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Satellite images don’t appear to show extensive damage to Iran’s Isfahan air base allegedly targeted by IDF Extremely interesting that Israel's offensive was so muted. Perhaps the last thing I would expect from the Netanyahu regime in this case would be...prudence. Which means either: 1. They definitely got a Rafah green light for this. 2. Iran's attack with only 120 ballistic missiles significantly reduced Israel's air defense stockpiles (heard cost up to $1.3Bn for allied defense, and 2 years of production at least for replacing the air defense assets used according to West Points' MWI). The Iranians have some 3,000 ballistic missiles ready to fire, not counting cruise missiles and drones etc. 3. They have hit Iran elsewhere and both sides are silent for internal consumption reasons.
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im guessing that provoking iran is not having the effect netanyahu was hoping for so they are backing away from this bullshit
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I've seen some speculation that Israel used training/inert missiles and that's why we haven't seen any shots of smoke/damage/etc. That Israel felt they had to respond and wanted to show Iran they could easily get around their air defenses, but did it this way so Iran can claim they made a successful defense and won't feel the need to respond.
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D-Pad posted:I've seen some speculation that Israel used training/inert missiles and that's why we haven't seen any shots of smoke/damage/etc. That Israel felt they had to respond and wanted to show Iran they could easily get around their air defenses, but did it this way so Iran can claim they made a successful defense and won't feel the need to respond. Theres evidence of a weird missile-simulator called Blue Sparrow being used, but theres another variant of it that is high explosive. But... The parts recovered seem to be booster-sections, and supposedly the dedicated armed variant doesnt use a booster. So its plausible they used missiles designed to emulate the flight profiles of Iranian TBMs in the attack. Definitely weird and unexpected.
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israel is the most bitchmade country lmao gently caress em all (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Reuters is reporting a large blast at an airbase in Iraq. Interestingly, there is a US Stratotanker in the air over Iraq, as there was around the time of the strike on Iran yesterday. e: BBcode is hard
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Vorenus posted:Reuters is reporting a large blast at an airbase in Iraq. Interestingly, there is a US Stratotanker in the air over Iraq, as there was around the time of the strike on Iran yesterday. Which country would want to bomb Iraq right now though?
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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suck my woke dick posted:Which country would want to bomb Iraq right now though? ISIS? Big explosions don’t need to be from air strikes - and Iraq is saying it did not seem to be an air strike / drone strike, or if it was it was a completely invisible missile, rod from God style.
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Saladman posted:ISIS? Big explosions don’t need to be from air strikes - and Iraq is saying it did not seem to be an air strike / drone strike, or if it was it was a completely invisible missile, rod from God style. Proper Rods from God come it at orbital velocity,(or faster)they aren't invisible just because they have no booster, they shed tons of radiation nearly the whole way down due to the plasma shockwave. You have to have them going so fast most of the material vaporizes on impact, typically by accelerating them above escape velocity outside the atmosphere. Barrel Cactaur fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Apr 20, 2024 |
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suck my woke dick posted:Which country would want to bomb Iraq right now though? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/2/us-launches-strikes-in-response-to-attack-that-killed-troops-in-jordan But my understanding was that they did in fact stop targeting US troops after this, so unless there's some fresh provocation I'm unaware of the US probably wouldn't want to go poking a group that is currently "behaving". Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Apr 20, 2024 |
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What’s the update on the pier?
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theCalamity posted:What’s the update on the pier? David Cameron was in Italy at the G7 Foreign Ministers Meeting in Italy yesterday. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/g7-foreign-ministers-meeting-communiques-april-2024
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Rust Martialis posted:David Cameron was in Italy at the G7 Foreign Ministers Meeting in Italy yesterday. I thought the US was building the pier, not the UK
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theCalamity posted:What’s the update on the pier? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=1&threadid=3754814&pagenumber=666&perpage=40#post538981141 I'm not familiar with the reliability of the Navy Times, but apparently one of the ships suffered a fire onboard and turned back.
