PT6A posted:

How do you get up to 10KLOC in a single class unless your design is extremely subpar?

piratepilates posted:

What do people mean when they say they test for team fit? It's been a while since I went for interviews and I don't remember much about seeing if I fit in to a team. What would that even be? Making sure the person isn't an rear end in a top hat, or expecting everyone to be wearing suits at the company?

ChickenWing posted:

This is not ameliorated by the fact that my first real dev job was at a bank that used SVN, and so sometimes just pulling would break everything to the point that I'd just wipe everything and start from scratch.

My Rhythmic Crotch posted:

You may remember me as the guy with the boss everyone hated.

Some of his bad habits have rubbed off on the underlings, resulting in a Serious Fuckup in production on Friday. Fridays are big for us, we generally don't touch production, as we want all our systems and automation to run over the weekend without issue. The coworker in question was developing on the production

Pollyanna posted:

We got $1 lottery tickets as Christmas presents.

Pollyanna posted:

We are Tools, and we Get poo poo On By Management.

Pollyanna posted:

_{why is the button all the way over there now aaargh}

necrobobsledder posted:

A lot of software development is pretty much just business plumbing

Iverron posted:

What if you've never had QA despite much protest and still have quarterly meetings about "reducing bugs" anyway?

Pollyanna posted:

I'm sorry but for my own sanity it's time to , this is awful. Question is whether or not to try and hold out till I get my yearly bonus.

Mezzanine posted:

Anything either in the Orlando area, or remote.

Pollyanna posted:

Work's now scheduling the two-day "lock-everyone-in-a-hotel-conference-room-and-make-them-code-our-website" codeathons in a city 2~3 hours away from me for twice a month now until the site gets deployed. Still no word on how we're compensated for the hotel rooms.

Pollyanna posted:

I've wondered if I'm just too sensitive to bullshit

Mezzanine posted:

Yeah I have about 5 years of experience with both iOS (not recently as much, so I need to brush up on Swift) and Android. Web stuff is mostly Rails and various JS frameworks, PHP for backend, y'know. All of my professional experience in Japan, though, so I know basically nothing about Agile and such, which would probably be a big handicap when coming onto a team over here.

Mezzanine posted:

Well, drat... right now my gross is around 40~50, so as long as it's not that low I could probably stomach it.

sunaurus posted:

sarehu posted:

In other words "I have opinions but they're religious and I can't articulate them on a rational basis."

B-Nasty posted:

My favorite PTO plan I've had is at my current (not for long) employer: 22 PTO (first year, more at 3yrs); available at the start of the year, no carryover (except special exclusions), no payout, and you must take 5 consecutive days at some point in the year.

I like that approach because it encourages everyone to use their PTO. There's no incentive to "bank it", and I don't have to do dumb accrual calculations to determine how many days I have available at any given point.

Keetron posted:

Lesson learned: nobody can work on anything that is not in git, ever. If someone is not a teamplayer and willing to share, fire them immediately. If management won't do that, either ignore the problem and end up like a boiled frog or leave.

HardDiskD posted:

*tugs collar*

ToxicSlurpee posted:

But can I pay to win?

Pollyanna posted:

The highest three officers/managers in our organization got fired today.

curufinor posted:

Last job, at a tiny little startup, I expensed a box to sit in with laptop.

Che Delilas posted:

They're also putting us right next to customer support, because when they can't figure something out it's too much of a burden to walk 50 feet to the other side of the building to talk to one of the devs (or, you know, send an email or talk to us via Slack which we all have). What's that? Constant ringing phones with no walls or distance to mitigate the sound at all are a nightmare for the devs? gently caress YOU.

They actually pushed for everyone using a single monitor because "more monitors isolate you." Dev department head had to kick and scream to get them to back off on that so we probably aren't even going to be able to arrange ourselves in own section the way we want. Shoulder-to-shoulder in the center of the room, basically, and if they don't let us rearrange it ourselves then I'm probably just gone at that point.

There's no reason to ignore the devs' input on the layout (especially in our own section, jesus gently caress) this completely if they want us to do actual work. I'm more than half convinced it's pure theater, they're going to bring in some money that thinks they know what a small development company should look like and try to get us bought.

God I'm so pissed.

Che Delilas posted:

Right now? It's interesting work, they're flexible about hours (meaning both that we can start & end the day when we want AND they don't bitch about a less-than-40-hour-workweek), we have choices about what we work on (meaning who takes which feature and we can decide to inject our own work into the schedule if it's something we need to do or will help us), all of my co-workers including my direct boss are pretty great people, we can work from home when we feel like it, and the office is an environment that's generally conducive to getting poo poo done.

Che Delilas posted:

Lot of bad tech companies out there though, which is why I have been content (don't believe I used language that implied I was delighted with them) to stay where I am. But again, dark clouds on the horizon.

