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Tremblay
Oct 8, 2002
More dog whistles than a Petco

Your Dunkle Sans posted:

...But that has nothing to do with my question. :confused: I asked when and how, not why.

No one will be able to tell you with any real authority. Manufacturers would probably be in the best source based on units shipped.

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Tremblay
Oct 8, 2002
More dog whistles than a Petco

sebzilla posted:

These things would have not happened if there were no guns.

Poof all guns in the US disappear. Poof criminals have guns brought in from Mexico.

Tremblay
Oct 8, 2002
More dog whistles than a Petco

antiga posted:

Governor Malloy (CT) announced his intent today to ban gun sales to all persons on the federal no-fly list. You know, the list that is not regulated in any way whatsoever, doesn't require a criminal conviction, and is nigh impossible to be removed from. You're all one really bad internet comedy forum post from being banned from buying a gun in CT, ever.

http://www.courant.com/politics/hc-no-fly-list-connecticut-20151210-story.html
https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/until-no-fly-list-fixed-it-shouldnt-be-used-restrict-peoples-freedoms

Executive orders seem to be the flavor of the month for forcing through terrible ideas because they would never pass the legislative branch.

Well that's one way to burn money.

Tremblay
Oct 8, 2002
More dog whistles than a Petco

sebzilla posted:

Cops shoot homeless man with illegal Mexican guns? Non-specific argument people also have shipped in illegal guns for the purpose of shooting people who annoy them in the feet? Ok, fine, your country is hosed, continue shooting each other, it's probably for the best.

I'm sorry, did we pivot topics because you didn't like the rebuttal?

P.S. Poverty and the crime surrounding it are a large part of the reason police shootings happen in the first place.

Tremblay
Oct 8, 2002
More dog whistles than a Petco

waitwhatno posted:

That dude was legitimately insane from childhood or birth. You either support some form of gun control or you support his right to have guns. How can there be any middle ground here?

The challenge is defining criteria that should be used to disqualify a person from purchasing, getting that information into NICS in a timely fashion, doing so without violating that individuals privacy rights, and creating a process that works to get the hold removed after folks are healthy again. None of that is easy, and no one seems to want to tackle it.

In general getting records in to NICS in a timely, and correct manner seems to be an issue.

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Tremblay
Oct 8, 2002
More dog whistles than a Petco

Crazyeyes posted:

Privacy rights don't mean anything if the psych evaluator believes they are a risk to themselves or others. Situations such as "this person suffers from severe delusions and violent tendencies. If you give them a gun they very well may do something with it" should definitely count into that.

I don't necessarily disagree with you. However working on this kind of minutia no matter how helpful:

1. Doesn't rally the base
2. Doesn't make nice sound bites for politicians

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