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theCalamity posted:What’s the update on the pier? Gimme a minute I’ll check ais
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Both of the PREPOs are drifting near Souda Bay. Army vessels still alongside in Souda Bay  So all the ships are nearby now. My opinion is that if they aren’t moving by mid next week like Wednesday, that’s it’s time to ask the administration if they still intend move forward to install it and to call them cowards if the answer is no.
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https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1781736713720565847 I do not believe this would be occurring if ProPublica hadn’t released their report that Blinken had been sitting on reports from people in the State Department of documented instances of rape and murder committed by Israeli military units going back even before 10/7.
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Nucleic Acids posted:https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1781736713720565847 Some good news, for a change. LOL at this part of the Axios piece: quote:"Sanctions must not be imposed on the Israel Defense Forces," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Saturday on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter. Please, by all means, Bibi, act against these moves. Isolate yourself even further.
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Majorian posted:Some good news, for a change. LOL at this part of the Axios piece: He posted that an hour after this one, but not in English https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1781752374865854548
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The question is whether these sanctions will hold and not end up being rescinded like the ones they put on the West Bank settlers
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FlamingLiberal posted:The question is whether these sanctions will hold and not end up being rescinded like the ones they put on the West Bank settlers Which sanctions were rescinded? Some at least are apparently still in place, and they announced new ones yesterday: quote:WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration on Friday imposed sanctions on two entities accused of fundraising for extremist Israel settlers already sanctioned, as well as the founder of an organization whose members regularly assault Palestinians. https://apnews.com/article/gaza-israel-west-bank-war-settlers-sanctions-3d1a6595f7c4cecaa42de7901c81c752
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Which sanctions were rescinded? Some at least are apparently still in place, and they announced new ones yesterday: All of them, essentially. quote:The US informed Israel this week that the Biden administration’s sanctions against violent settlers are not intended to compel Israeli banks to close the accounts of targeted individuals, an Israeli official told The Times of Israel. Article here.
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shimmy shimmy posted:All of them, essentially. quote:According to the US clarification, those named in the sanctions should still be allowed to access their bank accounts for basic sustenance purposes. Purchases beyond this scope, including foreign transactions will remain barred, the letter noted, giving Israeli banks the nod to partially re-open the accounts of the handful of settlers targeted, according to the Israeli official. So, no, certainly not all of them.
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tagesschau posted:So, no, certainly not all of them. It's a little more complicated than that - quote:We would consider the following types of basic living expenses and subsistence payments to be It does explicitly cut them off from crowdfunding, and it remains to be seen how the US will interact with the banks if they let the settlers kind of just do whatever except throw up a GoFundMe, but you're right about your main point. I had misremembered the details of the decision and conflated it with some of the Israeli Finance Minister's statements last month, so I just skimmed the article to confirm it contained what I thought it did but didn't fully reread it. I was being too glib, so I apologize for that.
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mawarannahr posted:He posted that an hour after this one, but not in English I don't understand how people see this and don't feel gross
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Yawgmoft posted:I don't understand how people see this and don't feel gross Any lingering questions have been soundly put to bed, genocide is bipartisan. Absolutely vile government. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Every day it gets worse. This is horrifying.quote:Nearly 200 bodies found in mass grave at hospital in Gaza’s Khan Younis https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/21/nearly-200-bodies-found-in-mass-grave-at-hospital-in-gazas-khan-younis
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A middling number (40ish?) house Democrats voted against the Israel component, so that's nice I guess. The non deranged argument for the package as a whole (several bills stapled together such that if they don't all pass at once they fail / go back for conference editing, to my understanding) is essentially: - Ukraine is in immediate and dire need - cutting Ukraine aid is going to have a lot more effect on Ukraine than cutting Israel aid will have on Israeli actions - most of the Israel aid in the bill is for Iron Dome et al, which is whatever morally speaking. Shame about the other ammunition aid - also the Taiwan aid, miscellaneous supplemental domestic funding, and tiktok divestment, I guess Even the Democrats with the good vote on the Israel part were unable or unwilling to torpedo the "glue" and delay or collapse the bill.
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Goatse James Bond posted:- most of the Israel aid in the bill is for Iron Dome et al, which is whatever morally speaking. Giving Israel money, or giving Israel anything at all period, is very bad. It means they're able to continue funding other things and running their state. Israel existing is violence.
