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Shammypants posted:Someone should inform ABCNews edit: lol, that live stream started 10 minutes before you posted World Famous W fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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Apr 19, 2024 03:18
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Now I guess we see when and what the Iranian counter-counter-counter-response will materialize.
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This sucks imo. Not a fan.
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Apr 19, 2024 03:24
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Shammypants posted:Such as? officials not named but cbs is repeating it
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So yesterday when it was reported that the white house had reached a deal to allow the idf to invade Rafah on the proviso they didn't attack Iran, effectively saying if you are a good boy and don't start world war 3 you can continue your genocide, presumably this agreement is now void and it should be expected the USA should act in accordance with the requirements of the convention for the prevention of genocide? Any reasonable person knows the USA will continue enabling Israel so what argument is there that American targets aren't legitimate as part of resolving the current conflict? Edit: This makes the Rafah deal that was reported even more ludicrous https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1781149557306401272 cagliostr0 fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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Apr 19, 2024 03:45
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cagliostr0 posted:So yesterday when it was reported that the white house had reached a deal to allow the idf to invade Rafah on the proviso they didn't attack Iran, effectively saying if you are a good boy and don't start world war 3 you can continue your genocide, presumably this agreement is now void and it should be expected the USA should act in accordance with the requirements of the convention for the prevention of genocide? As far as I can tell the only outlet which reported on this was the JPost, which is a terrible rag of a paper. Not that I disagree with your conclusion that the US is going to continue to provide cover even if they do both despite "grave misgivings" or whatever. Also lmao as if hitting US targets would somehow be on the path to resolving this conflict, there's literally no way that would do anything but further the escalatory spiral.
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Apr 19, 2024 03:52
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World Famous W posted:Israeli missile hits Iran, U.S. officials confirm Well it's just a missile strike at least.
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Apr 19, 2024 04:07
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Al Jazeera is saying that Isfahan has come under attack in Iran. Isn't that where the Iranians have a nuclear power plant?
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Apr 19, 2024 04:11
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Private Speech posted:Well it's just a missile strike at least. As opposed to what?
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Private Speech posted:Well it's just a missile strike at least. Thank goodness, was worried there for a second!
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TheRat posted:As opposed to what? Drones
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Apr 19, 2024 04:27
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Someone said airstrikes earlier, which you could argue includes missiles but if actual aircraft/drones were involved it would be a much bigger escalation.
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Apr 19, 2024 04:29
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You stupid fucks.
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Private Speech posted:Someone said airstrikes earlier, which you could argue includes missiles but if actual aircraft/drones were involved it would be a much bigger escalation. Depends on the target and scale of the attack, no?
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Apr 19, 2024 05:21
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I believe the message from Iran after their demonstration of intent boiled down to "next time you aggress against us anywhere we will repeat this on a grander scale." I don't think there's any meaningful difference between drones, missiles, or a suppressed pistol on a busy street. Israel just militarily struck Iran itself. It's a huge provocation, an invitation to open war even. Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I believe the message from Iran after their demonstration of intent boiled down to "next time you aggress against us anywhere we will repeat this on a grander scale." I don't think there's any meaningful difference between drones, missiles, or a suppressed pistol on a busy street. Israel just militarily struck Iran itself. It's a huge provocation, an invitation to open war even. CNN reporters are currently going at length to remind everyone that after Iran launched their salvo at Israel they "considered the matter settled," regardless if any (or all) were shot down or not. The idea of them not responding to this is virtually unthinkable.
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Apr 19, 2024 05:53
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Alchenar posted:The embassy conversation is weird to watch for me because it seems intuitively obvious that it's simultaneously true that under certain conditions an embassy building is totally legitimate to strike (ie. If you are conducting military activity out of it), but also if you are conducting military strikes directly against another country then you have accepted that you are in a shooting war with them.  also, given new news, getting ready for the general middle eastern clusterfuck war, nothing could possibly go wrong here 
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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It seems like Israel maybe just launched a few bottle rockets at Iran? If so then maybe they won't really retaliate in any meaningful way and this whole thing will blow over. Maybe.
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Apr 19, 2024 06:53
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Do it, push the button, I dare u bitch
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Apr 19, 2024 07:17
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Charliegrs posted:It seems like Israel maybe just launched a few bottle rockets at Iran? If so then maybe they won't really retaliate in any meaningful way and this whole thing will blow over. Maybe. Not likely. Israel is unhinged and Iran will be pissed. Escalation time. I feel a bit sick.
