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We saw the same thing happen when they murdered Shireen. Don't ever trust what Israel says.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2023 08:19 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 01:08 |
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/state-department-resignation-gaza_n_65306079e4b00565b622b1fb Guy that was part of the State Department that sells arms just resigned.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2023 02:41 |
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A big flaming stink posted:uh isnt this sort of public mutiny kind of unprecedented? the closest thing that comes to mind was kissinger's harvard ghouls telling him to gently caress off and iirc that wasnt published right? The main guy that was selling arms to other countries at the state department very publicly quit yesterday so yeah probably makes sense.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2023 02:02 |
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All they had to do was throw up enough of a smokescreen for a day or two and it's already out of public discussions. Real hosed up thing was Shireen was an American too. That's why she had access into parts of Israel and Palestine that others wouldn't. Probably why she got assassinated. E2M2 fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Oct 20, 2023 |
# ¿ Oct 20, 2023 22:10 |
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Wonder how many of those Hostages Israel has killed in the bombing. Gotta be quite a few right?
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2023 18:36 |
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hadji murad posted:What a pathetic media environment when 14 paltry trucks gets applauded and churches and hospital suffer random blasts that occur out of nowhere. I mean yeah when the State Department is talking about human rights abuses and then they park two aircraft carriers so that Israel can commit ethnic cleansing in peace. Also getting whiplash from liberals supporting Ukraine 100% and then Israel
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2023 02:01 |
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Raenir Salazar posted:I think it's possible to be sympathetic to the cause of Palestinian liberation but also hope Hamas is replaced by a more constructive and less vile organization, there's no need to support the continued relevance of Hamas in its current form. There's so many examples of successful resistance movements who manage to eke out victories without committing atrocities there's no justification as to why Hamas is the exception. I mean we all witnessed what happened during the Right to Return protests right? Mostly nonviolent met with brutality by the IOF. People and kids killed or maimed and there wasn't any mainstream condemnation.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 19:29 |
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We all remember the George Floyd protests and the last effects of that movement.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 19:54 |
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I mean that firm in Israel has the most advanced iPhone hack in the world. Plus basically being an aircraft carrier for the US
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2023 05:06 |
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Stanley Pain posted:Looks like nerve gas is back on the menu folks. Yeah I don't wanna hear anyone in the west ever loving complain about other countries alleged human rights violations ever again.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2023 01:35 |
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Kinda tangentally related but whatever actually happened with that Mossad and Italian boat thing? Was it Italian, I forget.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2023 19:03 |
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Kalit posted:Ehh... as much leeway as Israel has in the international community, I think there would be irredeemable backlash if they actually directly bombed Shifa. Otherwise, they would have done it by now. Didn't they cut comms completely anyways? How would we know otherwise E2M2 fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Oct 27, 2023 |
# ¿ Oct 27, 2023 20:32 |
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Viller posted:If Israel wanted an air tight seal against the Gaza strip, they would have it. Its 25 miles by 9 miles wide... Is this bait? Israel is about to ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip. There's a reason why they cut off internet access and even the US Lieutenant that was advising them lay the blame on Israel on what's about to happen.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2023 03:16 |
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ungulateman posted:what's the general political breakdown in israel, anyway? i know netanyahu got back in as part of a coalition with a slim margin but i'm really curious why the system seems so beholden to the settlements and their supporters when there's a sizable minority that want a peaceful solution and presumably a lot of other conflicting interests at play I mean don't they have a pretty rabid bloodthirsty right wing that assassinates its leaders?
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2023 05:12 |
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I think at this point the only way that Israel is gonna stop is if the Israel public starts seeing their kids on the front line die en mass
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2023 21:15 |
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Dog I can't get over how an Israeli tank fired on a civilian car while it was turning away and this isn't like headline news everywhere
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2023 23:19 |
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It would be so dark if his poll numbers dropping would be what caused the US to try and reign in Israel.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2023 20:22 |
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Pvt. Parts posted:. I don't see the incentive for Israel to bomb ambulances carrying non-combatants or not carrying key infrastructure of Hamas, other than to terrorize the population. But given how many eyes are on this conflict I find it hard to believe that some IDF commander is calling shots like that. That's not to say that mistakes can't happen, and that sick and extreme people who hold sway over the lives of innocents don't exist. But I just can't see most IDF leaders waking up and going "ok let's bomb some drat ambulances today!" as a policy. Because they can? And they want to? They can just say Hamas was there are rubes like you take it at face value.
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2023 20:50 |
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Muscle Tracer posted:They carry that on their bodies at all time, in case one of the IDF soldiers is the player character and wants to take on a side quest. All the CDs are of Osama's anime collection
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2023 03:57 |
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Nancy posted:I think Willo567 means they don't have an excuse lined up to completely purge the West Bank right now. So far the Israeli government, IDF & settlers have been breaking it up into enclaves and terrorizing Palestinians in the area & this has worked while keeping the West Bank largely out of the public eye. Doing something larger to the West Bank, a nominal noncombatant, while they are currently destroying the Gaza strip would draw down a lot of international scrutiny, as ultimately ineffective as that may be. Aren't they handing AR15s to the settlers enmass right now? Feels like what Hamas did to the Kibbutzs is gonna be childs play pretty soon
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2023 17:54 |
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I think theres a reason why Israel is pretty selective on who can visit. Ta-Nehisi Coates talked about his visit and thats the closest thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_df_u7yJj3k
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2023 23:11 |
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HootTheOwl posted:That said this sounds like some posthoc make believe because if Israel is already bombing ambulances why do you think they'll be safe and if they had this when they bombed the ambulance why did they wait to release it And why would Hamas use abulances when the tunnels seem like they're working perfectly?
