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This is great. I do wonder what they would do if given more creative freedom though. Baby Metal was a creation by the label, and I think their music is dictated pretty much completely. (someone else writes their guitar track for example)
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May 10, 2016 22:14
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Probably be AV idols. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B2tjRv7IPo
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May 11, 2016 04:28
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Valicious posted:This is great. I do wonder what they would do if given more creative freedom though. Baby Metal was a creation by the label, and I think their music is dictated pretty much completely. (someone else writes their guitar track for example) Most likely end up as 'normal' J-pop idols. Talking about idols and j-pop. I remember having read something some time ago about the abysmal treatment that Korean pop artists in those big girl / boy bands receive from their managers and their label. About how they barely receive any money at all, are forced to live together in horrendous apartments, how if one of them ever gets a lover they will be publicly shamed and kicked out of the group. Is there a similar thing in the J-pop idol industry?
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May 11, 2016 16:07
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Pretty sure that Jpop idols are strongly discouraged from having relationships, and the business side of that particular niche of music is said to be chock full of Yakuza and pedos! So not all that different from the idol industry anywhere else.
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May 11, 2016 16:14
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I think Kyary, for example, has a lot more creative input in her music than most K-pop idols do, but in the case of, like, Morning Musume or AKB48 there's probably not much difference in how they're treated. The main difference between J-pop and K-pop, to my mind, though, is that the independent (non-idol) pop scene is MUCH more substantial and prominent in Japan. There's a couple K-pop indie stars, but I can't name nearly as many. The Singing Chav posted:Pretty sure that Jpop idols are strongly discouraged from having relationships, and the business side of that particular niche of music is said to be chock full of Yakuza and pedos! So not all that different from the idol industry anywhere else. Yep, and it's not just about female idols. The worst part of that case is that they have tremendous evidence against Kitagawa, but haven't done anything since he's rich and powerful. Not too different from America, but considering the scale of abuse the authorities are oddly nonchalant. I recall a source saying that lots of modern Visual Kei band members are male escorts, too, but I forget where I read that.
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May 11, 2016 22:16
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oS8bRM-f-c
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May 12, 2016 07:06
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 Anyone wanna buy some old school deadman? deadman - 苦悩の中の耐え難い存在
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May 13, 2016 07:17
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Anyone here up for one of my effortposts, this time about Japanese math rock/post-rock? Been very into that scene these last few days. Been especially digging Uchu Conbini's mix of midwest emo math rock with j-pop, pity they split up after only 1 album and 2 EPs. Also, these guys are nuts. It's like toe channeling Mick Barr. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw1LzdwEqTg Gamma Nerd fucked around with this message at 22:16 on May 13, 2016 |
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May 13, 2016 22:14
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Gamma Nerd posted:Anyone here up for one of my effortposts, this time about Japanese math rock/post-rock? Been very into that scene these last few days. Been especially digging Uchu Conbini's mix of midwest emo math rock with j-pop, pity they split up after only 1 album and 2 EPs. Do you like Ovum's newest album Nostalgia? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C4lZkCrL9Y
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May 16, 2016 13:59
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Gamma Nerd posted:Anyone here up for one of my effortposts, this time about Japanese math rock/post-rock? Been very into that scene these last few days. Been especially digging Uchu Conbini's mix of midwest emo math rock with j-pop, pity they split up after only 1 album and 2 EPs. These guys randomly followed my Soundcloud account. Pretty nice stuff. 130 likes on facebook... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzgjR-xvELw
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May 16, 2016 16:46
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TOUR94 posted:Do you like Ovum's newest album Nostalgia? You know, I skipped past them when I was listening to my math rock playlist. Thanks for the reminder, will check them out.
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May 29, 2016 04:53
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Cool event I thought you guys might like. We'll be streaming for a few hours. We are LIVE with Day 2 of our visual kei unboxing! Holy crap that's a lot of CDs, and they'll all be for sale later this month. Join us at https://www.hitbox.tv/rarezhut 
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Jun 8, 2016 20:29
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I kinda want to discover some more early 00's style pop-punk like Puffy, The Pillows, and BEAT Crusaders. I know of Shonen Knife but don't know where to start there
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Jun 15, 2016 06:42
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I've heard some really good sad depressing modern Japanese artists, and I want to find more. Suggest me please!
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Jun 15, 2016 14:50
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So someone uploaded this, rare acoustic live set https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_IJ0v1CsC4 Besson posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuWT57Zyctw Are/were they that big? I thought it was more of a small project from before Gesu took off baka kaba fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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Jun 16, 2016 14:03
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i've been listening to cornelius. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2xGMj7-UuY
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Jun 21, 2016 02:52
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Made a RYM list of some Japanese artists I like, feel free to use it as a resource.
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Jun 21, 2016 04:45
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Why apologize for liking Melt-Banana? 
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Jun 22, 2016 16:24
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i went on record a year or so ago as not liking them :v yasuko's vocals were too much for me.