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Nucleic Acids posted:https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1781736713720565847 Does sanctioning a particular battalion not imply that the IDF has lost control of that battalion? I know it's some politicking bs, but responsibility in the military goes directly to the top. If some unit has done some poo poo dire enough to be sanctioned you should be sanctioning all the way up. Units are not independent.
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hadji murad posted:Every day it gets worse. This is horrifying. I literally just saw a photo on Twitter of a corpse dug out of a mass grave at Nasser hospital in surgical scrubs with its hands clearly cuffed or tied behind its back. But things like this will not get air time because the American media is obsessed with “antisemitism on college campuses,” with a good chunk more or less openly demanding Kent State 2 happen at Columbia via calls for the National Guard to be sent in. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Nucleic Acids fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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Nucleic Acids posted:I literally just saw a photo on Twitter of a corpse dug out of a mass grave at Nasser hospital in surgical scrubs with its hands clearly cuffed or tied behind its back. The Guardian picked up the baby born to a dead mother but not the mass graves. I think other big outlets reported neither. I wonder how much is not wanting to know, or bias towards Israel, or bitterness towards journalists on the ground doing a better job than western orgs could ever do. It’s a complete failure of the western media, and they don’t deserve our trust ever again. Remember the next time they are urging military intervention. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Speaking of Western media, I guess it's obvious why they wouldn't put them on the nightly news like the anti war protests in Moscow, but is there anyone reporting on like pro-peace rallies by Israeli citizens? I at least want to assume not everyone likes living in the world's most famous murder factory.
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hadji murad posted:The Guardian picked up the baby born to a dead mother but not the mass graves. I see it reported pretty widely (E: even though it's obvious, since links are about mass graves, absolutely  and  )https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f085ced9b0ba3a7 https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-troops-storm-back-into-eastern-khan-younis-bodies-recovered-hospital-2024-04-22/ (Reuters, admittedly, doesn't have it in the headline, so it's easy to miss, but the article covers the destruction outside of the hospital, too) https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20240422-scores-bodies-found-in-mass-graves-unearthed-at-hospital-in-gaza-khan-younis https://www.nbcnews.com/video/dozens-of-bodies-exhumed-from-mass-graves-at-gaza-s-nasser-hospital-209449541862 Even by Daily Mail (with obvious caveats). https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13333661/gaza-claims-mass-grave-khan-yunis-raided-israeli-forces.html Paladinus fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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Paladinus posted:I see it reported pretty widely. That’s good to know. Guess it’s been picked up after the Al Jazeera reports. Still not up on the NYT as far as I can see.
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Fidelitious posted:Does sanctioning a particular battalion not imply that the IDF has lost control of that battalion? I know it's some politicking bs, but responsibility in the military goes directly to the top. If some unit has done some poo poo dire enough to be sanctioned you should be sanctioning all the way up. Units are not independent. Nobody above E-6 got criminal charges for Abu Ghraib A lieutenant colonel was court martialed for non-criminal charges and acquitted of everything A colonel received non-judicial punishment of paying a fine The 1-star general commanding the prison was demoted
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Paladinus posted:I see it reported pretty widely. None of them seem to cover the report of the person in scrubs with their hands bound.
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Marenghi posted:None of them seem to cover the report of the person in scrubs with their hands bound. As far as I can tell, this information comes from the rescuers Al Jazeera spoke to, but it hasn't been visually or otherwise confirmed by them yet (at least they haven't commented on the photo mentioned by Nucleic Acids, although I also haven't seen the photo myself, so maybe I missed something). I don't doubt Al Jazeera's reporting, and one of the reasons I recommended Al Jazeera was that locals are more likely to speak to their journalists openly, plus they simply have more journalists on the ground. At the same time, if The Guardian or NBC weren't told the same by the people they spoke to and they also haven't seen it themselves, you get what you get. When the claim is echoed by a Gazan official or by an international organisation, I'm sure we'll see it reported. France 24, for example, cites Mahmud Bassal, spokesman for the civil defence agency, and it doesn't look like he mentioned bodies with hands tied behind their backs elsewhere either, and my guess is he simply was unaware of the reports at the time.
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