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"I have told hold this man's head under the water, because if I don't he may hold my head under!" Meanwhile the best solution to both get the gently caress out of the water.
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# ¿ Dec 24, 2015 14:58 |
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# ¿ May 5, 2024 19:56 |
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I just watched Louis Theroux's "The Ultra Zionists" documentary and I have to ask: Do do you think he painted you in the best possible light, TIC? I assume you're one of the guys in it. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2015 19:15 |
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On the other hand, I think it's good that the Palestinians do fire rockets. For one thing, it feeds the narrative that Israel has to live up to that Palestinians are an existential threat (even though they clearly are not, any more than a caged dog is an existential threat to the person holding the key). Israel has to jump through so many, many hoops maintaining this lie and eventually they're not going to be able to do it anymore. It's a loving awful situation but what other choice do they have? They can either go quietly into the night or take a stand and fight back, however futile. The "Well they should just quietly take it" is loving stupid because using the same reasoning you could very easily say that the Warsaw ghetto uprising was an Unreasonable act and they should have just quietly accepted their fate - kicking up a fuss is a terrible shame. Anything the Palestinians do, including existing, has caused them to be ground into the dirt. They should never be good little victims and quietly accept their destruction.
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2015 19:56 |
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One of the rocket's casualties was a Bedouin, which Israel co-incidentally didn't give a single gently caress about. Rockets are a war crime when they happen to hit, or land near, a Jewish person - other Israelis are not a huge concern.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2016 22:30 |
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hakimashou posted:Dr King and Gandhi taught non violence, and they won their struggles. I don't think you're familiar with the Civil Rights movement or the Indian independence movement if you think they were entirely non-violent.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2016 00:55 |
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Baracula posted:Gandhi was operating as the alternative to the real possibility of a bloody Indian army mutiny. That's probably not important though Likewise with the civil rights movement you had the black panthers effectively forming armed militias that would protect black neighbourhoods from the police etc.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2016 09:48 |
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FWIW it's only really worth looking at subtle nuances when there's even a token attempt to hide blind racism and bigotry. When official representatives come out and say that Miscegenation is wrong, that Israeli Arabs who show sympathy for other Arabs they should be denied rights of citizenship and outright denying the humanity and comparing people to rats and diseases it's really hard to find any semblance of nuance or other interpretations in that. This isn't dog whistle racism, this is a megaphone.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2016 13:52 |
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XMNN posted:I'd go with zero for either side, a missile that might hit a civilian population but lands in a field or gets blown out of the sky is a war crime but it's not really on the same level as one that kills or injures someone or dozens or hundreds of people. It's not that they're incapable of distinguishing civilian and military targets, they're explicitly told to disregard any distinction and treat everyone as a military target. http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/protective-edge Actual testimony from IDF on how Protective Edge was carried out. Obviously these are the worst types of anti-Semites that could possibly be.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2016 10:53 |
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I agree that a stabbing is a terrible thing that is completely unconscionable. It's also fairly common.We have about 130,000 stabbings per year in the UK, yet none of them are met with the full force of our military might by driving tanks through the ghetto, much as certain sections of society would love to see that. Why is it that Israel feels that a criminal act should be met with extra-judicial military force?
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2016 12:33 |
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Is this the point in time when you declare yourself the great recreator or what?
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2016 12:05 |
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# ¿ May 5, 2024 19:56 |
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The most convincing argument I've heard for the uniqueness of the Holocaust as a tragedy is that it was the first industrial, almost mechanised slaughter of humans. This was also true for every other target of the Nazis, though, so it still doesn't really hold true.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2016 21:03 |