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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Pred1ct posted:

Kevin Andrews, our not long gone defence minister has belched out some garbage on The Spectator.

In particular he makes praise of the novel Le Camp des Saints, a story of immigrants coming to Europe and destroying western civilization. And what sort of tone does this book have?
He's not the only Australian conservative who likes the book (and again).

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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Starshark posted:

Can we just skip the 'genocide' phase and go straight to 'being occupied by a foreign power until we learn to stop being dipshits'?

This whole mess started because Australia was occupied by a foreign power.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Birb Katter posted:

13.5% swing against Libs at North Sydney by-election. Labor didn't even run a candidate.

Solemn Sloth posted:

That probably helped with the swing

Yup.

The member before Hockey was Ted Mack, who was a popular local independent and prominently backed the independent candidate who came in second (Stephen Ruff). It's literally never been won by Labor, and the drop in the Liberal primary vote is as much to do with there being a more palatable alternative as anything else.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

TheIllestVillain posted:

fruit does not belong in chocolate

chocolate coated cranberries say you're wrong

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

SynthOrange posted:

Ambassador Joe Hockey ahahaha

I support moving Joe Hockey as far away from Australia as possible.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

EXAKT Science posted:

So Tones is the Aussie answer to Trump?

Trump has a bully's charisma and showmanship, whereas Abbott generally looked pretty awkward unless he was in full attack mode. Their personal histories have basically no similarities either.

I guess they both like talking about how attractive their daughters are?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
If only Australia had an eccentric billionaire who spent shitloads of his own money to get into politics running as an outsider candidate...

But sadly we don't, so Abbott is clearly the most Trump-like figure we have.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

EXAKT Science posted:

Who's the Kermit-looking dude?

Greg Hunt, which is surprisingly not rhyming slang for "oval office".

He literally wrote a thesis on the implementation of an emissions trading scheme, so some people considered it a bit hypocritical that he was the environment minister for a government that tore down the ETS.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

QUACKTASTIC posted:

Hahaha how have I never seen this one before.

It's from mid-2011, which might explain it. I found it on his twitter account when I was looking for how he'd previously caricatured Hunt.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

open24hours posted:

You have to admit Trump is very good at getting people who hate him to pay for his advertising.

On some level the networks love him because viewership for the debates are at record highs.

Laserface posted:

Im not following the US election stuff at all. is it actually looking like Trump is going to be elected? surely they arent that stupid?

It's not like electing Cruz, Rubio, Carson, Bush or literally anybody on that list would be smart.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

thatbastardken posted:

I wanna know how it feels to spend US $2.7m and get literally nothing.

Graham's a Khorne Bloodthirster, he is just happy to tell people how awesome war is.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

hooman posted:

Ah yes, the very large and much coveted muslim vote at a whopping 2.2% of Australians.

Nah mate, it's about 20%.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
This is a good way to view Leak's work.

gay picnic defence posted:

Imagine the poll bounce when Trump starts throwing a bit more money at advertising.

He doesn't need to.

The far more interesting and concerning thing is that he's actually spending money on a ground game; if he was just doing this as a book selling / trolling he wouldn't need to bother with that.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

adamantium|wang posted:

The LNP executive has blocked Ian MacFarlane's defection to the National Party.

Hahahaha, suck poo poo.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

EXAKT Science posted:

Would someone please explain the process of switching party allegiance and also who Ian MacFarlane is?

The Coalition is a formal agreement between two parties: the Liberals and the Nationals. At the Federal level the Liberals are by far the dominant party, but they make certain concessions to the Nationals because they need their votes; this includes things like the Deputy PM being the head of the Nats. A certain number of ministries go to the Nats too.

When Turnbull took over he dropped Macfarlane from the ministry. Macfarlane wasn't a particularly terrible minister (and actually supported Turnbull in the leadership change), but he was seen as being a bit too much of the Howard-era old guard, and Turnbull wanted some fresh faces. Macfarlane decided to defect to the Nats (possibly with some accomplices), which would increase their numbers to the point where they'd be allocated another ministry. Naturally he would get that ministry.

Except the whole thing blew up in his face because people don't like you gaming the system for your own end, especially when you do it so openly.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
I'm not sure if he left the Libs or just got approval (from his local branch) to do so.

He's going to retire or be forced to though.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
It's going to be funny when a Macfarlane retires, and a Nat gets preselected, forcing a reshuffle anyway.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
He's also a pretty decent painter, but you wouldn't know it from his editorial cartoon work.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
MLP:FiM is out at 1pm today, so we get to see exactly how deep in the toilet the budget is.

it's past the u-bend

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Shut up.

What this thread actually believes.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

The Guardian posted:

Here are your key points, via my colleague Lenore Taylor.
  • budget deficit blows out by $26bn over four years since May budget
  • growth forecasts downgraded to 2.5 per cent in 2015/16 (from 2.75 per cent in May Budget) and 2.75 per cent (from 3.25 per cent)
  • assumed growth in 2017/18 and 2018/19 is now 3 per cent not 3.5 per cent
  • iron ore price now assumed to be $39 a tonne rather than $48
  • return to surplus now projected one year later in 2020-21
  • net debt higher and peaking one year later – in 2017-18
  • key savings include $1.3bn from welfare fraud by data matching between the tax office and centrelink, $650mn by ending bulk billing incentives for pathology and cutting other bulk billing incentives and $534 from payments to aged care providers
  • these offset spending including the $1.1bn innovation statement, another $400mn for asylum seekers waiting for processing in Australia, $909 mn to pay for the special intake of Syrian refugees and an extra $300mn for roads

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Anidav posted:

Lmao the budget drops a few more billion and all they can do is CRACKDOWN ON WELFARE MATE.

