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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Sports Argument Stadium > The Hammer House: Stinger Splash Zone > WWE Discussion for 12/7: Raw is Tater Tots ft. Roman Reigns and Company
 
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Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Top Bunk Wanker posted:

If you could boil that last segment down to the tater tots line and then Sheamus getting speared through the table without the 45 minutes of whatever the hell that was in between, it would have been extremely good, to me.

It would be incomplete without the fiftieth iteration of the tater tots line.

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RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Alain Post posted:

I'm sure all the bad parts of RAW, are Vince and Kevin Dunn's fault, and all the good parts belong to HHH, who does not actually book NXT.

The multiple show opening speeches by Triple H which highlight how cool he is are not written by Triple H, but by Vince, and they reflect just how cool and strong Vince thinks he is.

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RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

SamuraiFoochs posted:

How many times do we have to have this (rather stupid) discussion? HHH being a mark for himself is indisputable and bad, but is nowhere near as bad as a lot of Vince's issues. It's a pick your poison type scenario. Also HHH promos>Vince-scripted Reigns and Cena and everything else promos.

The #1 difference between Vince and HHH is that HHH, by most accounts, trusts people to do their own jobs.


Yeah this. The problem with WWE is that it's like a movie that's directed, produced, written, casted, marketed, shot, edited, and everything else except starring a single man, who is old and senile and stubborn as gently caress.

Vince rules.

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RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

SamuraiFoochs posted:

You cannot say this unless you love the current writing and booking.

If you do, however, then more power to you and I want some of your stash.

I do and have been outspoken about this.

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RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

oatgan posted:

The last segment of the show was extremely funny

ya

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Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Big Coffin Hunter posted:

lol they are back to giving reigns looney toons promos again amazing

He's making disparaging remarks about the Irish so it's more Merry Melodies. A step up, imo.

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RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

CobiWann posted:

Weird post, so please bear with me.

I’ve been watching a lot of old school 1970’s era Doctor Who lately. Right now I’m going through the stories that are considered to be the show’s “Golden Age” in the mid 70’s with Tom Baker as the Fourth Doctor. The producer/showrunner at the time was a man named Philip Hinchcliffe, who helped put together a run of stories that still pop up on “Best Of” lists even today. The behind-the-scenes features on the DVD’s are fascinating to me as they talk about how the episodes came together, how the script was written, how the crew did the sets, and so on. Even though the special effects were dodgy and there was a good number of “man in a rubber suit” aliens, a lot of these stories still pop up on “Best Of” lists even today. What really struck me was this line from Hinchcliffe.


THIS is where I think the WWE is screwing up right now. The writers (and Vince, and maybe HHH) are so concerned with telling a good WWE story that they’re failing to tell a good story period. To them, the WWE is the brand, and right now Roman Reigns is the face (or face-in-waiting). So everything that the WWE is focused on producing right now is done with the sole goal of getting Reigns over and telling HIS story, aka the WWE’s story. It’s “Roman Reigns and Company.” It’s Dean Ambrose, “Roman Reigns’ buddy.” It’s the Usos, “Roman Reigns’ cousins.” It’s “how do we make Reigns look strong.” It’s not “how to we tell a good Roman Reigns story” because those stories would involve Reigns looking weak, or Reigns looking like he can’t pull it off. When Reigns can’t pull it off, it’s because of outside forces like Sheamus. And even when Sheamus is actually looking pretty good and surrounds himself with a group of like-minded villains…the story isn’t about “can Reigns overcome the villains to get to Sheamus?” It’s “can Reigns beat Sheamus?” Except he has, per last night’s opening and closing segments on RAW.

The WWE is so concerned with telling one story that they’re neglecting the others. They have a good staff of wrestlers on hand. You have amazing talents like Adrian Neville and Kevin Owens. The Miz might not be the best in-ring performer but he can douchebag it up like no one’s business. Name me a better smack talker in the WWE than Wade Barrett. Name me someone who is more scary and intimidating than Luke Harper. The crowd WANTS Antonio Cesaro to swing people, they want Sasha Banks to walk all over the Divas division. The only thing the WWE is doing correctly right now is the New Day and that’s because they’re just letting them run with the ball and do whatever they want. And they have a good crew. The production crew who put together the videos and montages are some of the best in the business, and if you toned down Kevin Dunn’s camera direction there are some amazing shots and moments that get put on screen.

But that’s not the story the WWE wants to tell. They want to talk about Roman Reigns. And if someone else looks to be getting over, they’re either 50/50’d into parity or take the pinfall loss in multi-man matches so, hey, Roman still looks good. Hell, Roman Reigns is a great rear end-kicker. Just let him punch people, look intimidating, and smug it up a bit for the camera. We don’t need “tater tots” or “magic beans.”

The GDT last night talked about “what the hell do we watch this show?” For me, it’s out of habit and it’s background noise while I do something else. But with all the pieces the WWE has, there HAS to be something good about to happen. The WWE has to luck into something good soon and I’m just dumb enough to hope that they’ll actually do something with it instead of fighting the tide the entire time. It’s statistically harder to be this bad for this long than to NOT accidentally do something amazing.

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RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Chris James 2 posted:

I just wanted to say I read all of this, like your post and agree completely :unsmith:

lmao

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RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

oatgan posted:

roman reigns problem is that he isn't believable. Nothing he says sounds like something he would or should say. He comes off like a guy playing a role and not a genuine person. Say what you will about John Cena but if they gave him that material last night I would believe that John Cena thinks Sheamus has tiny shriveled balls. Roman needs to either find his voice as a performer or protect himself and tear up the awful scripts they give him

Or die

He works fine as a reticent badass. Worked for him in the SHIELD. All his best segments have someone else talking while he looks tough. That's not even backwards praise, people like those guys.

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Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Blooming Brilliant posted:

I see hitler aids and boner, what do I win?

Hitler's AIDS boner.

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Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Tezzor posted:

When I was 8 I would have eaten cut up hot dogs for every meal if you'd let me

You would also watch cartoons and pro wrestling if they let you as you would find them amusing, being children's media and all

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