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sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Grey Hunter posted:

Okay – life point! My wife is currently pregnant, child due in April. Al going well, by the time this ends, I'll be having arguments with the little monster.

Congrats! I can assure you that you will be having arguments with him/her well before that. By the time 1945 rolls around, they will be second guessing both your parenting decisions and your overall strategic plan. I recommend naming it after whatever ship you sink on the day it is born.

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sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Gamerofthegame posted:

This was actually an American Strategy, or at least this line of thought; they reused ship names. For example, the Yorktown was sunk at Midway after a lengthy career of punching the Japanese in the face up and down the Pacific. She was succeeded by the, well, Yorktown, a later model of carrier. This was rather confusing to Japanese Intelligence reports and also extremely demoralizing. "Wait, I thought we sunk that one?!" etc.

Now, of course, the BIG E never actually sunk, but it was still a thing.

Re-using ship names is a pretty common practice? Although what must be really demoralizing is that by 1944, the US had run out of pre-war battles to name carriers after and was starting to use the names of battles from earlier in the war.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
In a more serious note, how bad was losing all those transports and invasion troops from that lurking carrier? If this is a game about snowballing in the first few months, seems like minor incidents like that could really make it difficult to establish his perimeter before the invasion bonus wears off.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

fredleander posted:

Everything considered that might have been a better solution than how it turned out. Would that have satisfied the Japanese appetite for the "co-prosperity sphere?"

Maybe for the army, which wanted coal and iron and grain, but not for the navy, which wanted oil and rubber from DEI and Malaysia. And yeah, the pretty borders faction wanted Siberia and the Phillipenes.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
Also, the "Russia attacks Germany" scenario comes to us from... the Nazis themselves, so it is a little suspect. Considering Stalin had achieved most of his territorial goals through the MR pact and was subsidizing the Germans through cheap oil and grain, he probably felt relatively secure from the Germans.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Jobbo_Fett posted:

There's a reason why "Quisling" means Traitor in Norwegian ;)

English, too. Thanks for the loan word.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
Just about the only thing the US didn't give the Soviets was the Enriched Uranium they asked for, I wonder why.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

James Garfield posted:

This is entirely off topic but don't a lot of wargames deliberately underrepresent the armies in Western Europe so Germany can win against a French player with the benefit of hindsight?

I think they sometimes have to introduce somewhat arbitrary limits on France & the USSR because it is hard to realistically emulate how badly they did in 1940.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

TildeATH posted:

I refuse to believe it. GH will just tell her "The baby is defiantly not coming right now, I can post this turn update."

And then the baby can be all, "SOVIET RESPONSE".

While the labor process can take a while, there's a lot of sitting around, waiting. If he brings his laptop, it shouldn't be an issue.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

goatface posted:

Mountain Jungle. Reduce your land speed to Nnnope.

Why isn't he trying the original plan of making an end run around New Guinea? Hasn't been a Coral Sea to interrupt him.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
Congrats. Are you going to min-max the kid's stats, or go for a more balanced approach?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
If an ammunition ship went off amidst a few other transports...

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
Hopefully you don't have to manually order them to tie down the aircraft for rough weather in this game when you are ferrying aircraft.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

OpenlyEvilJello posted:

Today's historical warship loss takes us, once again, back to the Atlantic, and it's a doozy. HMS Curacoa was a C-class light cruiser, completed shortly before the end of WWI. By 1942 she had been converted to an antiaircraft cruiser mounting eight 4" guns (it was a simpler time, when this was considered to be a real AA suite). She spent most of her war service escorting convoys in the Western Approaches. Just north of Ireland on 2 October 1942, she rendezvoused with the famous (and enormous—over 80,000 tons) RMS Queen Mary, which was carrying American troops to Britain. The latter ship was proceeding at high speed on a zig-zag path to avoid submarine attack. The two ships' courses intersected and, the captains not agreeing as to who had the right of way, Queen Mary plowed into Curacoa amidships at nearly 30 knots, neatly slicing her in two. The severed halves sank quickly, taking with them more than 300 officers and crew; the survivors remained in the water for several hours until destroyers arrived on scene to rescue them.

Not bad for an unarmed cruise ship.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Davin Valkri posted:

Heck, until we get confirmation of a second dead Allied carrier, this might have been a win for them (1 carrier confirmed down on their side, 1 CV and 1 CVL on ours).

More importantly, how many battleships did we lose? The whole Kantai Kessen thing means that our carriers are mostly for weakening the enemy forces and our glorious hanzo steel battleships will sweep the seas clean of the enemy fleet.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

algebra testes posted:

You mean the Bismarck, whose rudder was jammed by Swordfish from a British Carrier?

That was later; in the first engagement the Bismark had, she and her escort went toe to toe with the Hood and the Prince of Wales, I think? Can't remember exactly. No air support, 2 v 2 gun duel, like Nelson intended.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Gnoman posted:

It was Bismark and Prinz Eugen vs the Hood and the Prince Of Wales. It was a short engagement.

Yeah, the British still hadn't ironed out the whole "battlecruiser sudden explosion" problem that had plagued them during the last war.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Crazycryodude posted:

I think you misunderstood what they were saying, because the message I got is pretty much what you said. RA Rx was saying that Gay Black Hirohito with a 21st century history textbook would have been better off buddying up with the Allies (including backing off of China for a decade or two), and waiting until the 50's for the European empires to fall apart. Then they could build the Co-Prosperity Sphere out of all the newly independent and unstable Asian nations.

