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Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
"WHY OPEN A NEW THREAD? IT ALWAYS ENDS UP BADLY!?".
Well, we need the thread. These are discussions that we have in other threads, and these are discussions goons love to have. We can't really be without a cop thread, even if we can't be with a cop thread.

:cop: In this thread, let's wrangle about everything related to Law Enforcement, good and bad. :cop:
:cumpolice:

DON'T loving METAPOST ABOUT poo poo PLEASE poo poo gently caress. NO loving FIGHTING ABOUT PEDANTRY.

Be it reforms that are not working, that are working, horrible abuses, good practices, US cops and international cops, whatever pertains to the concept of a "system by which some members of society act in an organized manner to enforce the law by discovering, deterring, rehabilitating or punishing persons who violate the rules and norms governing that society."

:patriot:While this will surely be mostly about the bad sides of Law Enforcement in the United States, don't let that stop you. Law Enforcement in the US kills more, fires more bullets and loses more officers than any civilized nation in the world, both absolutely and per capita. It offers plenty to talk about. In addition, the sentences in the United States are most draconian when pretty much compared to any other nation in the world. Only western nation to practice regular death penalties and to have life sentences without parole, despite most of the world having a life sentence of where only a small portion of it is spent behind bars. While prison reform is its own thread, Law Enforcement ties directly into it too and thus can't be separated from the discussion. While many are horrified by some of the abuses in Law Enforcement in the US, many more believe everything to be well in their black-white worldview where evil people get what they deserve and good people aren't affected. Reforming the police can be hard if the majority see nothing wrong with it.:patriot:


Here we can also discuss about the amount of force that should be necessary in policing, be it US mag-dumps or EU limb shots :getin: Or perhaps creating a police force like in the UK where routine officers do not carry nor are they trained to use firearms.
We can talk about the firearms the police use, what boots they use and how horrible some of the acquisitions for small time departments are and how rife with corruption and handshakes they are.
Or we can talk about Amsterdam Police in Netherlands putting up signs telling that people buying drugs should be more careful since a new batch is found dangerous.



Because there are all kinds of goons from nerds to gals, from kiddy twiddlers to federal agents, from farmers to fighter pilots, so do we have Cop Goons. You can ask them questions here in the Ask a Cop Goon thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3710350&perpage=40
Don't try to bring debate and discussion there or you might be met with hostility, drunkenness and lewd behavior. Humor is harsh, but if you have a legit question, odds are you'll get an answer very fast in an informative manner.



Things going on with conviction of cops that fall out of line

-South Carolina Trooper Sean Groubert, shot a black manman in the hip for no apparent reason. Trial date still pending, but is fired and employed as a truck driver. The man he shot got paid by the State Insurance Reserve, and is possibly making a full recovery.

-South Carolina, North Charleston Officer Michael Slager, shot a black man in the back multiple times and planted a taser. Awaiting trial in Charleston County Detention Center Isolation, along with White Supremacist SC Church Shooter Dylann Roof. Score is currently in Roof's favor.

- South Carolina, white ex-police chief pleaded guilty to misconduct in office in the 2011 shooting death of an unarmed black man and was sentenced to a year of home detention. Juries were hung about murder charges two times, so prosecutors proceeded another way. So in the end, it ends up being a decent outcome.

- Maryland, Baltimore. Freddie Gray is dead, and the six officers are still pending trial. Nothing worthwhile is happening right now.

- Cleveland, Ohio. Officer Tim Loehmann who shot Tamir Rice is still awaiting the decision if he will be charged. Earlier prosecutor commissioned reports sided with him, but the newest does not. Officer Loehmann was recommended to not be a police officer by his own superiors.

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Good things related to American Law Enforcement.

San Antonio trains officers to handle mental illness calls differently.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/201...ontent=20140819

quote:

It's almost 4 p.m., and police officers Ernest Stevens and Ned Bandoske have been driving around town in their unmarked black SUV since early this morning. The officers are part of San Antonio's mental health squad — a six-person unit that answers the frequent emergency calls where mental illness may be an issue.

The officers spot a call for help on their laptop from a group home across town.

We had absolutely no training 20 years ago in the police academy on how to deal with mental health disturbances.
- Ernest Stevens, San Antonio police officer
"A male individual put a blanket on fire this morning," Stevens reads from the blotter. "He's arguing ... and is a danger to himself and others. He's off his medications."

A few minutes later, the SUV pulls up in front of the group home. A thin 24-year-old sits on a wooden bench out back, wearing a black hoodie.



FBI Director said publicly things that many americans need to hear. Naturally, he is already a race baiter and a traitor and a supporter of thugs.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/12/politics/police-race-relations-james-comey/

quote:

FBI Director James Comey took on the issue of police and race relations Thursday challenging police to avoid "lazy mental short-cuts" that can lead to bias in the way they treat blacks and other minorities.

While he asked minority communities dealing with issues of high crime to also recognize the inherent dangers officers face in trying to keep them safe, Comey was also critical of the history law enforcement in the country, which he described as "not pretty," but also the racial tensions have plagued American society as a whole.




And in other news, Richmond CA has tried another approach to police reform, helping people prone to crime instead of punishing them, and it seems to be working.

http://richmondpulse.org/in-a-relationship-with-the-richmond-police-department/

quote:

In the past decade, the police department in Richmond, Calif. has undergone a dramatic transformation. Spearheaded by an openly-gay and white chief in charge of policing this largely African American and Latino city, the changes are now bearing fruit, with crime down and trust between officers and the residents they are meant to protect on the rise. As departments nationwide look for ways to improve community ties in the wake of police killings in Ferguson and New York, Richmond stands as a promising template.

Richmond’s police department is undergoing something of a renaissance these days, thanks in part to decades of reform that have moved the department from its longstanding enforcement-driven model to one that focuses more on building trust with the public.

That transformation was thrust into the spotlight in December when an image of Chris Magnus, Richmond’s white, openly gay police chief, went viral, stirring a national response. In the image, Magnus is seen holding a “#BlackLivesMatter” sign while in full uniform at a demonstration against police brutality. The demonstration followed the acquittal of a white police officer in the killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri.



Finally, enjoy police officers from countries where Police Services don't use grooming standards.






Some lighter policing, here is this Lithuanian Police TV series showing a drunk or off-meds American girl threatening Lithunian cops with World War 3. It's loving hilarious.

"Even though the girl asked help from the United Nations, she was escorted to the hospital by regular police officers."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53gAFuE0FwQ

Subtitled.

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Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
No, Fringe, no. SOmeone please ban him.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
Anybody who proclaims to love the constitution has no idea what it means, or how it works. It's a fever dream, an abstract concept.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
Dem leg shoootzzz



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nDJ1MmyDNfs

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
I've never encountered legshots as lesslethal doctrine. They've always been deadly force.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
Never heard of an arm shot being practiced.

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Vahakyla
May 3, 2013


More shots fired and more bystanderd injured in Empire State shooting by NYPD than whole Denmark in a year, yet less intended targets hit.

Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Dec 7, 2015

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