DO YALL WANT A HAM posted:

not

Hijo Del Helmsley posted:

The Definitive NFL 2015 Fraud Teams List: (In no particular order)

Bengals
Steelers
Packers
Vikings
Colts
Falcons
Panthers
Dolphins
Patriots
Jets
Cowboys
Giants
Eagles
Washington
Broncos
Chiefs
Cardinals
Seahawks
Rams

If your team is not on this list, congrats, you're not frauds, you're just bad. Although you can be both on this list and bad.

Spoeank posted:

Intruder posted:

The Texans 5-5 with wins over the Bengals and Jets while tied for the division lead makes them plenty qualified to be fraudulent

Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:

you guys do not use the word fraud nearly as well as the guy you picked it up from

Hijo Del Helmsley posted:

I didn't call Texans frauds because everyone knows they're being carried on the shoulders of The Other One True American Hero, JJ Watt.

Intruder posted:

It's funny how even in a down year JJ is still arguably the top defensive player in the league

He has 21 TFL, 7 more than second place Aaron Donald with 14 and leads the league in sacks with 11.5, second place Chandler Jones with 10.5.

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Can we get an updated list of non-evil teams?

Intruder posted:

1. Patriots

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Can we get an updated list of non-evil teams?

Popy posted:

non-evil teams are the cards, panthers, packers, and all of the AFC but steelers.

quote:

In Week 1, Arthur was trampled by a Ravens player on a punt against the Broncos and suffered gruesome injuries: nine broken ribs, a broken collarbone, and a partially collapsed lung.

Monday night’s game was Arthur’s second game back, and our source believes Arthur blew the whistle because he became skittish once Brady and the action of the play rolled his way, toward the sideline.

quote:

With six minutes left in the third quarter, the Patriots caught the Bills defense substituting, quick-snapping the ball while Jerry Hughes was late running onto the field from the sideline, and White scored a 6-yard touchdown to put the Patriots ahead, 20-10.

But the Patriots never should have been allowed to snap the ball, according to the source. A bird’s eye view of the play shows that Patriots tight end Scott Chandler began running onto the field from the sideline, but quickly reversed course and retreated back to the sideline.

The Bills countered by sending three new players on the field, while Jerry Hughes was looking over to the sideline for instructions and was very late getting back to the new line of scrimmage. When the Patriots snapped the football, the Bills were barely set, and Hughes was 15 yards in the backfield.

Even though the Patriots technically didn’t substitute, the officials should have stood over the ball and not allowed the Patriots to snap it until the Bills were given Bills ample time to get their substitutions into the game and set up their defense, per NFL rule 5.2.10, in which the NFL considers a “simulated” substitution like a normal substitution.

The touchdown also should not have counted because when a player is so far in the backfield, as Hughes was, officials are supposed to whistle the play dead and assess the penalty. But they let the play stand.

Hijo Del Helmsley posted:

As a fan of a team who started out bad, then got promising, then are back to being bad,

The Raiders, right now, are proving a good offense means nothing if you don't also have a good defense. There was a gap where it looked like we might make the playoffs as wildcard, now finishing 5-11 seems pretty likely.

Popy posted:

non-evil teams are the cards, panthers, packers, and all of the AFC but steelers.

NC-17 posted:

Inadvertent whistle may have been a ref getting scared:

Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:

you guys do not use the word fraud nearly as well as the guy you picked it up from

Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:

you guys do not use the word fraud nearly as well as the guy you picked it up from

Manoueverable posted:

The only team that really fits the definition of fraudulent is the Falcons tbh

I get that everyone is calling the Hawks fraudulent because of where the term comes from but we've been playing bad all season - even the Bears game wasn't convincing - so there wasn't really any point in the season where we could've been considered a good team despite what the pundits say (plus playing like poo poo this season was extremely loving predictable to boot)

NC-17 posted:

Well it's hard to argue they were wrong when you look at who the hell Cam is throwing to and how easier their early schedule was.

Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:

Does anyone else remember when we had six 6-0 teams and everyone with any sort of platform, written, spoken, online, or otherwise, to talk about football, said that the biggest fraud of the 6 was the Panthers and the one most likely to go undefeated was the Atlanta loving Falcons because of their schedule lmfao

Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:

It's actually exceptionally easy to argue they were wrong, all you have to do is sit down at a computer with someone, type in nfl.com in your favorite web browser, and click on the standings tab, then shove the monitor at them like a pie in the face

The Big Jesus posted:

Backyard football -> streetball
Surprisingly mobile -> underrated passer
Sending a picture of his tiny gray weiner to Jen Sterger -> Two years, no parole.

Soothing Vapors posted:

So where are all those guys from last night's GDT who explained how we were all idiots and Watkins was clearly down inbounds now that Steratore's explanation was more or less psychotic and everyone with officiating experience in the known universe has said the opposite

Intruder posted:

Wait were there really people in the GDT saying Watkins was down in bounds? I wasn't following it last night

fsif posted:

Yeah, but it was because they were mixing it up with the college rule.

quote:

Steratore’s explanation sounds good, but the source said Steratore was just covering for Walker, who is in his second NFL season and used to officiate in the Pac-12.

The source said Walker mistakenly applied the college rule instead of the NFL rule. Just because Watkins went backward does not mean he gave himself up as a runner; running sideways or backward is still considered trying to “advance” the football. For the runner to surrender himself, he has to truly give up on the play — such as when a quarterback slides before taking a hit.

“In the NFL, the way it’s always been officiated is if a guy gets out of bounds, you give it to him and stop the clock,” the source said. “But he called it like the college rule. I’m not sure he knew the NFL rule.”