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Why can't they find any native Israeli spokespeople? It's always emigres from the US, UK, Australia, or people who fled Rhodesia and Apartheid Africa.
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https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1783779311062786269 I guess this Israeli crime was too horrific even for the Passive Voice Team at NBC to not mention who killed her.
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I have a question, actually, because I don't think it comes up in the news a lot. What's the situation with Israeli Arabs right now? Knowing Israel's policing practices and the rise of extreme anti-Arabic sentiment, I suspect a lot of them understandably prefer to lay low fearing persecution rather than participate in protests or more radical action. At the same time, the last time the United Arab List was in the news was when their delegation visited Jordan a month or so ago, and I imagine not all Israeli Arabs are satisfied with their efforts. The latest poll I could find was too close to Oct 7 and indicated increased sense of 'kinship with Israel', but I expect that the overall mood could have changed since. https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-finds-high-support-among-arab-israelis-for-volunteering-during-war/ Marenghi posted:Why can't they find any native Israeli spokespeople? They probably think they are seen as more relatable by white westerners who is the primary audience. It's all very cynical and stupid.
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Paladinus posted:I have a question, actually, because I don't think it comes up in the news a lot. What's the situation with Israeli Arabs right now? Knowing Israel's policing practices and the rise of extreme anti-Arabic sentiment, I suspect a lot of them understandably prefer to lay low fearing persecution rather than participate in protests or more radical action. At the same time, the last time the United Arab List was in the news was when their delegation visited Jordan a month or so ago, and I imagine not all Israeli Arabs are satisfied with their efforts. The latest poll I could find was too close to Oct 7 and indicated increased sense of 'kinship with Israel', but I expect that the overall mood could have changed since. I mean right now you can be arrested, as an Israeli Arab, for scrolling the internet (https://www.commondreams.org/news/israel-counterterrorism-law), can be stripped of their citizenship for a multitude of offenses, and "[c]ivil rights lawyers say Israeli authorities are interpreting any expressions of solidarity with Palestinians in Gaza as incitement" (https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-police-crack-down-arab-citizens-expressing-solidarity-with-gaza-2023-10-20/), they are laying low. Even with the recent settler attacks on Palestinian civilians in the West Bank.
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Marenghi posted:Why can't they find any native Israeli spokespeople?
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Shageletic posted:I mean right now you can be arrested, as an Israeli Arab, for scrolling the internet (https://www.commondreams.org/news/israel-counterterrorism-law), can be stripped of their citizenship for a multitude of offenses, and "[c]ivil rights lawyers say Israeli authorities are interpreting any expressions of solidarity with Palestinians in Gaza as incitement" (https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-police-crack-down-arab-citizens-expressing-solidarity-with-gaza-2023-10-20/), they are laying low. Even with the recent settler attacks on Palestinian civilians in the West Bank. Yes, I saw these reports last year, but then they disappeared from the news very soon after and Palestinians in the West Bank now seem to be bearing the brunt of Israel's police action. I would be really interested if there was an outlet or even a blog that covers current events specifically from the Israeli Arab perspective, as it seems to me to be very underrepresented. Even +972 are understandably focused almost entirely on what's going on with Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank. \/\/\/ Thanks, I'll check it out. Paladinus fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Apr 26, 2024 |
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Paladinus posted:Yes, I saw these reports last year, but then they disappeared from the news very soon after and Palestinians in the West Bank now seem to be bearing the brunt of Israel's police action. I would be really interested if there was an outlet or even a blog that covers current events specifically from the Israeli Arab perspective, as it seems to me to be very underrepresented. Even +972 are understandably focused almost entirely on what's going on with Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank. I've been checking this site to see any updates on discrimantory laws against Israeli Arabs (though they also cover Palestinians in the West Bank), for a while now: https://www.adalah.org/en/law/index Though like you I wish there was more information on what they're going thru right now.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I assume they'd prefer recent expats since they can speak the language and theoretically sell the idea that Israelis are 'just like you' to their respective nations. Although I think in practice the kind of person who would leave a safe country for Israel (and volunteer as a spokesperson) tends to come off as pretty weird They do have a swivel eyed lunacy to them. The Irish guy who emigrated thought it was normal reaction to say he would have preferred his daughter dead than captured by Hamas.
