Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating
Funny, I dont remember Clive telling Tones to kill himself.

https://vine.co/v/O0XVqHpXOYj

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating
Kevin Andrews, our not long gone defence minister has belched out some garbage on The Spectator.

In particular he makes praise of the novel Le Camp des Saints, a story of immigrants coming to Europe and destroying western civilization. And what sort of tone does this book have?

Wikipedia posted:

In 2001 the Southern Poverty Law Center described it as "widely revered by American white supremacists and is a sort of anti-immigration analog to The Turner Diaries,"

http://new.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/the-camp-of-the-saints-part-ii/

quote:

Forty years ago, the French author, Jean Raspail, wrote a confronting novel about a third world invasion of Europe.

His chilling book, Le Camp des Saints (The Camp of the Saints), tells the story of a motley armada of clapped-out vessels transporting hundreds of thousands of people from the Ganges, via the African Cape, eventually landing in Southern France. Their journey presages the overturn of western civilization.

Dismissed as bizarre, far-fetched and racist by the political, media and academic elite that Raspail criticised, his novel was consigned to the dustbin of eccentric curiosities by the literary establishment.

How could Europe be invaded: we, with our superior technology and advanced way of life?

Fast-forward four decades and Europe has been invaded. By unarmed thousands, sailing by boat, and then trekking across borders. Raspail’s title could well describe the settlements that have sprung up across the continent.

The Camp of the Saints can be read as an allegory about Europe. Although the details differ, Raspail’s story sounds more like a parable now than the fictional tale by which it was dismissed.

Today the West is at war. The war has been declared many times: in New York, Madrid, London, Bali, and Paris, as well as in Sydney and Melbourne and numerous other places around the world. It is not a traditional war, but a war it is.

Some of the most ferocious and barbarous of the attacks have been on the home of liberté, égalité, fraternité.

Claim your gift
This is a direct assault on the culture of the West – its character, its values and its beliefs.

Words of obfuscation and appeasement are hollow. Politicians who continue to mouth platitudes while appearing to wring their hands are unworthy of the trust placed in them.

Yet many of the European elite subscribe to a caricature of their civilization – a multicultural, borderless world, welcoming of everyone, for whom any residual problems can be treated by a sanctimonious dose of post-Christian kumbuya.

The answer in Brussels to any problem is to prescribe more rules, more regulation and more process. None of this has prevented the Belgian capital becoming the breeding ground of terrorism in Europe.

Meanwhile, the foundations of Europe are cracking.

The birthrate in much of Europe has fallen to dangerously low levels. Without immigration, countries like Italy, Spain and Portugal will see their population halve each generation.

These low levels are almost impossible to recover. They have a significantly adverse impact on economic growth. And they create a demographic vacuum that others will seek to fill.

Europe is even losing the willingness to acknowledge its own history and culture.

A decade ago, the European nations could not agree to the recognition of their Christian heritage in a proposed constitution.

Most European nations could not defend themselves without considerable assistance from others. Even the once mighty United Kingdom struggles to expend 2 per cent of GDP on defence.

Is it any wonder that the nation that produced Michel Foucault, Jacques Derrida and the other deconstructionists, for whom shared meaning is an anathema, is now in the firing line from sections of an immigrant population that has a clear and contrary ideology?

While the final coup de grâce of a civilisation is delivered by external forces, it is the internal corrosion that makes it possible.

Unless Europe recovers a belief in the foundations of its own culture, a preparedness to articulate it, and a willingness to defend it, militarily when necessary, it is doomed to a gradual but inevitable decline.

Je suis Charlie? Je suis mort.

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating
A little while back the middle eastern states were increasing production to push out the US producers, as the unconventional wells being used in the US have higher production costs. A large amount of wells are sitting stagnant until the return on investment picks up.

I've heard that newer extraction methods have decreased the cost somewhat, so maybe it's a response that.

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating

SKY COQ posted:

So the ABC have commissioned a documentary about indigenous recognition - starring one Andrew Bolt.

"balance"

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating

Birb Katter posted:

Today, about 50 supporters of a self-described patriots organisation gathered near the suburb's sand dunes for the meal, which included a pig on a spit-roast.

...

Speaking at the barbecue, Mr Folkes criticised the court's decision.

"When you do speak up today, and you're a patriot and you love your country, the political establishment and those useful idiots on the left think there's something wrong," he said.

"It's not just people here, there's millions of Australians that feel the same."

Riiiiight.

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating

Doctor Spaceman posted:

If we cut company tax then fewer companies would try and avoid it. It's simple economics mate.

Given that there are companies only willing to pay 2% tax, I wonder if the neo-liberals who subscribe to this theory think this would be an acceptable tax rate.

Company tax will now be like that Radiohead album, just pay what you feel like.

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating

freebooter posted:

Actually isn't there a fairly well known brans still operating on Howard era Workchoices poo poo which means their employees don't get penalty rates? Bunnings or something? It was a household name.