Unfortunately, there's no savescumming allowed in history.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

gohuskies posted:

There are carrier capable squadrons that you can load onto a carrier at a port and they can take off from a carrier, but they aren't carrier trained so they take like 90% operational losses if you ask them to land on a carrier. Lots of Marine squadrons are in this category.

Yeah, they have trouble navigating when they can't follow the railroad tracks home.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

quote:

The Chinese generals are getting more and more desperate. This is a massive loss of squads.


Your men must be getting close to their pre-set kill limit.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

A White Guy posted:

So Grey is doing exactly what the IRL IJN had in mind when they began constructing an airfield on Guadalcanal: Hit convoys going to Australia in order to starve them.

Grey is literally Yamamoto.

Grey is doing what Yamamoto should've been doing; instead of fussing around with carriers, go mano to mano with battleships, and once the enemy battleships are gone, then you can use carriers as the commerce raiders that they are best at. Carriers sinking a battleship? Hah!

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
Allies also had some wonderwaffen that didn't pan out; remember project Habbakuk? Trying to make artificial icebergs to use as aircraft carriers used up a ton of steel that could have been turned into the lovely escort carries that ended up winning the battle of the atlantic. Or project Paperclip, an American attempt to turn b-17s into remote-controlled guided missiles? That one ended up killing a Kennedy and giving the Germans an intact b-17 to study, IIRC. Anyway, the goal of the Japanese balloon bomb project wasn't to kill hikers, it was to start forest fires that the US would have to divert resources into fighting. And, to some extent it worked, inasmuch as the US had to spend more fighting the fires than the Japanese spent making the balloon bombs... but in the immense scale of WW2 industrial production, it was a drop in the bucket.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

PhotoKirk posted:

Paperclip was the recruitment of German scientists. Aphrodite was the remote-controlled B-17 project.

All these wacky project names.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Grey Hunter posted:

He has his own tank identification guide actually. its a smaller one he grabbed and likes to chew on at the moment.

Well disciplined, it seems. Surprised that those bookshelves haven't been ransacked.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

gradenko_2000 posted:

Considering the paucity of Japanese CV reinforcements, the awfulness that is Japanese damage control, the steady decline of Japanese pilot quality, and the sheer number of Essexes that will eventually come into play, it's still a die roll whenever the KB goes up against a single American CV, and there are so drat many that we need every edge we can get.

CVs aren't for killing carriers, BBs are.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Leperflesh posted:

No. A penalty is a punishment. A malus does not imply that you did something wrong.

e. In this case, GH's dudes might suffer a penalty, but malus is a broader category; e.g., it's not wrong, just more general.

And bonus is a reward? The dudes attacking have supply, so they receive a reward of +2 fightyness. But they are also attacking a river, so they have a penalty of -1 fightyness. Both bonus and malus can be inserted in the sentence without there being an error.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
It's kind of hard to keep losses secret unless you, I don't know, keep the ship's survivors locked away without letting them talk to their family and friends.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Donkringel posted:

Actually what was the best branch and position to be in in order to save your rear end?

I would think european theatre, navy.

Civilian administration, Washington DC.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

gradenko_2000 posted:

Grey starting to see Corsairs is going to be painful.


Historically I think it was like a flight of three B-29s.

In the game you probably should have them escorted, since the drop can still fail if the bombers get intercepted.

I think it was one to drop the bomb and one to follow it to take pictures and observe. The eyewitness accounts I have read all seemed to say, "only one plane? No big deal..."

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

quote:

No, instead it helpfully delivered to the fleet 12,000 pairs of fur boots and a matching number of winter coats. In Madagascar. In spring.

The linked diary seems to blame perfidious Albion for that; says they wouldn't let them ship munitions through Suez.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Leon Cross posted:

I now have the image of a Disney Cruise liner beaching itself and marines poring out of it to storm a Japanese island in my head.

Basically this is what happens whenever a cruise ship sails into a small town.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

I imagine that newfangled "radar" contraption probably helps a fair bit with making flak more effective.

Especially when miniaturized and put inside shells.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

pthighs posted:

Another thing to keep in mind is as the war goes on US ground forces get more and more powerful as they get re-equiped with more powerful weapons. The Japanese, not so much.

Unless they also get equipped with gills, it shouldn't matter too much.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

Wait, wasn't there some posts a little while back that claimed the exact opposite? That Japanese pilots were barely trained and might be doing their first combat sortie with hilariously few flight hours logged? Or was that something that happened afterwards when they realized they didn't have much of a choice?

Yeah, in 1944 their pilots were not as well trained as they were in 1941. Pre-war, it was like 3 years training to make a carrier pilot. By 1945, they were pulling students out of college and throwing them in planes with one-way tickets.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
I bet the Japanese subs don't even have ice cream machines.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
Maybe you could play like the Kaiser and keep them in harbor for the entire war?

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Night10194 posted:

So that's the end of the LP, right? Since Grey admitted a defeat in battle a more zealous junior officer assassinates him and takes over, right?

Well, no, he has to assign the surviving ships to out-of the way islands and not report this defeat to the army.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
Cute. Soon enough you'll be able to take him to museums and let him climb on tanks and planes and stuff.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Leperflesh posted:

I'm like 90% sure you did do a Call of Cthulhu game to explore this! I remember reading it... it petered out at some point.

Shame, too. I liked the bit about the Communist Manifesto being a mythos tome.

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sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Gort posted:

Eh, the Tirpitz got sunk by level bombing.

After like 2 years of trying, while it was stuck in a harbor and couldn't maneuver...

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