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2023 04:11 |
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I said come in! posted:https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/11/14/israel-hamas-war-live-israeli-attacks-displace-700000-children-in-gaza Is this why the US was saying their intelligence said that there was a "node" in the hospital too? Basically giving the go ahead.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2023 01:20 |
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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/1...?smid=url-share These people really think we're rubes man. Shameful poo poo
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2023 02:11 |
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https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/01/birth-and-death-intertwined-gaza-strip Looks like HRW confirmed those decomposing infants that doctors found after the ceasefire
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2023 01:14 |
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I always see people say "hey at least they warn them sometimes when they level the apartment buildings", but doesn't that make it worse? Because if there was a legitimate target in the building then they escaped but if there wasn't then why are you leveling blocks of apartment buildings?
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2023 06:39 |
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These guys are likely all dead right?
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# ¿ Dec 8, 2023 02:12 |
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Mid-Life Crisis posted:Is there any evidence Biden really even wants to slow them down? The one thing he has admitted to over the decades is being unapologetically Zionist. Feels like just sprinkling some stuff here and there they can point to after this is all said and done and Netanyahu falls on the sword. "Look, we tried to stop them from commiting genocide!"
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2023 18:19 |
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And havn't they only taken one container ship so far? Seems like a pretty effective way to make the West actually try and stop the genocide, gently caress with their pocket books.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2023 13:45 |
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socialsecurity posted:The Houthis are not resisting any Genocide, Hamas is. The Houthis have done some ethnic cleansing of their own. The Houthis are not Hamas and them claiming they are doing the same thing they've been doing for a decade suddenly in support of Hamas is a claim that requires some level of evidence, which has not been provided. Eliat ports is empty. No matter what you think Ansar Allah's actual objective is they are hurting Israel economically, and the Capitalists worldwide (shipping rates are spiking worldwide, probably because container ships now how to go around Africa and is tying up boats worldwide). They're letting through Chinese and Russian ships so there's that too
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2024 15:06 |
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enahs posted:I'm not accusing anybody in this thread of this, but I wonder if there are Israeli state actors whose job it is to go on internet forums and stir poo poo up/muddy the waters about the conflict. I know that the FBI made an account here years ago but I've never seen anything about other countries doing so. It would make sense to me for them to do, especially given the amount of effort they put in to doing it in other media. Maybe not SA in particular, but other sites like reddit and twitter etc. Is anyone aware of any evidence of this that's been discovered anywhere? Yeah just look at /r/News. Israeli hasbara constanstly upvoted, anyone going aginst it downvoted. Séamus Malekafzali posted about the journalist that had his son killed in the airstrike got his account permabanned from the subreddit for even posting the link. https://twitter.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1744051903040762091 E2M2 fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Jan 13, 2024 |
# ¿ Jan 13, 2024 18:34 |
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Looks like Bill Ackman got another Tweet, but here is a NYT article about it too https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/14/world/middleeast/gaza-cemeteries-damage-israel.html
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2024 16:13 |
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Kchama posted:But what SHOULD have been the response to that? I understand that Israel is at ultimate fault for how they have treated Palestine for uh, ever. But there should be SOME response. I think doing something to the perpetrators would be standard, but Israel is so loving incompetent and evil they can't do it without genocide, apparently. Monsters. The UN Rapporteur went over this like 2 months ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmbH68cgcmM Its been 2 months since I watched it, but the answer is along the lines of: Special Operations to free hostages and attack Hamas, not indiscriminate bombing and starving/cutting off electricity/gas. E2M2 fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Jan 18, 2024 |
# ¿ Jan 18, 2024 09:23 |
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Theres a reason why Israel pulled out of North Gaza, and it wasn't because they won. Like when Covid was "over" they needed the works to go back to work.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2024 01:09 |
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KillHour posted:I don't usually do this, but goddamn this was a bad probe. Why would they agree to it, especially with this: quote:The Israeli officials said the proposal makes clear Israel will not agree to end the war and will not agree to release all 6,000 Palestinian prisoners from Israeli prisons Also if you were to follow this thread about I/P news you would have thought it was still October 10th or something. Instead of months later.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2024 02:28 |
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Provisionally determined to be commiting genocide
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# ¿ Jan 26, 2024 18:55 |
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Right, they first said they got the information from forced confessions. Then they manufacture some calls just like they have months past and make some fake dossier. I'm sure all very above board like the proof that the hospitals are actually command and control centers.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2024 21:18 |
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Plus the media never even asks the question on if these are war crimes. And the IDF lies are also laundered at the same time.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2024 06:50 |
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Kchama posted:Undercover work while posing as civilians and counter intelligence is not perfidy. It is specifically allowed as a legitimate ruse of war. Didn't they do it earlier in 2023 in Jenin on motorcycles?
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2024 16:09 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 01:08 |
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Kchama posted:That one was through a bomb, which I believe is perfectly fine with regards to perfidy. No word on what unit did it either. The accusation was that that specific unit did perfidious assassinations, IE shooting someone while dressed as a civilian or enemy soldier, planting bombs and stuff is generally fine because it's Sabotage or Legitimate Ruse of War. You wouldn't want to be CAUGHT doing those things, though. No, I saw a video of assassins killing people and running away on motorcycles. Even double tapping them when they were already dead on the ground. Don't remember exactly when. Might have been after those IDF units got hit with IEDs last year? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2023/israel-palestinians-raids-west-bank/ This was it, I think. E2M2 fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Feb 1, 2024 |
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