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VIsion Statement: to have spirited discussion about all forms of mass transit and to reach a group consensus on the most well organized and efficient transit system worldwide. relevance: train stations are p cyberpunk and pretty much every train station is run mostly by computers today. they're p cool I'd like to open the floor with the following question: why doesn't California have some kind of pan-Californian high speed monorail or w/e also post pictures of trains and trainstations and poo poo
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2015 06:30 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 23:40 |
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SO DEMANDING posted:i wish to hell the subway lines would extend out to 128, getting into boston from the suburbs is a real pain in the rear end this was an actual real plan in 1970. like we had funding and land use permits and everything we needed. all four lines terminals were going to kiss 128. including the blue line, which would've gone all the way to Salem. I had a loving stroke reading about it. it got shut down by nimbys of course. also red line was going to terminate at Arlington center but lol black people so that's why it's ends in the middle of nowhere in alewife also in 1970s it would've only cost like 14 million versus what like 32 billion now? that's two instagrams
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2015 16:32 |
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Shaggar posted:bicycles do not belong on the road. shaggar this is a safe space to discuss mixed mode transportation. please leave before I call security
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2015 16:40 |
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SO DEMANDING posted:yeah saw you post about that in the tech bubble thread, it pisses me off, too. I've been researching the MBTA for school all semester and it's more or less a slow descent into ego death
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2015 17:04 |
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is it true that the northeast corridor is the only track rated for acela? why did they make stops 5 minutes apart if so??
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2015 19:41 |
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no talk about marta that's probably my next semester project
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2015 20:09 |
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content post: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...E5sM/story.html quote:As the fiscal control board that oversees MBTA finances looks for ways to dig out of a deficit, several board members appear ready to pull the plug on the MBTA’s pilot program that extended service on buses, subways, and the door-to-door service for disabled riders, for 90 minutes on Friday and Saturday nights. long story short the T runs until 1ish on regular hours and bars in Boston close at 2. in this new program last trains run at 2:18a Friday and Saturday so that crowd can get home. our governor is a moron who thinks privatization is the way and people should rely on uber to get home and is in general all about cost cutting to solve the MBTA deficit especially in the face of critical failures in service last winter also major service cuts to commuter rail north of the city so lol if you live in a suburb now especially if you think Boston was too expensive to live in before
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2015 21:51 |
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theflyingexecutive posted:nyc has an amazing boondoggle of a system mired in union negotiations, lovely contracts, poor planning, bad disaster response, resistance from upstate hicks, swipe cards, non-standard tracks and control systems, garbage and piss and rats everywhere and it's still the best subway in the country. the more I read about the MTA the more loving shocked I am about the ingenuity and triumph against adversity the organization faces. I mean yeah they're rotten as poo poo but in spite of that it manages to be the most heavily utilized transit system in the us. the MBTA is baby poo poo compared to it but yeah easily #2 by a long stretch
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2015 18:06 |
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theflyingexecutive posted:it owns a lot except for the sad tired people just getting off work this is me and everybody in my heavily Hispanic neighborhood. Night owl T service on every line except the Blue line is full of drunk college idiots. Blue line to East Boston is like 95% Hispanic men looking exhausted because we all just worked at a bar or restaurant that night
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2015 08:04 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you're a hispanic muslim who works in bar? Malaysian. which is why living in a Hispanic neighborhood is hilarious because everybody thinks I'm the other kind of brown. also I loving hate uber but east Boston isn't bike accessible except through a truck road and crackhead salvage yard hotspot late at night so I have to cab it home. sucks but I make enough money that a 13 dollar cab ride isn't the worst. late night service owns because I can bike to the train, take it over the water and bike home in peace. in related news loving banner week for the MBTA. two jumpers, another guy pinned under a train, deadman switch on a train disabled, and the new extension plan is dead in the water. what poo poo.
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2015 18:57 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:but you're a muslim who works in a bar? what's uncomfortable? do you get weirded out eating at falafel joints?
