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This seems like a good thing to discuss after Israel stops openly stealing land in East Jerusalem
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The government of Israel are morally equivalent to murderers and should be put in jail, good point.
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Dec 27, 2015 20:20
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Whenever Israel kills a 14 year old there are people are falling over themselves to point out that they're totally an adult by Arab standards, yeah
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Dec 30, 2015 23:16
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Hamas and other militant groups in Gaza are already recognized internationally as terrorist groups, while Israel receives huge amounts of military aid and diplomatic support from western nations. If they are morally equivalent we should change our foreign policies to be a lot less pro-Israel.
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quote:Moreh told The Economist that after interviewing the Shin Bet heads, he decided that Netanyahu “poses a great threat to the existence of the state of Israel.” He said that he seeks “to change the point of view of young Israelis. To tell them a story of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that has not been told before.”
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Jan 17, 2016 21:40
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When you think about it people giving me poo poo for being a racist idiot on the internet is the same thing as segregation.
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Jan 27, 2016 03:01
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The Insect Court posted:Are we still in agreement that Dees's work is anti-semitic? Or are we going with a 'he's got it right up until the chemtrails and GMO stuff'?
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Jan 27, 2016 19:38
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Does any other nation target UN facilities and staff as regularly as Israel does?
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Jan 28, 2016 15:41
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I think when a country is receiving $3 billion a year in military aid from your government that entitles you to hold it to higher standards, and maybe ask your government to stop giving them billions of dollars if they are poo poo Like the US does have a relationship with Saudi Arabia but the scale is just not remotely similar.
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Feb 5, 2016 03:10
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I don't think that's actually how anyone thinks. It probably comes down more to the moral outrage of western governments (ie, the representatives of the boycotters) providing so much support to Israel. This also means that a change of policy from our own governments could have a huge effect on the situation, making it a cause that is more likely to succeed than boycotting some random rogue state that won't care.
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Mar 24, 2016 04:11
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I guess collective punishment is only acceptable when it causes massive numbers of civilian deaths and the permanent destruction of critical humanitarian infrastructure.
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Mar 26, 2016 01:13
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Speaking realistically a boycott of Israel is not going to cause a humanitarian crisis.
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Mar 30, 2016 12:21
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Can you provide some examples of what you mean re: Weiss? I am not saying you're wrong, I would just like to see the evidence.
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Apr 3, 2016 19:06
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Hmm yes the MSF hospital targeting in which the US military investigated the US military and decided that the US military had done nothing wrong is a good, uncontroversial example.
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Apr 30, 2016 23:55
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Maybe the UN would like Israel more if Israel didn't keep blowing up its humanitarian facilities
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May 1, 2016 15:15
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Let me just repeat the wholly implausible story they're using to cover themselves again:
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May 7, 2016 11:16
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Why would people lie about a bad thing they did? It just makes no sense e: The idea that it happened entirely accidentally and with no negligence on the part of anyone is an extraordinary claim and requires an actual independent investigation to support it, rather than an internal PR job. It also as a point of fact does not prevent it from being a war crime. Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 19:03 on May 7, 2016 |
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May 7, 2016 18:51
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Kim Jong Il posted:There's a meaningful distinction between criticizing settlements and supporting full boycotts or any other crazy demand. The former is a mainstream belief.
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Jun 11, 2016 12:52
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I like that since TIC accidentally locked himself out of his beloved Nazi analogies he's been stuck using completely nonsensical comparisons to the US right.
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Jun 26, 2016 14:00
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The sad part is that it would be a huge improvement over the current situation.
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Jul 6, 2016 06:52
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It's not just "some Jews in Israel", it's that the government both perpetrates and enables that abuse.
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Sep 30, 2016 01:58
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three weeks after it signed a lucrative military aid package
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Oct 6, 2016 10:52
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NikkolasKing posted:So saw this in the USPOL thread:
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Nov 15, 2016 01:06
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I was in the 'this doesn't matter' camp but maybe the Israeli government's freakout over it could push them away from their allies. The truth of the matter is that the resolution is extremely uncontroversial outside of the US and Israel - it is so obviously true that basically every other country has it as their official policy and would always vote for it. The only unusual thing is that the US did not veto it.
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Dec 28, 2016 02:28
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All Israelis are Jews (except for the ones who aren't).
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Jul 23, 2017 23:38
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starkebn posted:Why can't Palestinians just have equal rights in a one state Israel?
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Sep 11, 2017 00:35
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How dare you hold a state that receives massive diplomatic and financial support from your own nation to a higher standard than already sanctioned pariahs.
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May 23, 2018 02:16
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Maybe the Palestinians should try to set up some kind of organization to encourage individuals and states to Sanction, Divest from and Boycott Israel. I'm sure that organization would be well regarded as a restrained and peaceful movement rather than monstered as people who want to kill all Jews everywhere.
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Aug 15, 2018 23:30
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Kim Jong Il posted:This is disingenuous nonsense, as the official BDS movement supports the right of return, meaning it's not the actual two state solution, making it a complete non-starter with Israel. It's not a movement merely trying to end the occupation or end the Gaza blockade. It's actually directly contradicting those efforts, and trying really hard to prolong a miserable war.
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Aug 16, 2018 01:45
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Destroying his home serves only to punish his family and community.
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Dec 18, 2018 02:00
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I was thinking troll but spending $10 on that incredibly mad avatar is a whole new level.
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Dec 18, 2018 04:09
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I bet all those kids whose homes got demolished for no reason are gonna grow up just loving Israel.
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Dec 18, 2018 17:52
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I think it's more just a general act of collective punishment and coercion. "Don't come out and protest or medically attend to protesters or you might get shot."
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Jan 1, 2019 23:15
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I think that the popular opinion in Israel right now has swung hard to the right, Netanyahu can't accept a cease fire.
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May 13, 2021 14:28
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Even being broadly supportive of Palestine it's impossible to defend this massacre. It will lead to an enormous escalation from Israel and terrifying consequences for the residents of Gaza.
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Oct 8, 2023 11:07
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Pistol_Pete posted:This is the key take away for me: this decisively ends the long-running accepted situation where the Palestinians are penned in and Israel continually slowly but surely expands its settlements, while the outside world makes empty noises about some sort of 2 state solution at some point, maybe. I don't think there's any going back to that now: whatever happens next, it's going to be something new and different, which I guess is the strategic aim of the attack, to shatter the status quo.
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Oct 8, 2023 13:57
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A lot of them were from other countries too.
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Oct 8, 2023 14:16
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I think political violence is sometimes justified, but that this specific act of political violence was heinous, excessive and will likely prove enormously counterproductive to the Palestinian cause.
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Oct 8, 2023 18:53
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ummel posted:I'm really not so sure about this, and I feel like we're about to find out the extent of this statement is a truly awful way.
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i fly airplanes posted:He may be voted out, because security (not peace) was the entirety of his platform. He has failed in this regard, drastically.
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