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Marxalot
Dec 24, 2008

Appropriator of
Dan Crenshaw's Eyepatch

Cockmaster posted:

If someone is willing to risk being tortured and killed to get away from ISIS within 18 months of signing up, I think it's only reasonable to at least consider the possibility that they've seen the error of their ways.

At the absolute minimum, we should be rationally considering the circumstances of what attracted them to ISIS in the first place and what they personally did over there, rather than handing out mandatory minimum sentences willy-nilly.


Their version of Islam has less respect for the source material than Uwe Boll.


ftfy :3::hf::v:

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Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
why couldnt these dumb broads just get into One Direction like the other dumb broads and then wake up in 5 years going "what the hell was I even into?!? :xd:"

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

Cockmaster posted:


At the absolute minimum, we should be rationally considering the circumstances of what attracted them to ISIS in the first place and what they personally did over there, rather than handing out mandatory minimum sentences willy-nilly.


How do you quantify the harm caused to others by things like recruiting and propaganda? I guess we're about to see how the UK handles it in modern times.

Our framework is from the 20th Century. Tokyo Rose got imprisoned for radio broadcasts way back when but given the enormous reach the internet gives people and the sophisticated ways in which the IS recruits, should penalties be more lenient or more harsh now?

Should the totality of the circumstances matter much when you willingly aid and abet a criminal organisation, whether it's Mexican cartels or the IS? Should we judge them less harshly because they were influenced when we don't accept that as mitigation for more mundane offences?

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Josef bugman posted:

After they overthrew the bloke that Britain had put in who had taken over from the socialist guy in charge. That and betrayed the large socialist section because they could get away with it and won out in the aftermath of the overthrow of the Shahs regime. Then we get into a whole mass of internal problems and the fact that many of the larger (and younger) sections of the community don't like being international pariahs and not having any money.

But yeah, lets go with "singing the song Savages" from Disneys Pocahontas because we are unable to understand history and faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart.

originally it was the younger sections of the community who installed the theocratic rule

and there's no doubt that other people want to get away from this system it's just that the Iranian government has a tendency to kill these people when they protest for it.

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014

spacetoaster posted:

Granted. Many drug rehab programs now cannot afford to take care of as many people. Same with shelters and soup kitchens, etc, etc. The government uses it's new wealth to responsibly pick up the slack and efficiently and effectively run these programs (as it should be).

Next wish?

Should have no problem passing that revision to the tax code then. Political slam dunk.

Sethex
Jun 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
So that we get this thread back on the rails, here is a documentary done by BBC channel 4 about the women of ISIS in Britain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51nsdObM1Ok

Trigger warning Agag, pretty sure they call for death to all muslims like a dozen times in it.

ZombieParts
Jul 18, 2009

ASK ME ABOUT VISITING PROSTITUTES IN CHINA AND FEELING NO SHAME. MY FRIEND IS SERIOUSLY THE (PATHETIC) YODA OF PAYING WOMEN TO TOUCH HIS (AND MY) DICK. THEY WOULDN'T DO IT OTHERWISE.
that reporter is hot as gently caress!

Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002

The Taint Reaper posted:

originally it was the younger sections of the community who installed the theocratic rule

and there's no doubt that other people want to get away from this system it's just that the Iranian government has a tendency to kill these people when they protest for it.

Has there ever been a theocracy where the leaders didn't take liberties with the core principles of their religion for their own selfish ends?

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014

ZombieParts posted:

that reporter is hot as gently caress!

I wasn't going to watch the video until I saw this post.


Confirmed.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

She has really pretty eyes and nose

Universe Master
Jun 20, 2005

Darn Fine Pie

I always just assumed that girls thought they were joining a cult to the Egyptian goddess and then got very surprised.

Also, super hot reporter.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Being pragmatic, I imagine most IS defectors would be more use back home telling people how awful it is than they would be in prison. It's free propaganda and it's 100% true.

Non combatants only though, the rest can go gently caress themselves.

Noblesse Obliged
Apr 7, 2012

Strategic Tea posted:

Being pragmatic, I imagine most IS defectors would be more use back home telling people how awful it is than they would be in prison. It's free propaganda and it's 100% true.

Non combatants only though, the rest can go gently caress themselves.

I don't know about that. They'd probably stick their fingers into light sockets and drink poison from giant bottles with massive gently caress off skull and bones symbols when they're thirsty. We'd have to dedicate security people to keeping these retards alive from commonly known things like fire and jumping off buildings because you'd like to go down to the street

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





+1 for cutie pie reporter

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

abigserve posted:

Kramer: jerry, you gotta help me

Jerry: Why what is it?

K: I'm in over my head with these isis people jerry, at first I thought I agreed with their world view but the next thing you know VRRRRRRRROOT! No more pig meat.

George: Pig meat? Like, pork?

K: ANY MEAT FROM A PIG, george, and you know if I can't eat pork I'm not kramer. I've got three brides at home and I can't THINK straight!

G: Hey what part of the pig is bacon?

J: The bacon glands.
*Kramer starts stuffing deli meats into his mouth*

J: Look at this you're getting sausage all over my counter!

K: Mmthelp me jherry! HELPTH ME *sausage and spittle is everywhere*

J: I'm afraid I'm allah out of ideas.

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FrankeeFrankFrank
Apr 21, 2005

Say word son.

ZombieParts posted:

that reporter is hot as gently caress!

All praise is due to Allah!

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