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Ever wonder what it's like to be a gambler? Have questions about the gaming community? Need strategy for your favorite vice...er I mean, game? Wonder how people like me sleep at night after profiting from people's poor choices in life? Ask away! I've been dealing table games for a year now and I've never had a job I enjoyed more. Its definitely not a job for everyone though. Drunks and rude people happen, but unlike other jobs the casinos will generally not allow any kind of disrespect towards the staff. To give you an idea, here is a typical day in the life of a table games dealer. We punch in and arrive in "the pit" for our preshift meeting. We're sent to a table where we deal games for anywhere from an hour to an hour and forty minutes then given a twenty minute break and sent to another table. This repeats for eight hours. It sounds monotonous and it is if you're on a dead table but if you've got a good table of positive people and especially winning tippers you'll have a great time. I love to see people win...unless your annoying or a cheapskate. Then I'll just let karma sort you out while I try to deal before you can get your side bet out.
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Does most of your income rely on tips? Do dealers have a certain gregarious sort of personality?
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Dec 10, 2015 11:46
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Is there really any chance of someone making a living at this? or Will the Mafia smash my legs if I win over >$100000?
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Dec 10, 2015 11:51
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Tenacious J posted:Does most of your income rely on tips? About 3/4's of my income comes from tips but its pretty steady. All dealer tips are pooled and divided by the number of hours worked so if you have a bad night or a slow shift you're not screwed on your check. Most successful dealers tend to have an outgoing personality but you'll also find quiet dealers too. Some players want a dealer who just deals as fast as they can and not say a word. Some players want a dealer who is going to entertain them or give them advice. Dealers tend to be like bartenders in that regard. inokichi posted:Is there really any chance of someone making a living at this? or Will the Mafia smash my legs if I win over >$100000? Making a living gambling? Maybe as a poker player. But anything else is just playing the odds. There are what's called advantage players who can get an edge on the house with smart decisions and card counting but it would be very hard to make a living gambling. And no, no one is going to smash anyone's legs. You may get asked to leave though, because as a business we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.
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Dec 10, 2015 12:48
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What if we're asked to leave and we come back with a fake mustache on?
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Dec 10, 2015 15:13
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Mahnarch posted:What if we're asked to leave and we come back with a fake mustache on? Hope the gaming officers have a sense of humor then or you'll be arrested for trespassing.
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Dec 10, 2015 22:08
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Is there any training or policy with regard to spotting problem gamblers? Is this policy followed, or are you unofficially encouraged to take the clothes off their backs?
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Dec 10, 2015 22:29
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Soylent Yellow posted:Is there any training or policy with regard to spotting problem gamblers? Is this policy followed, or are you unofficially encouraged to take the clothes off their backs? We are trained to spot both problem gamblers and problem drinkers. Dealers however have little to do with problem gamblers. There are measures in place to help these individuals, its just not handled at my level. As for taking the clothes off their back, if someone puts a bet in the circle I am required by state law to start dealing. So if by encouraged you mean "don't want to lose my gaming liscense", then yes.
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Dec 10, 2015 22:39
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Stormfang1502 posted:We are trained to spot both problem gamblers and problem drinkers. Dealers however have little to do with problem gamblers. There are measures in place to help these individuals, its just not handled at my level. Can you expand on the measures to help people? I understand that casinos are required to have gambling addiction help in advertisements, etc but would think they would try to do everything they could to minimize the impact as it impacts their profits.
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Dec 10, 2015 23:34
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asur posted:Can you expand on the measures to help people? I understand that casinos are required to have gambling addiction help in advertisements, etc but would think they would try to do everything they could to minimize the impact as it impacts their profits. There are regulations in place that only allow for someone to lose so much money per hour, but its high enough that it generally doesn't impact anyone's ability to play unless you want to bet $1000 a hand. They'll easily let someone blow their whole paycheck in a night but if a player gets down more than ten grand or so they will be monitored.
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Dec 11, 2015 00:31
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How much do you make? How many hours a week do you work?