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2015 19:28 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:no, but my religion does not prohibit the consumption of fried chickpeas great well I like making money while I'm in school and just because my religion says not to drink doesn't mean other people can't. thanks and God bless/allahu ackbar
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2015 20:19 |
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quick somebody ask me how I reconcile brunt queer with being Muslim because those things are also incompatible (they're not)SO DEMANDING posted:hmmm. looks like some serious issues. better cut funding. yeah our governor is doing nothing about it and is making us unfit for the winter
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2015 20:21 |
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yard salad posted:Bus rapid transit is almost always a better idea than streetcars. You can take advantage of some existing infrastructure and the train-like stations and service make the white flighters feel better. The buses can also drive around parked cars yeah in an ideal world BRT has dedicated lanes so you get the look of a train but the savings of a bus. there's less overhead when it's just pavement
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# ¿ Dec 11, 2015 21:18 |
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Smythe posted:imagine a bus jumping over a bunch of flaming monster trucks. that would be so sick they do this already
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2015 21:21 |
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it's Florida so I'm sure a photo taped to some cardboard counts
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2016 21:27 |
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so the mayor of Boston is trying out a car ban on the soho boutique style street in Boston for one day this summer and I can't wait to hear the bawling from all the moron henrys and their land rovers and audis bitching about not being able to park in front of Burberry or soul cycle
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# ¿ May 21, 2016 21:59 |
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also whoever said Boston isn't a bikeable city is a moron. Boston is probably one of the most bikeable major metros because of how dense the city is built. you can be end to end in 45 minutes on a bike. poo poo I live in east Boston, on the Atlantic Ocean and I can still probably get two towns out of Boston in any direction in an hour
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# ¿ May 21, 2016 22:17 |
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Bloody posted:boston sucks to cycle in because the road conditions are atrocious and traffic volume is absolutely insane dont be a wuss. cycling means you don't have to deal with traffic and if you keep getting flats get better tires. I get what you mean but it's just a learning curve. if you can handle Boston/NYC streets on the daily you can basically bike any other city just off that core skillset source: I bike Boston/Camberville as a job
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# ¿ May 22, 2016 03:24 |
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Bloody posted:and cycling in boston is literally 100% dealing with traffic. it is 100% try not to get murdered by terrible taxis buses trucks and assholes in bmws that's everywhere with cars. somebody on the pos posted a video of a guy on a bike getting owned by a guy on a motorcycle in some canyon in the middle of nowhere there's cars trying to kill you no matter where you go. at least Boston is putting more protected cycle tracks though for people like you who are understandably skittish about dealing with traffic. I totally get what you're saying though. once you bike in traffic regularly it kind of goes away. I mean you're always hyper vigilant but it's not nearly as stressful. you still have the same random chance of death but you at least learn better ways of anticipating death uh I deliver farmshare/csa goods via bike and on some days I do recycling pickup for the city of Cambridge via bike. this is my whip pre trash that bike weighs 400lbs by itself. my high score is 500lbs of recycling on it according to the scale at the recycling center. let me tell you you haven't lived until you've tried to take that loving tank on a 40mph rd. Casual Encountess fucked around with this message at 04:28 on May 22, 2016 |
# ¿ May 22, 2016 04:25 |
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drat right I do and it's going to be a loving AMAZING thesis on sustainability for me
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# ¿ May 22, 2016 11:36 |
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I see old Chinese men pushing the same amount of cans on regular rear end mountain bikes all the time it they can do it so can a fat out of shape computer toucher
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# ¿ May 22, 2016 11:58 |
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I'm seriously impressed these old dudes have to make at least a Hundo a day in can returns
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# ¿ May 22, 2016 11:59 |
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triple post: the other part of my thesis is about low income work and how cycling and public transit is the backbone of that class and how better cycle infrastructure lets browns and darks get to their lovely underpaying job more efficiently it's basically about class warfare through biking
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# ¿ May 22, 2016 12:03 |
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well yeah infrastructure comes from rich white people who have time to lobby for it. working class people don't have time to push for it but they're actually impacted far more by safety measures
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# ¿ May 22, 2016 13:25 |
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Shaggar posted:low income people either need cars or good public transport like subway/elevated rail. yeah but how can you afford a car at $8/hr or for that matter the bus? also why increase single occupant car traffic? that's a problem everywhere. not even because I like bikes but it's not remotely feasible to own a car at 20k a year. I get that you don't like bikes but don't be a classist moron. if a bike part breaks you can fix almost any part for <$40. you buy a lovely $2000 car you have to spend 5k in repairs minimum, not to mention gas. in Boston a monthly pass is $80 so almost 1k/yr out of that 20k. this is a place with functioning public transit, which there's like <10 cities in America that have anything approaching mediocre let alone good. or you pay $150 for a bike once and maybe you pay $80/yr in maintenance, most of which is fairly easy to do at home. don't be loving dense
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# ¿ May 23, 2016 01:09 |
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i teach free repair classes, provide a full shop of tools and have a "earn a bike" program for exactly these people precisely because a lovely beater bike is a hell of a lot more reliable than any car they could afford
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# ¿ May 23, 2016 01:14 |
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mishaq posted:you're talking to shagger yeah I just let myself get shaggar'ed didn't I
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# ¿ May 23, 2016 01:14 |
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Shaggar posted:any city where bicycles are viable should have superior public transport (subway) key word is "should" and you didn't address my point that even if the subway exists, how can somebody making minimum wage afford it?
