team overhead smash posted:

This is a position that is also held by exactly the same Prime Minister that you cite and whose opinion take as evidence of the direction of Hamas.

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ignoring anything that adds even the slightest nuance or disagreement to your ideology.

team overhead smash posted:

"Hamas will respect the results (of a referendum) regardless of whether it differs with its ideology and principles,"

Because he is specifically stating that the adherence to the results of a Palestinian referendum would override the organisation'. This isn't you finding some amazing rebuttal, this is you missing the entire point and not being able to understand what is plainly written in the article.

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First of all, you implicitly admit your bias. You offer absolutely no defence of your refusal to look at the facts and only acknowledging any evidence which already meets your worldview, instead trying to present it as okay because you think I do it too but in the opposite direction.

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Virulent anti-palestinian racism. Unless you are really really stupid, there isn't any other reasonable explanation for your consistent misrepresent of even basic information which is presented to you, especially in that you always misrepresent it in such a way that you try to paint Palestinians and anti-zionists as wrong or evil.

icantfindaname posted:

Look at my cherry-picked facts; they prove that Muslims need to be genocided in order to secure a future for Jewish children.



ISLAMAPHOBE

emanresu tnuocca posted:

So it's a little too early to say for sure but it appears as though Dear Leader is involved in the biggest corruption scandal in the history of Israel - http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.753626

Svartvit posted:

DRUMPF:

Some dude in some comments section posted:

Election is comeing...Good riddens to Hussein (Insane) Obama John (scary) Kerry and (Sillery) Hillary Clinton! BA BYE!

Main Paineframe posted:

Even the right-wing politicians are melting down. No less than four current cabinet ministers (Naftali Bennett, Miri Regev, Aryeh Deri, Yisrael Katz) have publicly called for him to be pardoned, with several of them claiming that the trial itself was unfair or tainted.

Ultramega posted:

Cat Mattress posted:

"If Palestinians wanted peace, they wouldn't vote for terrorists, like the Hamas."
*goes on to vote for a party created by members of the Irgun and the Lehi group*

emanresu tnuocca posted:

One of the things that is often ignored itt is the fact that Israel has always been a borderline orwellian dystopia, the government censorship laws and the strong ties between the various governmental PR agencies and journalists have always meant that the information being disseminated to the Israeli population is tightly controlled and impregnated with newspeak.

corn in the bible posted:

The forcible construction of Israel on top of existing nations was a capitalist imperialist war crime hth

Cat Mattress posted:

Israel is a state created by terrorists. Real terrorists, who are actually using terror as a weapon to achieve their aims. Terrorists who coldly plan and execute the total slaughter of entire villages to "send a message" to the Palestinians that they should abandon their ancestral land. Unrepentant terrorists, who are proud of their terrorist acts. Who build commemorative statues and issue medals honoring their terrorists.

Cat Mattress posted:

Absurd Alhazred posted:

It's been more than a week, actually, but thanks for noticing!

Torrannor posted:

A few years back, our government here in Germany made it harder for Jews to acquire citizenship. On behalf of the Israeli government, because they didn't like how many Jews chose to come to Germany instead of going to Israel

Cat Mattress posted:

The international community is the only one who can force Israel to compromise. As long as they're blocked from doing so, a viable and lasting peace will be forever impossible.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Zanzibar Ham posted:

Would the IDF even recruit Palestinians? I thought they already refuse to recruit Israeli Arabs.

Miftan posted:

This will never happen precisely because of this reason. They would bank on it never happening because the Palestinians hate Israel, but it's obviously a major security risk as well so they would never even legally give them the option.

emanresu tnuocca posted:

We've been having our own Trump in charge since 2009.

Ze Pollack posted:

It was an institutional enough problem, however, that, the way it was uncovered was someone asking the question "why, exactly, have ethiopian immigrants to Israel ceased having children. at all" instead of any Israeli medical professional asking why, exactly, sterilization treatments were suddenly part of Standard Immigration Procedure.~

Piell posted:

Yes it is

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

Any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

emanresu tnuocca posted:

Not only is Israel evil, in fact it's the source of all evil, like it's populated by lizardmen who emit a corrupting radiation that poisons the very soil of the once peaceful levant. And I mean that in a totally non-antisemitic way, after all I wrote 'Israelis' and not 'Jews'.

