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Bip Roberts posted:It's pretty hard to actually sink a ship without a torpedo. There are many ways to make it useless but unless there's a gaping hole below the water line it's not going down quickly. All 5 carries sunk at Midway required a torpedo from a Japanese Submarine to sink. Pretty much true. The point of a bomb vs a torpedo is that a bomb has more explosive per pound of stuff. Torpedos have the advantage of hitting the water line and producing flooding, bombs have the advantage of being well... bigger. Flooding literally sink ships, but lots of other things can happen.
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TehKeen posted:Out of curiosity what are some examples of ships getting blow up by dive bombers? I imagine a 1000lb AP bomb isn't very nice to most things. The kaga* and the Akagi* at midway are the big ones. Pretty much every American loss at okinawa if you count kamakazi as bombs. *they were actually sunk sunk by torpedos proving the earlier posters point, but they were killed by bombs and the resulting fires
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She cut the other ship in half and just kept going. Savage.
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PittTheElder posted:That's actually the right move, when you look at it from a wartime utilitarian perspective. She had 10,000 troops on board, and stopping would make you an easy target for a submarine that might be lurking nearby. Agreed, but still savage. Toot toot motherfucker. Out of my way.
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algebra testes posted:It's the Second Impact. I always thought the zendtradi were a metaphor for American ships showing up in Tokyo bay be it commodore Perry or the Missouri.
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So can you do a Doolittle raid in this game?
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Veloxyll posted:He just wanted to avoid a disaster like last LP I vaguely remember this, but can someone point me to this?
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 What do the green and red ships mean? Are those sightings of enemy ships?
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 It should be noted that "Negros" is an island in the Phillipines.
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And the name lives on! http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2188850
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pthighs posted:"The big man said we've got to drop these supplies that Japanese base, so dammit, that's what we're going to do." Maybe they were trying to defect? Death to traitors.
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How does the game handwave the reporting of casualties stuff? Are you supposed to have the enemies codes cracked and are listening in to their reports of losses? Is there some other explanation? Also, same question about ships reported sunk then confirmed later?
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Grey Hunter posted:
I think Rear Admiral Kurita left a little pissed about you demoting him.
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the_seventh_cohort posted:A mock up based on steinrokkan's color scheme: When you say previous, did GH play as the Japanese or the filthy white imperialists?
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Does the game model using warships for supplies like submarines in the Tokyo express or moving the bomb via batleship? What about submarines doing downed pilot duty?
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Nov 8, 2016 23:35
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RA Rx posted:If we're going to go to that detail I want to manage military police and prisoner of war camps, and nuts and bolt production in every factory. War in the Pacific Dwarf Fortress
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goatface posted:Bikini Atoll. Guam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg
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George HW Pixelman Bush has got to be bobbing in his life raft somewhere down there.
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Leperflesh posted:It would be especially bad for the Americans if those oilers were full of oil and the capital ships were near empty. It's actually possible the entire fleet could be stranded. This actually happened, though not to carriers and due to storm and not enemy action. Close enough. TF 38 was low on fuel after performing actions in support of the Philippines. They got hit by a typhoon and were unable to replenish underway. The little guys were riding so high due to low stores and fuel that three destroyers capsized and sunk. Other ships pumped seawater into their tanks for ballast and managed to ride the storm Proust Malone fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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RA Rx posted:Ngh... All Grey needs to do to survive out 1946 with more points than the Allies is sink another ten Essex-carriers or so, without losing any of his own. You can do that right, Grey? Are the Japanese victory conditions really that bad?
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I meant the game victory conditions. But IRL, had the Japanese won in Mahanian fashion at coral sea and/or midway, the war would have turned out very differently. Probably would have taken also a successful defense of Guadalcanal, but yeah I don't see the Japanese war effort as purely in vain. I think we're colored more by hindsight.
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Japanese victory necessarily has to be a political victory. A big victory like i mentioned has to include a rethinking of naval policy. The Americans already did this in the IRL timeline when they were unable to reinforce the Philippines like they planned to prewar. A theoretical us navy comes off that big loss and must re-evaluate. They could refocus and prosecute the war with their fleet submarines operating from the west coast and Australia and India. They could wait for their industrial capacity to catch up and try to re-fight the same battle in a year or two. What happens though if they can no longer supply pearl? I don't think a separate peace is out of the question.
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steinrokkan posted:Can't resupply Pearl? That's an absurd proposition. The Japanese navy was physically incapable of putting more than a dent into the American merchant marine combined with their shipbulding frenzy. In hindsight sure. But I'm assuming the American fleet carriers are sunk. If that battle takes place at midway, the ijn has midway and naval superiority in the north central pacific. Then next logical step is to deny Pearl supply. Hell, the US was bunkering up Hawaii hard for an invasion. As for the Germany first strategy, that was driven by close political ties to Europe as well as the not irrational notion that the west coast was immune to invasion.
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 I agree generally, but even in the irl timeline, the us did bunker the hell out of Hawaii. As to whether the Japanese could have blockaded Hawaii, I agree that they were at the end of their logical reach. Otoh, that would be the sole focus of the war effort in a timeline that has the ijn in control of the central pacific. So yeah it's a stretch, but that's my turtle dove path to Japanese victory. Early mahanian victory against the us navy, successful oil blockade of Pearl Harbor, Washington seeks terms.
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Generation Internet posted:you son of a bitch you sunk the Enterprise 
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Grey Hunter posted:Also, how many years have you had that gif ready? I had faith you'd do it Grey.
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No but really, shouldn't they have more air support? I'm scared Grey. Tell me it's gunna be ok.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:great carrier reef Thread subtitle right here.
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Can someone explain what "runway hits" mean in the context of the game? Does grey have to expend supply to repair the runway in order to fly planes? What is the effect of these daily bombing runs?
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Grey, any chance you'll be doing another turn on video?
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CeeJee posted:Even after years of following these LP's the game still makes very little sense to me. 
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Nope. Even in shallow water like what happened at Pearl Harbor?
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Saw the new Star Wars and the imperial navy is pretty much the ijn. Does that make the Tokyo bay fortress the Death Star?
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Mikl posted:"They kicked our asses pretty bad, and what do we care about the Co-Prosperity Sphere anyway? Let 'em have it." Just means Henry Kaiser is buying another mansion.
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RZApublican posted:The Enterprise went down on my birthday
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Fires over two hundred shots and didn't hit a thing? Maybe some glasses for your coastal gunners?
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Up to 500ish shots with out a hit.
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