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# ¿ May 23, 2016 12:22 |
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Shaggar posted:if they cant afford the subway on a commuter plan how are they gonna afford housing? subsidizing their subway plan or paying them more both make more sense than loving up everyones transport to put it worthless bike poo poo that still wont serve them well enough. ahahaha you think they'll pay people more? if you really believe that call up your congress and state congress people and tell them that. otherwise stop living in a dream world. you clearly don't understand what it means to be poor. it takes years to get section 8 housing, then food stamps covers maybe 2.5 weeks of food at best. you have a kid? good luck affording childcare if they're not school age. good luck seeing them if they're school age because you have to work 3 jobs to make sure you can cover rent and all the other expenses. if you think poor people are lazy you're a complete loving moron. idk what industry you're in but I can bet you you don't do half the "work" my theoretical single parent in this case is. also lol if you're a single dad you get three times as hosed
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# ¿ May 23, 2016 16:08 |
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also show me any teansit system that subsidizes low income and not just olds/students
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# ¿ May 23, 2016 16:09 |
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rjmccall posted:sf muni does this, fwiw do they? good for them! I didn't know that. now if we could get other systems to do it.. anyways shaggar you don't have to like bikes. that's fine that you don't but don't be willfully ignorant to serve a gimmick. everybody deserves the same shot at happiness and this handwringing bullshit "they should do X" accomplishes nothing. go volunteer somewhere that trains teens for jobs or something or shut the gently caress up
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# ¿ May 23, 2016 16:34 |
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be the change you wish to see namaste
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# ¿ May 23, 2016 16:36 |
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Cygni posted:seattle has low income fares, and los angeles has subsidized monthly passes, as well as free fare programs. phoenix and portland have free or discount fares they give out to low income serving non-profits. yeah the non profits I knew about I was more thinking of direct transit authority compensation. thanks y'all I got some reading to do!
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# ¿ May 23, 2016 19:26 |
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also stop saying bikes are unreliable that's flat out wrong compared to cars trains or busses. both in transit and in maintenance like I previously said. as for bike distance, it increases your availability to two miles in an hour walking to at least 15 riding. that opens up your potential jobs significantly I'll concede riding in snow being not optimal but it's also super easy and very achievable
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# ¿ May 23, 2016 19:54 |
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traffic diets and traffic calming own
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 16:06 |
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in Boston news, they're putting in protected bike lanes on one of the most dangerous streets in downtown. I went to the planning commission meeting slash so did dozens of people also in the Boston Cyclists Union to raise hell because one woman died and lots of people got injured
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 16:08 |
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mass ave. between the bridge to like symphony
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 16:53 |
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bump_fn posted:is there a proper name for the radial +spokes style layout like the Moscow metro cause that's the best radial and spoke also people keep trying to get me to suck the BRT cock but lol I have yet to see an implementation that works as planned. on paper great and I'm all for it but the silver line deployment in Boston is loving criminal
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 21:50 |
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# ¿ May 13, 2024 23:40 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i helped design part of the new orleans streetcar system and that section of the expansion is gonna be excellent for getting tourists from the bed and breakfasts in the marigny and bywater over to the downtown area w/o makin them walk thru the treme ghetto or the sketchier parts of the quarter is the treme Baltimore level sketchy?
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2016 23:11 |