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I appreciate the corrections from Civilized Fishbot and Saladman regarding the outbound flights. I ought to have checked those out instead of just relying on memory.Civilized Fishbot posted:RE: the rest of your post, comparing the raw numbers of Israelis and Palestinians in the country or around the world, as if they're all gonna get together for a mass fistfight to decide it all, is stupid. The Israeli state is an apartheid one which should immediately be replaced by a normal democracy, but it's not going down to a rebellion in the form you describe, because it's also a nuclear power totally integrated into the broad first-world military-industrial complex. That's how it's currently mass-murdering tens of thousands of the civilians who you say would be doing that uprising with basically zero interference from foreign militaries. I agree with all of this, except for the part about nuclear weapons; Israel isn't likely going to use those on what it considers its own territory. But note that I was speaking hypothetically, responding to someone who seemed to be suggesting that Israel putting down a general revolt would be easy. I don't think there's going to be anything like such an uprising. But if, due to some magical set of circumstances, it were to happen, it would be extremely difficult to put down. e: Marenghi posted:They do have a swivel eyed lunacy to them. The Irish guy who emigrated thought it was normal reaction to say he would have preferred his daughter dead than captured by Hamas. Hoo boy, if you want a great example of that, check out Hasan Piker's recent experience on Piers Morgan. Or don't; it's really bad (but I'm gonna post it anyway): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tApmG0nGC7g Skip the "Crackhead Barney" interview (ie: up to 9:50); she's an idiot clout chaser, as Hasan correctly points out. Hasan understandably loses his temper a couple of times, but hoo boy, does the blonde lady come off as a complete reptile. Majorian fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Apr 26, 2024 |
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If I can judge based on Israeli media and what random Israelis post on social media: there's too great a risk that they'll just openly advocate for the extermination of all Palestinians, or express Opinions about things like birthrates and intermarriage. They have no idea what they sound like to other people in developed nations.
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In a tiny bit of cosmic light relief, Ben-Gvir's car just got flipped onto its roof, and he is 'moderately injured'.
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Majorian posted:
and the black conservative woman tags in to crush that lady, too
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Majorian posted:Skip the "Crackhead Barney" interview (ie: up to 9:50); she's an idiot clout chaser, as Hasan correctly points out. i'll do you one better and skip the entire video
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Lazy_Liberal posted:i'll do you one better and skip the entire video Yeah, that's probably the right choice. Like I said, it's awful. BUT it's a great look at what talking points they're hitting and will continue to hit. And, of course, how the mainstream media and especially ghouls like Piers will continue to "both-sides" things that should not be "both-sided." Hasan calls him out for this at the end and it's pretty funny.
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Halloween Jack posted:If I can judge based on Israeli media and what random Israelis post on social media: there's too great a risk that they'll just openly advocate for the extermination of all Palestinians Pretty sure that has already happened.
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Majorian posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tApmG0nGC7g What in the everloving gently caress is going on? Is this some bit from the 1980s? This is utterly baffling. Piers Morgan is making fun of a mentally ill woman or doing a comedy routine about a mentally ill character?
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https://x.com/PalestineChron/status/1783904938701050260 Ben Gvir (who apparently has a reputation for doing so often) allegedly ran a red light and was injured in a car accident. Unfortunately no other developments likely.
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Butter Activities posted:https://x.com/PalestineChron/status/1783904938701050260 He appears to be fine, and blamed his running red lights on how unsafe it is in that particular city.
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Blinken/Biden's one performative fig leaf of pretending to curb excesses of the IDF gets predictably smothered with a pillow. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...0News%20report. quote:Washington will not go ahead with sanctions it has been considering against Israeli military and police units alleged to have committed human rights violations against Palestinians, including the Netzah Yehuda Battalion, according to an ABC News report. "Yeah, they for sure did Human Rights Abuses. No, we ain't doing poo poo."
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Here's the source ABC News report: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-sanction-israeli-military-units-accused-human-rights/story?id=109651562 Here's the excluded explanatory material: quote:The Biden administration has determined that three military battalions with the Israel Defense Forces committed "gross human rights violations" against Palestinian civilians in the West Bank but will remain eligible for U.S. military aid regardless because of steps Israel says it's taking to address the problem, ABC News has learned.
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Discendo Vox posted:Here's the source ABC News report: I wonder what these specific steps are and why the Biden administration is confident Israel will take them.
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Majorian posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tApmG0nGC7g I think everyone in this including Piers Morgan is chasing clout. It's really sad to see mainstream news turn to dramatic internet personas as if it need to be even worse.
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mawarannahr posted:I wonder what these specific steps are and why the Biden administration is confident Israel will take them. One of them is likely what you posted yesterday. Cooperation with food aid entry via the pier.
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Hey it's me, the cool enlightened liberal dude, I really care about democracy and civilization, just joking about <checks note> burning jewish people alive. 
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Discendo Vox posted:Here's the source ABC News report: I think the issue is that people don’t believe the explanation because Biden wants to bend over backwards to please Israel
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Sephyr posted:Hey it's me, the cool enlightened liberal dude, I really care about democracy and civilization, just joking about <checks note> burning jewish people alive. A bunch of evidence came out about him grooming and sexually assaulting people. Very desperate but smart to ally hard with Israel, for now i guess e: oh, unless you took that tweet with him being serious? lmao https://www.tiktok.com/@brainrotpolitics/video/7296302600905887019 He's very pro-israel, I hate I even know this Barreft fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Apr 27, 2024 |
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