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simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Doesn't japan get massive bonuses if allies land on home islands? And is where those ships are the home islands?

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simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Leperflesh posted:

I get the general principle of an invasion of mainland US prompts America to massively mobilize... but where are all those tanks and poo poo supposed to have come from, overnight? Did the US really have several hundred combat-ready tanks stockpiled just in case the Japanese invaded?

US production of war materiel outpaced their ability to ship it to Europe, so I imagine there were parking lots of tanks waiting to be loaded at any given time

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Leperflesh posted:

Oh hey, speak of the devil!

North Carolina, Northampton, same differnce

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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frankenfreak posted:

Cause she looks like a cruiser but she stings like a BB

Either way, she'll sink into the sea

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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lenoon posted:

This is the weirdest Greyverse strategic plan since the famous "cooks and sanitation workers first" incident.

Someone in the payroll corps made a joke to a general about having a lovely war, which the general didn't take kindly to

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Drone posted:

Weren't they brothers or cousins, too? I vaguely remember that they were in some way related.

I don't know about the ACW but WWI was fought between three cousins

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Graphs are fine but you are all suggesting Wrong Changes anyway

Onstead of making Japan hues of say red and the Allies hues of say blue, make GAME 1 deep and light blue (deep for Alloes), and GAME 2 in red (deep for Japan)

Then it's clearer for comparison

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Like I said, graphs are fine

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Cross posting:

First part of a documentary on the start of Japanese Carrier Aviation (all parts on YouTube)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YK4dreccM_Y
Basically, blame Lord Sempill

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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:getin:

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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No he personally surveyed the terrain and correctly identified landing beaches north of the city but was hamstrung by the British leadership

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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I think I had DD Devonshire and that got sunk, not holding out much hope for xAP Devonshire either

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Oh, so I didn't.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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I know Grey has had some good luck lately but his planes seem unable to meaningfully stop bombers and take massive casualties anyway when they try. China victories are coming after massive meat grinders and he seems to have a real problem getting supply where he needa it. And the shipping he hurts now won't stop the steam roller that's about to roll over the seas.

I don't think he's going to get a victory, minor or otherwise, but I think he'll do better than AI Japan, which is a victory of sorts I guess?

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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BurningStone posted:

It's like hurling an explosive high school student at them.

No the name for that was kamikaze

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Are paratroopers a thing in this game?

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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One grandpa was in the RAF, the other was in the IRA

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Just want to chime in that although I don't post in here really, I read every update, and would also read Tunis. Thanks for doing these, Grey!

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Are you going after those BBs at Christmas Island from a few days ago?

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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RIOs gotta sit somewhere, and while pilots lobbied hard to have them ride outside the aircraft, eventually a compromise was reached where they'd be relegated to their own bubble, on the other side of the aircraft.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Kitty as in "Kitty Hawk", right?

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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wedgekree posted:

I'm interested in this-verse how Allied landing doctrine seems to be throwing in the first wave almost universally always being support troops in the initial waves. there must be a reason..

Well if you commit your best troops to the meatgrinder when the enemy is fresh, what will you follow it up with?

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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To be honest, I wouldn't have put it past the game not to tell you for 2 days for some nebulous reason like naval command going "maybe they had a radio failure?" And refusing to admit the loss

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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gradenko_2000 posted:

I am surprised that WITP is not 100% accurate with ship stats.

The important thing about WITP to remember is that it fully believes it is 100% accurate.

It has many levels of precision (where the creators thought it mattered) but precision does not equate to accuracy

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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I know Grey will play this out to the end (after all the time he's put into WITP:Day by Day over the years) but I'm getting a real hankering for another Goon Admiralty Rule The Waves...

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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ModernMajorGeneral posted:

Re; soldier height chat, I'm fairly sure short soldiers were preferable in certain tank and aircraft units (depending on the vehicle) where space was an issue.

I did watch a documentary that noted 90s Russian soldiers were on the whole getting too tall for their 70s tanks

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Conskill posted:

Yeah.

One thing that often gets missed in today's culture is that PTSD required significant political and social cache to get recognized. Keep in mind we're talking the immediate aftermath of the Vietnam war and still in an era where a lot of men are growing up in the manly man don't-talk-about-your-feelings mode of thinking. Before PTSD was conceptualized this was seen as an embarrassing weakness to hide rather than a problem to diagnose and treat. The other side of the coin is Psychology in this era is slowly climbing out of the depths of radical behaviorism and the proponents of that camp, still a force in the discipline, are also essentially aping "real men don't talk about feelings" as a valid model of understanding humanity.