It's just extending a planned crackdown too.

quote:

The new cuts include $650m over four years through changes to bulk-billing incentives. The government says it will remove incentives for pathology services and reduce the incentive for MRI services. It says it will align incentives for diagnostic imaging services to the ones that apply to GP services, with incentives continuing to apply for patients with concession cards and children under 16.

Morrison is also banking on $1.3bn by expanding the welfare payment integrity measure announced in the last budget, which was already slated to achieve $1.7bn. The government says the new measure will focus on recovering money from a greater number of people where discrepancies exist between the employment income they declare to Centrelink and the “pay as you go” information provided to the tax office.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Birdstrike posted:

lol myefo "let's improve integrity measures," cuts back enforcement spending

down lieberal scum

It really feels like they are just hoping the economic situation improves rather than actually doing anything about it.

Again.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
The China FTA is costing us 4.2B in lost tariffs, but this will be offset by the ??? in additional revenue.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Amethyst posted:

Most hostage takers are terrorists unless they're trying to rob a bank or whatever.

If you think terrorism has to have a political element to it, no.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Amethyst posted:

Uh that's what I was saying. Duh.

Yeah, and "most hostage situations are terrorism, assuming you ignore most hostage situations" seemed like a pretty loving dumb thing to say.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Amethyst posted:

The raw numbers argument again. Piss off with that dull poo poo. It's hardly a revelatory gotcha

"Most hostage-taking terrorists are terrorists" is a glib, pointless tautology rather than an actual argument about whether and why he was a terrorist.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Amethyst posted:

lmfao. Good faith poo poo my man.

"Most people who take hostages are terrorists, unless they aren't" is a dumb thing to say, because it's essentially a tautology but also because the weasel-word of 'most' suggests that hostage-taking is related to terrorism far more frequently than not, which is clearly not true in Australia. How should I engage with that in good faith?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Recoome posted:

I don't agree with the breeding part. The problems aren't racial, they are ideological. If, for example, one can breed with a Muslim woman and raise the children non-Muslim, then that is removing those potential Muslims from being born (as they would be if the male were Muslim), while creating more non-Muslims. If the partner and children are treated well and educated in both Arabic and Western culture, they can further intermingle and more easily convert other Muslims, while making reproduction with western males look more appealing to other Muslim women. (How could it not be more appealing than marrying an oppressive Muslim male?) Take their women, and you take their reproductive capacity. Mohammed understood this, as do the Muslim invaders of Europe...

Don't you have a doco to work on Andrew?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
There's a budget to go before the election.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
The review of QandA is in.

Some of the findings
  • The program has a slight tendency to criticise the government of the day, rather than any specific anti-Coalition bias.
  • There is a low representation of women, partly (but not completely) because the Coalition doesn't have enough women MPs to represent it.
  • It should broadcast from outside (inner-) Sydney more often.
  • To be more representative the panel should have more Greens and Independents, and more conservative foreign guests. Also the panel should be slightly younger, and the audience slightly older.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

MonoAus posted:

How does the audience effect the content of the program?

Sorry, specifically the (studio) audience who asks questions.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

meteor9 posted:

What the crap is RTPDS

Rio Tinto.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

MonoAus posted:

Of course, duh. For some reason I understood it as television audience and was thinking it was some criticism of the content of tweets or something.

They did have some comments on the tweets too. Sadly the recommendation wasn't "don't".

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Mr Chips posted:

What's the relationship between the two? If you sort the AFR list by income, Rio Tinto Ltd is just below RTPDS, and Rio Tinto Ltd is supposed to have paid 3.05B tax on 10.705B income. RTPDS' ABN is 21099346899, but I don't have access to the paid ASIC results.
I was just going based on the results of a bunch of google searches that had people with links between the two (common board members etc), and one page that showed that one owned the other. Could be misinformation or a coincidence.

E: And a director's report from 2013.

Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Dec 17, 2015

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Solemn Sloth posted:

So has NSW addressed the issue of insurance when they legalised Uber? Or just going to wait until the first big crash and let the driver and his insurance company fight it out in court?

Vaguely related: we bought car insurance yesterday and there was a "are you using the vehicle for ridesharing?" option in the form.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

gay picnic defence posted:

Is it legalised over there now? I hadn't heard. The taxi industry must be making GBS threads itself.
The announcement was made today.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
The old "give us more money or we'll invite left-wing panelists onto our shows" racket.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Solemn Sloth posted:

I'm pretty happy that the liberals are going with a full throated defence of companies earning billions of dollars and paying zero tax.

If we cut company tax then fewer companies would try and avoid it. It's simple economics mate.

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Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

KennyTheFish posted:

what happened in 1971?

The two data points are 1972 and 1977, so possibly Medicare in 1975?

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