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Jun 22, 2016 19:34
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Gamma: It's all your fault that I just ordered copy of Light Bringer's Scenes of Infinity. And when I say fault, I mean thank you for adding more wank filled J-Metal to my life. Edit: There are far too many other awesome sounding things on your list, but I only have so much money / room for CDs. Thanks for writing it all up. DroneRiff fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jun 22, 2016 |
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Jun 22, 2016 20:31
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Hell yeah, my dude  Also, man, the synth abuse is strong in this entire album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L847T9NnvkU
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Jun 24, 2016 19:37
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Welp, remember Especia, that vaporwave-y group? They're back from their hiatus after the graduation of 3 members and they're jazzy as gently caress. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nIWvgXiXyM There's a new member, Mia Nascimento. Seems to be Brazilian or something.
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Jun 26, 2016 04:49
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Just want to let ya know that Fuki (of Light Bringer, Unlucky Morpheus, DOLL$BOXX) did a new album under the name "Fuki Commune". ISAO (of Spark7 and Cube-ray) and Nozomu Wakai on guitars, Atsushi Hasegawa (of Gerard and Sound Horizon) on bass, and Light Bringer's keyboardist. Great lineup, mostly awesome tunes.Negrostrike posted:Welp, remember Especia, that vaporwave-y group? They're back from their hiatus after the graduation of 3 members and they're jazzy as gently caress. Yup, Brazil and Japan are pretty closely intertwined culturally. Is she related to Milton Nascimento by any chance?
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Jun 28, 2016 01:08
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Gamma Nerd posted:Yup, Brazil and Japan are pretty closely intertwined culturally. Is she related to Milton Nascimento by any chance? Couldn't find any info about her, really. Didn't see that coming, as a Brazilian myself. Though their last album has a collab with a Brazilian vaporwave musician.
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Jun 28, 2016 02:06
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baka kaba posted:
No just a few self released eps but they are so good. Related to the thread I'm listening to Blue Hearts and their first record is untouchable.
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Jun 29, 2016 11:08
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Anyone who likes Ling Tosite Sigure ought to check these guys out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ricbduE6nPM Also, Zazen Boys are pretty dope.
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Jul 2, 2016 03:11
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I am currently taking offers for this poster signed by everyone on UNDERCODE in 2012. It is in wonderful condition, and has a tiny pinhole in each corner
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Jul 7, 2016 01:22
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFmH7moCL2c
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Jul 24, 2016 09:40
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Ground Zero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INQIvD_utaM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrBoQLkZY2g holy poo poo
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Jul 25, 2016 15:46
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Don't know a ton of Japanese band's, to be honest ACID MOTHERS TEMPLE is probably the one band I actually know from JAPAN. Psychedelic rock at its awesomeness.
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Jul 25, 2016 19:00
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Japanese psych rock is pretty dope. There's about a hundred bands related to AMT, Fushitsusha, Les Rallizes Denudes and Boredoms, and lots of them are pretty prolific. Your tolerance for them will depend on how much you enjoy AMT's noisy side though. Definitely check out Tsurubami, they're basically an AMT side project that are so hazy and blown out that they resemble shoegaze at times. On the Boredoms side, Rovo and OOIOO are both awesome - the former is more electronic and trance-inducing, the latter are very diverse and often tribal. Angel'in Heavy Syrup and eX-Girl are also great.
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Jul 25, 2016 20:19
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Gamma Nerd posted:Japanese psych rock is pretty dope. There's about a hundred bands related to AMT, Fushitsusha, Les Rallizes Denudes and Boredoms, and lots of them are pretty prolific. Your tolerance for them will depend on how much you enjoy AMT's noisy side though. I'll definitely have to check them out. Thanks for helping me expand my music library Gamma Nerd!