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Dec 12, 2015 04:13
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Per posted:How much do you make? How many hours a week do you work? We make server pay (generally $4.50 ish per hour) and toke rate (our tips). Tokes are pooled between dealers and then split (total tokes divided by total # of dealer hours worked = toke rate or per hour wage). I know of casinos that have a $40/hour toke rate. This also ties into how many hours we work. Overtime is frowned upon by everyone and you will never see any unless there is no choice. The reason being that more hours lowers our toke rate and we only get overtime pay on our server wage. To help we have an "early out" list, or simply the "E.O.". Sign it anytime during your shift and if its slow enough you'll be sent home early. It can hurt you though. Some shifts catch more EOs than others and if you sign every night you can find yourself looking at a small check. I generally work 32-38 hours a week, though we are short on dealers at my casino and I just worked 48. Also with our break schedule we generally only work 6 out of every 8 hours on the clock If you can call it "work" that is.
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Dec 12, 2015 12:27
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Are there any stereotypes when it comes to gamblers? If you start at a new table, do you already know how the new group will react during the game?
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Dec 12, 2015 13:05
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I'm assuming you work in the US, but is it Vegas, Atlantic City, or elsewhere? I've only been to Vegas for work (I don't gamble), but I've heard the culture between the two gambling Meccas is vastly different - is that something you can comment on from experience? What game(s) do you deal? Do you see mostly younger or older gamblers? I'm in my early 30s and among my friends, the only people I know who gamble regularly bet exclusively on sports. I don't know anyone who plays table games - Vegas seems to be strictly a party destination these days for my generation. Obligatory "what's the best/worst/funniest/dumbest" thing you've seen in your job? Also, thanks for reinforcing that dealers generally want players to win - I've always suspected that (it improves tips, and it's not like it's their money that's walking out the door), but it's nice to see a good attitude about it.
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Dec 12, 2015 13:06
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nononsense posted:Are there any stereotypes when it comes to gamblers? If you start at a new table, do you already know how the new group will react during the game? I type my players into 4 different groups; positive players, negative players, "fleas", and foreign players. Positive players don't expect to win every time, are generous if they do, and are polite and respectful at all times. Everyone in the casino loves these people and we will do anything we can to accommodate them. Negative players are similar to positive players except they are either very bad at the games or can't believe their strategy isn't working and they want someone to blame. They're generally not a problem but can pretty annoying when they over-exaggerate their losses, i.e. "This dealer gets 20 every time". "Fleas" are the worst of the stereotypes. These players typically play the table minimum, always complain even if doing well, rarely tip even if doing well, and are generally unpleasant people. A table full of them can really make your time drag. Hate to see them lose but love to see them leave. Foreign players tend to stick together and don't interact with dealers a lot. Most are very knowledgeable of the games and don't generally cause trouble for the dealers. They're probably the most neutral group. If you've got a table full of asians you won't be hassled but you'll be bored. I can tell who is who within 3 hands.
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Dec 12, 2015 14:25
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Shooting Blanks posted:I'm assuming you work in the US, but is it Vegas, Atlantic City, or elsewhere? I've only been to Vegas for work (I don't gamble), but I've heard the culture between the two gambling Meccas is vastly different - is that something you can comment on from experience? I work in the midwest so I can't really comment. Shooting Blanks posted:What game(s) do you deal? I currently deal two different blackjacks (21+3 and Double Deck), Mississippi Stud, Three Card Poker, Ultimate Texas Holdem, and High Card Flush. Basically just blackjack and "carnival games" as they are called. This business has kind of a "if you want it then take it" approach to advancement, meaning if you want to get ahead or have options then you better take it upon yourself to learn as much as you can so Im studying both baccarat and craps right now in my off time. Shooting Blanks posted:Do you see mostly younger or older gamblers? I'm in my early 30s and among my friends, the only people I know who gamble regularly bet exclusively on sports. I don't know anyone who plays table games - Vegas seems to be strictly a party destination these days for my generation. Gambling is beautiful in a way because it is a vice that knows no age or race. I've had doctors and their wives on the same table as grandmas and thugged-out O.G.s and everyone is high-fiving and fist bumping everyone else. The players come from all walks of life. And vegas is still the mecca of gambling in this hemisphere, the party atmosphere will always be there but most all serious high stakes gambling happens there. Atlantic City however has been going down since the 90's due to the number of new casinos popping up at that time. It also suffers from being in New Jersey. Shooting Blanks posted:Obligatory "what's the best/worst/funniest/dumbest" thing you've seen in your job? Hooker stories are always great. Once there was this middle-aged asian guy at the table and this girl had been playing some but mostly talking to him. They left for about 30 minutes and came back. An older lady at the table innocently asked them "Did you go eat?" And without the slightest sense of shame he smiled and said "No, she sucked my pee-pee for money!" Shooting Blanks posted:Also, thanks for reinforcing that dealers generally want players to win - I've always suspected that (it improves tips, and it's not like it's their money that's walking out the door), but it's nice to see a good attitude about it. Thanks man. I won't lie, there are some occasions where I want someone to lose but generally if you're not an rear end or whiner then I hope you win regardless of if you tip me or not (I may be the exception to the rule on that last bit though).