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Apr 19, 2024 08:23
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Fortunately it seems like Iran is in fact backing down. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-missiles-hit-site-iran-abc-news-reports-2024-04-19/ cagliostr0 posted:So yesterday when it was reported that the white house had reached a deal to allow the idf to invade Rafah on the proviso they didn't attack Iran, effectively saying if you are a good boy and don't start world war 3 you can continue your genocide, presumably this agreement is now void and it should be expected the USA should act in accordance with the requirements of the convention for the prevention of genocide?
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Apr 19, 2024 10:35
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IRGC claim to have intercepted all drones launched into Iran; I'm by default skeptical of majority-intercepted claims, but it's daytime in Iran and we've no footage of damage so far. There's also a lot of mockery from Iranian accounts on twitter, which could be a part of managing expectations; that the attack was so pathetic it doesn't deserve a response. Evades escalation while presenting a dichotomy between both nations' reactions to attacks they claim accomplished nothing.
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Apr 19, 2024 12:18
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Does Iran have an equivalent of Fox News etc that would loudly and publicly call for a retaliation on this retaliation against an unprovoked attack?
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Apr 19, 2024 12:30
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Boris Galerkin posted:Does Iran have an equivalent of Fox News etc that would loudly and publicly call for a retaliation on this retaliation against an unprovoked attack? No it's entirely controlled media that will put out the reality that the regime wants to put out. So similar situation: when Iran launched strikes after Solemani got hit it claimed that it killed hundreds of US servicemen. Nobody put any effort into contradicting that because the regime gets it's win and everyone got off the escalation ladder. Similarly Iran gets to claim that it's strike did sufficient damage to be retribution and that the return strike did nothing and that can be the end of things.
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Apr 19, 2024 12:34
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Alchenar posted:So similar situation: when Iran launched strikes after Solemani got hit it claimed that it killed hundreds of US servicemen. Nobody put any effort into contradicting that because the regime gets it's win and everyone got off the escalation ladder. To be fair, that went both ways; US claimed the strikes did nothing, then like, years? Later it turned out that dozens of soldiers at the struck base had coincidentally suffered traumatic brain injuries.
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Apr 19, 2024 12:45
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Alchenar posted:Similarly Iran gets to claim that it's strike did sufficient damage to be retribution and that the return strike did nothing and that can be the end of things. Hopefully so
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Apr 19, 2024 13:00
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Neurolimal posted:To be fair, that went both ways; US claimed the strikes did nothing, then like, years? Later it turned out that dozens of soldiers at the struck base had coincidentally suffered traumatic brain injuries. It was a few months later but while concussion isn't anything to sniff at, 'a few dozen people got headaches' is not the same thing as 'hundreds blown to pieces'. It's also the kind of thing that takes a few weeks to establish who and how many people actually got hurt. In any case, Iran went ahead and just announced it's damage assessment clearly having not caring what had actually happened, so they can do it again.
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Apr 19, 2024 13:31
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So if it was just a handful drones, does it mean Israel wanted a token retaliation and nothing more? I guess it's good that everyone's happy with a draw for now. Interestingly, Iran seems to downplay the strike to the extent of calling it an infiltration rather than an attack directly from Israel.
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Apr 19, 2024 13:33
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Fortunately it seems like Iran is in fact backing down. Wasn't there an article a little while ago claiming US requested Iran allow Israel to have a performative retaliation but were rebuked. Maybe Iran changed their mind.
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Apr 19, 2024 14:26
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Maybe they just don't feel like starting WW3 today, which I appreciate.
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counterpoint: humanity was a mistake, return to primordial sludge
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projecthalaxy posted:Maybe they just don't feel like starting WW3 today, which I appreciate. Look this is a really bad time for me can we murder each other's civilization population another time?
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suck my woke dick posted:counterpoint: humanity was a mistake, return to primordial sludge
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Apr 19, 2024 14:52
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Outrail posted:Look this is a really bad time for me can we murder each other's civilization population another time? we kinda in the middle of commiting genocide, call later?
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Apr 19, 2024 15:31
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Marenghi posted:Twitter accounts for Hamas spokespeople made the claim they were setting up speakers with the sounds of children playing to lure in IDF child killers. https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240418-israel-using-drones-to-broadcast-cries-for-help-in-gaza-to-lure-shoot-palestinians/amp/
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The quoted post seems poorly written, the actual story is Israeli drones broadcasting cries for help to shoot Palestinians who come out to investigate.
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Moktaro posted:The quoted post seems poorly written, the actual story is Israeli drones broadcasting cries for help to shoot Palestinians who come out to investigate. No, the thing about IDF lured into traps was months ago, the drone thing is more recent.
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