Al-Saqr posted:

No, except a 100% literal rambling restatement of the post above.

Also, I have Jewish friends. Well, I don't actually have Jewish friends, but I could, in theory.

Ytlaya posted:

Someone else will have to back me up on this, but I think you have to be Jewish through your mother's side to be considered Jewish in a religious sense. That being said, having useful skills might make up for that.

Lord_Adonis posted:

I have a question about the Israeli ''Law of Return''.

Ytlaya posted:

I asked a friend of mine with Israeli citizenship, and he said he thinks you would need a letter from a rabbi stating your Jewish heritage and read about a situation in an article with a soccer player whose dad was Jewish and did this.

qkkl posted:

I'm kind of surprised that to be "officially" Jewish your mom needs to be Jewish, considering that genetic tests have shown that the initial Ashkenazi population mostly grew from Jewish men marrying non-Jewish women.

emanresu tnuocca posted:

Just contact the jewish agency, if your ancestors have any documentation proving that they were jews (such as being listed in some synagogue a hundred years ago) they can probably find it and will look for it on your behest.

If your ancestors converted to christianity it might be an issue though, who knows.

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As others said, you can always convert to Judaism if coming here is that important to you, otherwise contact the ministry of immigration I guess.

qkkl posted:

If my only Jewish descendant is one grandparent, and I have a child with a non-Jew, will that child be considered Jewish? If so, this idea of "Jewishness" seems pointless since it would essentially be the one-drop rule where you could be 1/1024th Jewish, but still be "officially" Jewish because one of your past descendants was Jewish.

the old ceremony posted:

in my experience goons think that if they poke enough logical holes in judaism, israel and the diaspora will all embrace rational atheism and the world's problems will magically disappear.

Al-Saqr posted:

Jews jews jews jews jews jews

and while we're at it let's be a lynchpin in the fight against socialists and anti colonialists and fight leftism in general for he next few decades

Disinterested posted:

The idea that Israel is subservient to the United States is frankly so absurd on its face it doesn't really require an adult response.

Orange Devil posted:

Somehow it's more the other way around.

Kim Jong Il posted:

the fact that Zionist Jews were and remain at the forefront of civil rights movements and fights against racism.

Al-Saqr posted:

Yitzhak Rubitzov,

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died 50 years later than he should've.

Al-Saqr posted:

Actually I was saying that he should've died the moment he decided to pick up a gun to kill and cleanse and enslave the Palestinians in 1948.

Funny you mentioned the October war, since it wasn't about any 'Jew problem', the specific military and political goals of that war, was to liberate Egyptian and Syrian lands conquered by Rabin in the first place, maybe he shouldn't have been a piece of poo poo and shouldn't have started an illegal war to enslave other people? Just a thought.

Al-Saqr posted:

What the gently caress did you say to me, you little bitch?

Al-Saqr posted:

LOL ok sweetie pie seeing as how you're so intellectually dishonest that I point out the clear hypocrisy of racist right wing reactionary zealots who founded israel and point out that calling themselves socialists is a load of poo poo you automatically move to the tired tropes of painting me as an anti-semite, I'm not even going to bother giving you any kind of halfway answer if you're already going to approach what I say with this type of garbage, like try for once in your life to not to be a complete idiot child when you respond to people smarter and better read than you. Either quote me honestly in full or dont expect a response.

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Ahahahaha oh my god it's an Israeli accusing another national of having a biased and nationalistic history education

help im choking on my dates from laughing too hard

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Or you can listen to the woman discuss the topic herself, I suppose.

Cat Mattress posted:

That's factually true; anything green and not imported by settlers has been bulldozed by Israel.


Also, it is indeed a bad thing because growing stuff in the desert means depleting aquifers, so you can get two or three decades of agriculture out of it, tops. Then the whole thing comes tumbling down.

emanresu tnuocca posted:

2/3rds of Israel are the Negev, a desert I'm pretty sure.