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Saeku
Sep 22, 2010
Question for the Marxists here: how exactly is the revolution supposed to work in a globalized/financialized economy?

The poorest states are the least capable of producing for themselves because colonialism and neo-colonialism have forced their economies to specialize in production for Western demands, not for their own consumption. So you seize the means of production and you get a lot of capital assets that are not useful except in the context of global trade (say, Bangladesh having a ridiculous surplus of textile production relative to its own needs.)

Meanwhile the rich states have increasingly become financialized, spending less resources on production and more on managing Western-owned productive capital located in China and in poorer states. So if there’s a revolution in a rich country, what gets seized?

Effectronica posted:

You're right, resistance to international ownership will always be faulty when done nation-by-nation, as autarky leads to stagnation. Clearly, what is necessary is a broad, popular front across nations, working to create an international network of mutual support against the predatory behavior of capitalists.

OK, that's one answer. But how is the working class going to come together globally? Is there even a unified global working class? The conditions of a US service worker, Chinese factory worker, and Congolese miner are completely different, and the American worker reaps benefits (in the form of cheap food and goods) from the exploitation of the non-Western worker.

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Saeku
Sep 22, 2010

Effectronica posted:

I didn't say that. I used 2nd-wave feminism as a model for how such a movement would be built. Furthermore, I disagree with your history because it neglects the anti-feminist backlash of the 1980s and early 1990s.

I don't think the feminist movement is a great analogy for Marxist revolution. Feminist theory (including the 2nd wave) has influenced women globally, but tangible improvements to living conditions took different paces and forms in different countries. For instance, it was a century between US and Saudi women's suffrage. Is global conversion from capitalism to socialism supposed to happen on a time scale that long? If not, what does the transitional stage look like?

Saeku fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Dec 12, 2015

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