Portland Sucks posted:

Last summer I picked up an internship with a pretty large raw material manufacturing company in their R&D department. I worked as an intern under one of their senior EE's who is more or less their senior systems guy. The whole R&D group is comprised of engineers, a few PhD chemists, and engineering technicians. The guy I worked for and his colleague make up what is essentially their systems automation/data analysis/DBA/etc... shop that supports the efforts of the rest of the R&D staff as well as automation in the production environment.

I ended up getting a full time offer that I accepted on at the beginning of the year. The compensation is great for my area, and I feel like I'm a good fit for the culture at the company.

With that being said, I'm the first full time CS major they've hired and, according to the executive of our department, will probably not be the last. This essentially puts me in a position of being able to sort of build our development shop's operations (obviously with some oversight from my boss) and the prospect is a little overwhelming. As it stands the two guys that I worked with during my internship have for the last 10 years or so managed all of their own servers/DBs/code by just sort of picking the simplest method and sticking with it. No version control, no differentiation between production and development environments. Typically their problems have been solved by justifying new hardware/software purchases through the department budged and just throwing money at it until it works.

I'd like to be able to come in with a loose framework of a plan to at least develop a system that I can work under and once we start hiring more CS people (they've already been given approval to hire another summer intern) expand upon.

The primary things I know I'll be doing on a regular basis are data warehousing, web development for our data visualization platform, and C#/.NET application development for the labs. On top of that, during the interview process our department executive wanted to stress that he is very interested in incorporating data mining/ML (he was heavy on the buzz words) into their processes. They recently spent a good deal on acquiring a SAS license.

This industry, and this company in particular, moves slow so I'm not stressed out about trying to wrangle all of this at the same time or within the first year. Likewise, I was told during the interview (and observed first hand during my internship) that the company very much treats their R&D staff as independent agents who are generally responsible for initiating their own projects and managing essentially a priority queue of requests from other R&D staff and production engineers.

As far as the data mining/ML thing goes I've taken a few stats classes, AI, data mining, and a natural language processing course and feel comfortable with the general concepts. I've been looking around at commonly used python libraries, MATLAB, and a few other options for building predictive models. We have a ton of data, but it is structured pretty poorly at the moment. From what I've read SAS seems to be on the decline, and is probably not actually cost effective at the stage we're at right now (ground zero)?


If anyone has any advice on setting up a development shop in an R&D environment, or generally working in an environment like this I'd greatly appreciate it.

Che Delilas posted:

Of course I can have better, but as I keep saying there's risk involved that so far I haven't been willing to take, how is that hard to understand?

JawnV6 posted:

Cool, he can totally stick it to those upper management types! Ha! Oh, and the folks he's been in the trenches with for months or years are going to suffer the loss, and if he can give them 4 weeks instead of 2 to cover ramping them up on his work he's not completely loving those colleagues who had nothing to do with the bad management. You seem to give a lot of advice for your relative level of experience, have you been the domain expert leaving a team short staffed? Can you relate specifics of that experience?

Clanpot Shake posted:

It's less a matter of my own genius and more the years of experience with a very complicated, undocumented system with loads of gotchas. Just last week a team implemented something incorrectly that cost us ~$100k - a lesson we learned years ago (back before the band broke up and cost a good bit less). Management is paying the price for new people to learn the same lessons we already learned, and that's on them.

One guy on my team is already aware I'll be leaving soon and I'm pretty sure he's also looking for the door, which leaves the company lifer and some recent team additions in different geographies without any expert domain knowledge. It's gonna be a rough time for them.

I can definitely relate to the feeling of relief after putting in notice. At my last place I went to a going-away thing for me and a couple other people and more than a few people remarked they had never seen me so happy.

Neco posted:

Okay now I am curious. Do workers in IT in the US usually get two / a few weeks' notice when they get fired and the employer doesn't absolutely have to (legally)? I guess I have only heard about gross misconduct where people are (understandably) fired on the spot.

Hughlander posted:

That's not the discussion point though. The discussion is the alleged state law that you have to keep fluid enough funds to payout 100% of the paid time off of 100% of the employees in case every last one quits the same instant. It's not about base payroll.

Bongo Bill posted:

Strategically, how would one start a programmers' union in the US?

Tactical Shitpost posted:

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/03/25/bay-area-tech-executives-indicted-for-h-1b-visa-fraud/:

Dirk Pitt posted:

Interactive rebase and force push changed my life. No more messy one line commit messages post code review.

Dirk Pitt posted:

I thought that pushing to feature branches was understood before a push to master. I am on a team with a few other senior devs and we trust each other to address comments in a code review, while still approving the work as a whole.

wilderthanmild posted:

I feel like I have no idea what agile really is, but I am pretty sure that most of the people I work with don't either. I guess we're supposed to have daily stand-up meetings, involve subject-matter experts and stakeholders in the process/meetings, and do incremental releases quite frequently. I don't think any of those things are happening.