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slumdoge millionare
Feb 17, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer
Since Quidam Viator will never get off his sorry rear end and do this thing, here we loving go.

quote:

Quidam Viator
If not after this election, then just one or two more.

It's not like the shitstorm of retarded conservative feelings that Trump et al are stirring up are some loving fad that's just going to... magically go away if a Democrat wins the presidency. No, dumbasses, it's BETTER for there to be an Obama for them to blame, and buck against and just use as an utter loving scapegoat to eat up all the attention while they assrape the country from the county and state level ALLLL the way up through loving Congress. This is what you call a "win-win" for conservatives; all they rely upon is you still believing that effort from within this system is going to change a goddamn thing. Then, every drat election they don't win just gives a few more years for graft and rape, a few more years to rile the base, a few more years to grow more vicious, more angry, more panicked. By all means, keep sincerely voting for those Democrats!

gently caress, my accelerationist heart has grown three loving sizes since I last checked in on SA's election threads. At this point, there are literally no good answers if you are trying to sincerely vote for "good outcomes". Honestly, the BEST thing for the GOP and American conservatives is for a Democrat to win. Then they get either 4 or 8 more years to absolutely assrape America, shut down budgets, keep trying to defund everything from Obamacare to Planned Parenthood, while some sad-sack, isolated Democrat in the loving Oval tries to play defensive ball with legislative minorities all the way down to loving dogcatcher. MEANWHILE, all that happens is that the mere fact that a Democrat WON AGAIN will make The Onion's "Shrieking, White-Hot Sphere of Pure Rage" look like a tempest in a loving teacup. Look at the poo poo they're already comfortable saying: it's loving fascism, and they are getting away with it, and socking away the cash from the legions of assholes who feel like they're FINALLY BEING HEARD. God, what a win for assholes everywhere if EITHER Democrat wins. Of course, there's decades of loving butthurt and insane, incomprehensible rage against Hillary, but holy poo poo! If Bernie, by some freak accident, were to squeak out a win? How the gently caress many of TODAY'S Democrats are going to caucus with him with the wind blowing the way it is? If you are still out there thinking that if only you put a D in the White House, that America can be saved, you are the problem in America, and you are the GOP's best friend.

Yeah, their second choice is for their establishment boy to win. Then we get the strangling in the streets business, but medium-style. Now there is absolutely no barrier whatsoever for a complete turnover of the Supreme Court to the Business Court, and we see the power of a fully-armed and operational establishment GOP. They can use the Teabaggers as they wish, and still run the boards, because their poo poo is conservative ENOUGH: military pork, surveillance, killing net neutrality, destroying unions, the post office, etc, etc...

But the third choice is my FAVORITE, and I don't need any loving Christmas presents because you know what? Mine has already arrived. There's a chance that a true rear end in a top hat wins this thing, and the fact that the CHANCE exists means it will soon be time for every do-gooder, middle-of the road "we have to work within this good and still-viable system" rear end in a top hat to get off their rear end before they are rounded up for the concentration camps along with me. gently caress, if Trump wins, he taps into the profit-driven, absolutely-uncontrolled id of EVERYTHING in this country: from the media, to the military, to business, to the beating heart of red-state America. And it will be horrific. Everything begins to march in lockstep time, and oh yes... America will be "Great" again. But like I said; he doesn't even have to win. He has validated the concept that a fascist, never-served-in-the-military-OR-in-any-government-position rear end in a top hat can stroll up to the presidential trough and BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. It doesn't have to work this time, because there will be a next. And a next, and a next, and a next, and that means the end of the American Republic. And good loving riddance.

There's about a 50/50 chance we come out of the nightmare of that transition in a world completely ruined. The only SURE THING is that if a Democrat keeps taking the White House while Republicans and the loving Koch Brothers and Adelsons of the world run the actual show, that climate change, financial rape, resource depletion, and absolute failure to govern will destroy all of human society. There has never before in history been such a position where doing the same thing has been such a sure ticket to absolute ruin. We are in that position right now: we have the power to simply keep doing what we're doing, and we're guaranteed an extinction event.

So before you call me loving insane like you always do, you tell me what your BEST-CASE-SCENARIO is, and how it solves any of these global-magnitude problems within a timespan that saves all life on Earth. Until then, loving pray for President Trump, and hope that the sheer horror of that man and his actions actually wakes up America and the world to our own loving goddamn idiocy, and sheer, gutless apathy before we render this entire planet sterile.

I've always wanted to say this, and drat it feels good: THE END IS NIGH, MOTHERFUCKERS!

Acceleration 2016.

He makes a decent drat point. There really is no hope, is there? Moderate Republicans get primaried, moderate Democrats don't matter because the eternal font of hatred the loving gun wielding psychos listen to openly advocate purging the unamerican LIEberal DEMONRAT scum who MURDER BABIES and WANT TO BUGGER YOU. Is it just too loving late, should be go ahead and shove the car off the cliff it's teetering on?