I remember Nandos came up in this thread before as an example. I believe that was something to do with the workforce never having transferred from individual contracts to an EBA (and management making sure that never happens...).

Laserface find out what's in the Award for your industry as a first step, as that should be the legal minimum.

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating
I approve of Mick Malloy




How can we put a Christmas spin on our usual bigoted fear-mongering, asks the Daily Mail

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating

quote:

Meanwhile, international news agencies from the BBC to Time magazine,have reported on the campaign. It also sparked some 25 parody videos that have been viewed almost 100,000 times.

"The videos have truly gone viral," said the S&S spokesman who added: "The unexpected global media attention is now providing a platform for parents and teenagers all over the world to have 'the conversation' about cannabis in an engaging way."

Actually, these videos and memes parodying our campaign are good. I find it funny that you think we are being mocked, what with all this media exposure which we are receiving, all of which is good by the way.

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating
Also the 'reasoning' behind abolishing penalty rates is always that they are destroying hard working mum & dad run businesses (or at least that's how the BCA sell it).

Emergency services are paid by taxpayers and aren't subject to a profit model, so I reckon they'll argue that it's a different ballgame (at least until there is a further BUDGET EMERGENCY).

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating

open24hours posted:

They say they want to bring back the BCC. By the end of the year they'll probably control the Senate so Labor won't be able to do anything anyway.

Just to expand on this, the ABCC was created after a royal commission into the building industry (hmmmm....). The biggest issue was that as a regulator it had extraordinary powers of coercion, meaning you did not have a right to silence. This article gives a good example of the kind of action that can take place under such a body.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/even-bystanders-feel-building-watchdogs-bite/2007/12/14/1197568264669.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

quote:

He was an innocent witness to a minor scuffle, but he was interrogated for hours. The law forbids him from telling his story, and we cannot name him nor show his face. This is happening in Australia. Andrew West reports.

THE bystander was a mild-mannered academic from the University of Melbourne. Passing a building site on the Yarra's south bank, he witnessed a confrontation between a union official and a building manager. No punches were thrown but the two men pushed each other and grabbed at each other's shirts.

But agents of the federal building industry watchdog soon tracked the witness down and hauled him in for several hours of secret questioning, under powers that rival those of Australia's national security services.

The man cannot be named and cannot discuss the details of his interrogation for fear of imprisonment. Building unions say the innocent citizen's experience proves the Australian Building and Construction Commission is out of control, wielding powers greater than the police and equal to those of anti-terrorism bodies such as ASIO.

A spokeswoman for the commission confirmed it was the first time a bystander, not connected with a building company or a union, has been subjected to these powers. The legislation gives the commission the authority to question people - with or without a lawyer present - and overrides the right to silence. Witnesses cannot reveal the contents of the interview, even to their spouses, and risk up to six months in jail if they breach the law.

When contacted by the Herald, the witness declined to answer questions about his experience, saying only: "The laws governing

the building industry are not part of a country I want to live in. The powers are not in line with community expectations."

Professor Andrew Stewart, a former dean of Flinders University's law school and international expert in labour law, called the commission's powers "extraordinary, analogous to those of ASIO". "Ordinarily, under our laws, you have certain rights not to answer questions," he said. "You have privileges against self-incrimination. But these rights do not exist when you are being interviewed by the ABCC. That an innocent member of the public can get caught up in these powers simply increases the concerns."

Another legal expert, Professor Ron McCallum of the University of Sydney, calls some of the commission's powers "similar to aspects of the terrorism laws".

The commission's chief, John Lloyd, prefers to liken his agency's powers to those of the Australian Securities and Investments Commission or the Tax Office. He would not comment on this case but confirmed: "The legislation makes it clear that any person can be asked to attend to answer questions. We have to believe there is reasonable grounds for the witness to have either evidence or documents relevant to the investigation. But, yes, there is no restriction on the person or people we can issue a notice against."

Mr Lloyd initially insisted that co-operation with the commission was voluntary but conceded his agency could compel witnesses to attend interviews. He also defended the secrecy provisions for interviews. "The person who conducts the interview is entitled to give direction about the private nature of the process," he said.

The Howard government set up the commission after the 2001 Cole inquiry heard claims of corruption and violence in the building industry. No charges were ever brought against any union official as a result of the inquiry. Labor has agreed to scrap the commission by 2010, but the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union wants the Rudd Government to immediately trim its powers. Its national secretary, Dave Noonan, said: "The ABCC's star chamber represents the worst excesses of the current industrial laws, which the Australian people voted against. We don't think the Government should wait two more years to do something about this."

The commission's 2007 annual report says its 135 investigators questioned 52 people, including 16 without legal representation, in the previous 12 months. Of those interrogated, 47 were union officials or employees.

In the Melbourne case the witness saw the scuffle between a manager from Bovis Lend Lease and a union organiser. Mr Noonan says the manager had tried to interfere in an offsite meeting of workers. The organiser and the manager shoved each other but did not exchange blows. Almost four months later, police are yet to lay charges against either man.

  • Locked thread