24 hours a day. they do close stations and lengths of track on weekends and evenings to do repairs now though
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Beeftweeter posted:this was the thing i liked least about living in boston https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laz4oqDSXRs
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i like the tube
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lol i lived here for a long rear end time about 8 years ago. i just never saw them totally shut down most of a line before
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