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slumdoge millionare
Feb 17, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer
This guy is really something.

quote:

During the hearing, the judge issued a gag order for law enforcement and the parties involved. As the judge and attorneys were discussing who was included in the gag order, Dear interrupted.

"The babies that were supposed to be aborted that day, could you add them to that list?" he said.

King requested that the judge order prompt discovery in the case so the defense team can learn "the depth of Mr. Dear's mental illness."

Dear interrupted, "You're not my lawyer."

King told the judge the sharing of evidence was vital. "It's rather ironic that prosecutors have not disclosed one piece of evidence," he started.

Dear interrupted, "You're trying to silence me."

King told the judge "I think the problem is obvious, your honor."

...

The judge spoke to Dear and advised him of his right to a preliminary hearing within 35 days.

Dear told the the judge, "Planned Parenthood and my lawyer are in cahoots because they don't want the truth out."

King told the judge he wasn't confident that his client was competent to make a choice about his legal rights.

Dear interrupted, saying, "I'm competent."

He went on, "I'm not going to agree to mental health evaluations so they can't put me on psychotropic drugs so I can't talk like the Batman guy."

LITERALLY the topic. This is the actual thing that has caught on with about 50% of the country, and it's not getting any better. Obama was supposed to bridge the divide- we saw how loving far THAT got. Oh, and as far as people currently slated to next become POTUS- we have a woman who has been hated vitriolically by the right for multiple decades, a literal socialist Jew, a guy threatening religious registries and ethnic cleansing, and a guy who recently attended a conference where the founder was calling for the execution of gays. Could this be fixed? At all?

slumdoge millionare
Feb 17, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer

quote:


Supreme Court nominees still require the Democrats to have a presence in the senate, and if the GOP controls state governments then they can employ all kinds of dirty tricks to suppress voter turnout. Who knows how far a demographically shrinking Republican party might go in suppressing voter turnout and redistricting the House... especially if white nationalists take on a larger role in the party.

When I said "does it matter" i was being rhetorical. Yes of course it makes a difference who sits in the White House. But my point is that future Democratic presidents will have extremely limited room to maneuvre, and it can't even be taken for granted that Democrats will maintain their lock on the White House if every other major lever of the federal government remains in the hands of the GOP.



Compelling arguments, all. What alternative is there to accelerationism, after every attempt to move the Overton Window left is met with homophobia, Islamophobia, death threats, claims of treason, and just general crankiness, with the reactionaries getting daily infusions of hate? How can the reactionaries be convinced?

slumdoge millionare
Feb 17, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer

Wheeee posted:

Acquaint their heads with the pavement.

There are two paths forward: Violently reject the system, or work within it.

You are advocating giving up in a manner that allows you to continue stroking your ego, making you a fool and a coward.

Except you're ignoring that it's very obviously impossible to work within it, and that violent revolution will be annihilated by the powers that be via drone, bearcat, machine gun and Spec Ops infiltration. Crazy dudes who drop the word "nuke" beneath a bridge somewhere find themselves being prosecuted for terrorism, thanks to some handholding via the FBI. So, both inside the system and outside the system and equally void options.

slumdoge millionare
Feb 17, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer

Patrick Spens posted:

Politics you silly whiner. And you don't need to convince the reactionaries, you just need to convince enough other people that they are wrong and should be ignored, and lo, progress will happen.

I'm right!

*fails to convince reactionaries*

*Marches to my death 'neath the yooge and luxooorious Zyklon showerheads*

slumdoge millionare
Feb 17, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer

RODNEY THE RACEHOR posted:

Do Not Give Sass to Me; a Population Bottle Neck is a reduction of the Population but Extinction is not a Possibility; however if the Climate under goes dramatic Change there will be a Distinct Possibility of Full Extinction; due to on going Effects of Climate Change on the Weather; Creatures; Human Health and Disease; etcetera; however a Major Depopulation Event (e.g. [for example] a Meteor Impact; a Solar Flare; Yellow Stone Super Volcano Eruption) will cause relatively few on going Effects; the Population that survives the initial disaster will likely survive to Reproduce; and Repopulate. You do not know any thing about Extinction Events; or Cheetahs; Genetic Diversity is not a Selected Trait; it is a Disaster Event for a Species.

I do not think you are a troll, however, I think you may be Schizophrenic. Have you ever been checked?

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slumdoge millionare
Feb 17, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer

Woolie Wool posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophasia

According to Prester John, all the capitalized words are used for concepts invented by the schizophrenic person that cannot really be translated into normal language, either because they're extremely esoteric (like her capital-A Authoritarians) or they just make no sense.

E: it's actually strange to me that we even call it "schizophrenia" because it seems to be less about splitting things (the schiz- prefix) than about interweaving every single idea ever into an impenetrable tangle of overlapping patterns, hence why they so often go for conspiracy theories, since the reality they perceive might as well be one giant conspiracy theory.

Premise is that the schiz is due to a split with reality,

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