If there hadn't been people advocating hard for PTSD's recognition, it probably wouldn't have happened at all.

In WW2, British bomber crewmen and officers who suffered what we now call PTSD were getting dishonourably discharged with their papers stamped LMF in big red letters


Meaning "Lack of Moral Fibre"

E: correction from wiki, it was somehow even worse:

quote:

A man classified in categories (i) or (ii) would lose his flying badge, "to prevent his getting a lucrative job as a pilot in civil life".[11][12] The service records of those classified LMF were stamped with large red "W" (for "waverer").[11] Officers would lose their commissions and be refused ground jobs in the RAF, while NCOs would be reduced to aircraftman second class and assigned menial tasks, such as latrine duty, for at least three months.[12] From 1944, men released as LMF could be called for the coal mines or drafted into the army.[11]

Class (i) was "medically fit", class (ii) was "medically unfit on nervous grounds", but even class (ii) didn't exist as a separate category until 1941. You'd just be called medically fit and malingerant

simplefish fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Dec 20, 2017

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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dtkozl posted:

i forgot where exactly i read it, probably in beevor's stalingrad but in it they said the first men to die were all the soldiers over 6 feet on the march to siberia from malnutrition and exposure.

Also George Orwell was 6'2 and got shot through the neck in the Spanish Civil War, probably related.

E: and if memory serves, the average British soldier in ww2 was 5'9, for comparison

simplefish fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Dec 21, 2017

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Night10194 posted:

I've always wondered where the name 'flak' for AA came from.

Fliegerabwehrkanone

E:f,b

E2: ^^should be avaitor, not aircraft

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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The "war affecting industrial capacity" thing was a new phenomenon, it's easy to forget. But for all WWI turned thousands of hectacres into mudded wasteland bog and mire, Germany still did not simplify its small arms towards 1918 on a large scale, and even France (who pulled the trigger too early on small arms modernisation, if you'll pardon the pun) only made small compromises

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Grey Hunter posted:




Flak kill! And for anyone wondering, yes the airfield here is nothing but Rubble.



That's not Rabul - that's Luganville!

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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The correct response to all those carriers is to redirect the subs, right?

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Grey Hunter posted:


I can also scavenge more troops from across china. Which will form up a Hankow. This will tank months, but I think we can have a battle to win the war!

Please also make sure you sort out supply for them

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Saint Celestine posted:

Did this actually happen ? Did we send glorified fishing trawlers across the pacific as escorts?

According to that scene in Benjamin Button, anyhow
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WLFqXPQMjgw

simplefish fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Feb 22, 2018

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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How did we sink the CVL Cabot when we didn't even see it today?

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Grey Hunter posted:




The Allies invade their next island. They are so short on ships they are using a minelayer as invasion support....

It's worse than that. A minelayer is about 1200 tons.

This is a Motor Launch - about 85 tons and a only 3 pounder Hotchkiss for that "bombardment"

e: I suppose it doesn't say what type of ML, it could also have been punier 20mm fire it was slinging at that beach

simplefish fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Mar 20, 2018

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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gradenko_2000 posted:

As far as triggering the autovictory is concerned, yes.

Yes but also no

If GH is looking to double the Allied score, and is ahead, every 18 points the Allies lose are worth 9 points to him in losses.

Another way of looking at it is that if he loses 18, the allies have to lose 36

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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Good point, although when talking about parity it's double.

But while his score is less than double, he needs better than parity to get there

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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It's beein incorporated into the training corps. The Americans don't assume there's anyone left alive there, and there's no reason to put men in it, so because is uncontested and uninhabited they have been using it for training flights, like at Cape Wrath in the UK

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simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

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If the KV Moncton is this Moncton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Moncton_(K139)

...then why is it KV, not FS?
Kor Vette?


e: and she shouldn't be on active duty in the Pacific yet

wikipedia posted:

Moncton was transferred to the RCN's Pacific Fleet in January 1944 and departed for Esquimalt, via Guantanamo Bay, Cristóbal, Balboa and San Pedro. Upon her arrival, she was tasked to the Esquimalt Force (unallocated) and underwent an extensive refit at Vancouver from 5 May - 7 July 1944 where her forecastle was extended and she was brought into line with the modified Flower-class design. From July 1944 to December 1945 she was tasked to Pacific Coast Command (unallocated).

Sounds like she should still be en route, arriving in May, then being refitted til July in Vancouver

simplefish fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Apr 20, 2018

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