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Jul 25, 2016 22:04
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RealFoxy posted:I kinda want to discover some more early 00's style pop-punk like Puffy, The Pillows, and BEAT Crusaders. I know of Shonen Knife but don't know where to start there Might as well go on and do a post since I had a list of stuff which I consider cool which hasn't been mentioned yet. Warning: this post is a clusterfuck of genres. The Pillows are an alternative rock group formed in 89. As of 2016 they've released like 20 full albums and lord knows how many singles. Here's a few of their old songs/albums because I stopped following them in like 2004 or so and thus haven't heard their last decade-plus of albums. Either way it's solid stuff. Their vocalist, Sawao Yamanaka has a label (Delicious label) which I'm going to reference directly below. Noodles are basically a three (formerly four) piece girl band that are on Delicious label, also have around two decades worth of stuff. They do shows with the Pillows a lot, as well as Yoko (the lead singer) and Sawao doing a lot of those one man live shows together. Anyways here's some of their old stuff. They have a lot of other great songs that you will never track down without buying their albums off like Yahoo! auctions but I can help if you get into them and have trouble finding stuff. Totally unrelated: Number Girl should have had more than a passing mention a couple of pages ago because they are very good and influenced a lot of later indies/post-rock/whatever groups. To quote Wikipedia: "Number Girl played fast, guitar-driven rock similar to the Pixies, Sonic Youth, and Hüsker Dü. ". Just hit these albums and see if you dig it or not. I know someone somewhere compared their sound to Mass of Fermenting Dregs and I can sort of see that in some places. If you click on one band in this post, it should be Number Girl. If you liked Number Girl then check out Zazen Boys as well which is a side project of their vocalist/guitarist with a more math rock edge. Other awesome stuff: Guitar Wolf. You want awesome garage rock, you get awesome garage rock. This stuff rules. They managed to pump out two hokey sci-fi feature-length movies and you should totally check those out if you get the chance. Thee Michelle Gun Elephant. Garage rock, self-described in an interview once as "motorcycle rock". Unsurprisingly, they have a bunch of songs about motorcycles. Pretty heavy and pretty awesome. And to cap it off in the most Japanese way possible, you can't have a Japanese music thread without talking about enka, so here's some enka I legit like: Yoshi Ikuzo. Dude rules. Tsugari Heiya, Musume ni, Youta, Yukiguni. If you can get past the sometimes-heavy Aomoriben it's pretty great. Maegawa Kiyoshi is pretty good too. Satorr posted:Shiina Ringo is one of the greatest Quoting this because it's true. Sheep fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Jul 30, 2016 |
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Jul 30, 2016 02:31
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Kiyohiko Senba and the Haniwa All Stars - Mizu Every instrument you can think of and then some gets a solo piece in this song. Some somewhat famous people have played in the orchestra; Coba, the accordionist, went on to play on a Bjork album, and Kazumi Watanabe, the second guitarist, played with YMO on their early tours and on the Thousand Knives of Ryuichi Sakamoto. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv2tS46rl1k
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Aug 5, 2016 05:22
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Hello, Japanese music thread! I've been really into Jun Togawa recently so I figured I'd share some of her stuff. Hers is a name you hear a lot when you like Japanese new wave and weirdo pop, but I never really looked into her until I heard her guest vocals on Vampilia's "The Divine Move." (Video is artsy-nsfw.) Jun Togawa began performing in the 80s ostensibly as an idol singer, but she's never really fit that mould. Her vocal range spans from a childish idol voice to a proto-Shiina Ringo rasp to operatic exaggeration, often all in the same song; her lyrics display a cynicism and preoccupation with existential literature that don't really play in idol Peoria. Her most famous song is probably "Suki Suki Daisuki," which has been covered several times. My favorite cover of it was recorded by BiSkaidan, a collaboration between anti-idol idol group BiS (who also appeared on "The Divine Move") and noise band Hijokaidan. Hijokaidan also recorded the song with Togawa herself, as Togawa Kaidan, incidentally. She's also fronted several bands, including Yapoos and Guernica. Yapoos is anthemic 80s-style pop, very much in a Susumu Hirasawa vein (in fact he's collaborated with Yapoos/Togawa quite frequently - Here he is performing two of my favorite Yapoos songs with them). Guernica is Showa As gently caress retro pop that'll teach you a bunch of outdated kana.
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Aug 8, 2016 02:47
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Yeah Jun Togawa is very much something else. The music is great but I get the impression that having a good knowledge of Japanese culture and understanding the lyrics contributes greatly to understanding what she's all about. She's worked with both Hosono and Hirasawa, who are IMO The Twin Gods of Japanese synth music. Sad she hasn't been up to much the last 25 years or so.
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Aug 9, 2016 19:00
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She's still doing some gigs here and there. Performed with Hijokaidan in February at Club Goodman in Akihabara. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXFskcJw4LY Negostrike fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Aug 9, 2016 |
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Aug 9, 2016 21:14
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If we're going to talk more about Hosono-produced early 80s pop, Miharu Koshi should be mentioned. Her early output is New Wave, but with heavy doses of chanson and traditional pop woven into the mix. She still releases albums, but they're more orchestral. Here's one of her early songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vijQLUBWVQU Hosono also produced Testpattern, who have a sort of proto-techno sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQAML1O65Rw Finally, we have Apogee and Perigee: Chojiku Korodasutan Ryokoki. Apparently, this was supposed to be a soundtrack album to a musical that told the story of the titular robots, although the musical was never produced. It features Jun Togawa, Miharu Koshi, Testpattern, Hosono himself, and the most melodramatic hard rock song in the history of humanity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbdI39u2tms
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Thanks for the recs/links!Serge Painsbourg posted:Finally, we have Apogee and Perigee: Chojiku Korodasutan Ryokoki. Apparently, this was supposed to be a soundtrack album to a musical that told the story of the titular robots, although the musical was never produced. It features Jun Togawa, Miharu Koshi, Testpattern, Hosono himself, and the most melodramatic hard rock song in the history of humanity. This is incredible and I'll have to see if my local rental place has a copy. It's weird, for the most part I've listened to less Japanese music since actually moving to Japan than I did when I was in school. I'm diving back in now that I've gone from Tsutaya's slim pickings to a rental place that has separate sections for The Stalin and solo Michiro Endo. (K2 Records in Nipponbashi if anyone is in the Osaka area.)
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