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Obdicut posted:Name one time accelerationism has worked anywhere. 2008. Republicans controlled congress starting in 1994 and every branch of government by 2001, and in the next 7 years they flushed trillions away in endless pointless grinding wars, destroyed as much regulation as they could, and by the 2008 election the economy was in a shambles and the country was burning down around us. And it ushered in Democratic supermajorities and the first black President. ...And all the gains were promptly blunted by the next election because Bush did the bare minimum to save us from depression by bailing out the banks, and instead of learning, the reactionary voters just needed someone to get on TV and tell them it was poor black people who engineered the collpase
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Oh okay I got one: the 1933 Enabling Act. The NSDAP kept increasing its share of the electorate. When the SDP finally agreed to give them absolute power, in just twelve years the NSDAP was disgraced and their political philosophy discredited and would never have influence in Germany again. Wins all around for the German people, can't argue with results!
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Dec 12, 2015 14:57
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Woolie Wool posted:I wouldn't call starting and losing a giant war, 7 million dead Germans, millions more used as slave laborers by the Allies for several years, the permanent loss of the Prussian heartland to Poland, occupation, the Morgenthau Plan, the indignities of the denazification programs, several million more Germans ethnically cleansed from surrounding countries, and a 45-year partition in which a third of the country was a brutal Stalinist police state to be a "win for the German people". It was the worst thing that ever happened to them, only balanced out by the fact that the things they did to others were worse still. Yeah but the fascists don't have any political power. The rest of the stuff you said are wins because millions of dead countrymen in the worst catastrophe in history means I get to pat myself on the back for being right and all those people deserved it for not fighting fascism hard enough or for supporting it (which is different than what I am doing because I am voting for fascists ironically). Now that we've established that it works, let's kill 10% of Americans and destroy our country in the worst disaster ever so we can finally build up a kinda centrist Christian Democrat coalition here in 
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Dec 13, 2015 02:28
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the other 20% stayed home because we nominated a Hillary-loving RINO who supports socialist health care, the media and the establishment crowned Trump because they were afraid of a True Conservative winning in a landslide.
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Dec 17, 2015 16:37
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Millionaire web developer supports unfettered capitalism that will condemn the poor to a miserable hell but have little impact on his own standard of living, news at 11.
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Dec 24, 2015 16:12
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SSNeoman posted:See I dunno about that. I get the feeling that the guy is coming from being extremely let down by his country during the whole PB debacle. You can call this view misguided, but I don't think he has this opinion because he's Richie Rich. That explains a "this system sucks" opinion, but it doesn't explain the "so let's make it worse and let the poor die in the streets until they make the revolution for me" opinion. Accelerationism is the domain of the lazy and the affluent. Notice who is in favor of it, it's never the guy working two jobs whose wife wouldn't ever be able to afford cancer treatment if the Medicare expansion were repealed under a Republican administration. It's always the well-off man who would be insulated or maybe even benefit from the suffering he wants to impose on the country.
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Dec 25, 2015 03:20
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Well you may be right that acceleration is equal parts stupidity and sociopathy, but you're smug about it so now you lose the argument.
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Dec 25, 2015 14:39
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Haha right. Anyone who votes Republican right now because guns will still vote Republican after that happens and the GOP runs a law and order campaign scaremongering about white-hating liberals giving inner-city thugs guns.
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Dec 25, 2015 15:05
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I'm voting for the Kaiser's war on France so the old order will destroy itself and my socialist paradise will arise like a phoenix from the ashes to redeem mankind.
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Dec 26, 2015 14:26
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Obdicut posted:It's kind of cool thinking about the variety, actually. Ancient Egypt: Just a fuckton of waxing and waning over thousands of years, one of the most long-lasting empires of all time, and yet there were times it barely existed, where it looked as though it would vanish. Ghenghis Kahn's empire rose like a flood, and then after his death, split into smaller but still quite stable empires. Rome: a slow local rise, a faster conquering of surrounding lands, a stagnation, a split into West and East with West resurging and falling back over and over, finally basically being absorbed by Germanic kingdoms and transforming them into a much more "Roman" one that lasted a hell of a long time itself, up until the age of gunpowder. The East changing and mutating but hanging on, sometimes basically just Byzantium. I wonder if Middle Kingdom Egypt had dudes sitting around going "you know, we really should be trying to wreck our society and everything that sustains us has hard and as fast and as destructively as possible, then the next generation will see where we all went wrong and will build a perfect new kingdom that will never die"
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