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Stormfang1502 posted:We make server pay (generally $4.50 ish per hour) and toke rate (our tips). Tokes are pooled between dealers and then split (total tokes divided by total # of dealer hours worked = toke rate or per hour wage). I know of casinos that have a $40/hour toke rate. That sounds great. So how much do you make?
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Dec 12, 2015 16:38
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Per posted:That sounds great. So how much do you make? $20-$25/hour at my casino.
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Dec 12, 2015 22:58
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Are you on a rez casino like Flandreau or Shakopee? Or in one of the states with a zillion video poker places? If yes, do you find that either of those things effect the crowd you get? Like the nearest place that has table games to me is in western Iowa, and you can tell the people that think that the table is like video poker/blackjack, and then are amazed that the odds are different.
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Dec 13, 2015 06:17
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AA is for Quitters posted:Are you on a rez casino like Flandreau or Shakopee? Or in one of the states with a zillion video poker places? I work for a gaming company, not an indian casino. Also there are no video poker arcades in my state, bars may have a few machines that may or may not be legal but nothing like those little arcades that are popping up in other states. This was one of the first states to legalize river boat casinos back in the 90's and there are less than 20 places in the state to gamble (not counting bingo). As for the players confusing the games, doesn't really happen. Most players will tell you if they have no clue and want help or not. The closest thing would have to be people who confuse carnival games for blackjack and people who don't check the table minimum before they buy in.
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Dec 13, 2015 13:50
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I assume you know what the ideal strategy for blackjack (and the other games you deal) is - will you tell people what the right move is if they ask you? Does management mind if you do this? From what I understand, poker dealers are usually separate from the other table game dealers, is that right? Do they still tend to work on a shift-based tipping system? I've always wondered how casinos enforce black books and people who have requested not to be let in (problem gamblers). Is it really possible to keep track of that many players, or are they just hoping someone happens to recognize you if you're not supposed to be in there? Have you ever seen advantage players get kicked out? Is it your job to signal the floor if you spot a suspected advantage player, or does the floor just keep an eye on that? You mentioned you're trying to learn more games, is that just to make sure you can secure more shifts, or are there some games that actually get paid more? How much room for advancement is there in general?
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Sorry for the delay, I've been working an unusual number of hours recently and fatigue had caught up to me. Tonight made up for it though, after a mediocre but busy weekend I had a steady night where I got some big payouts to some great players who were very generous to us dealers and I made people laugh. Even though we split those tokes between dealers its nice to go back to the break room and say "I just dropped $500 in the box bitches!" while also telling the dealers who we need to be taking care of. If you ever hear one dealer tell another "Take care of this guy right here" then you can rest assured we are looking out for your best interest.Imaduck posted:I assume you know what the ideal strategy for blackjack (and the other games you deal) is - will you tell people what the right move is if they ask you? Does management mind if you do this? All dealers are encouraged to learn "basic strategy" and to only dispense that advice. The reason being isn't because the casino wants the player to lose, its because the dealer can't be blamed for the advice given. If a player gets upset that he lost a good bet (such as doubling down on an 11 against a dealer 6) then most every player and all staff will point out that we are indeed correct and can be easily corroborated by multiple sources. With that being said if any player asks me for advice I'll give basic strategy. If I like the player I'll give them basic strategy and what I think they should do if I don't agree with basic strategy in that instance. I don't always follow basic strategy on some things but I tend to be a more conservative player since I don't really gamble much. Management doesn't really care as long as it doesn't cause a problem. The games already have a house edge in most cases so we need people to win. If no one ever wins then we would shut down from lack of business. Imaduck posted:
Poker dealers are also table games dealers but clock their hours differently. They may start in one and be sent to the other as needed in most cases (There is one exclusive poker dealer at our casino). They just go back to the time clock and swap out before changing tables. They get base wage plus keep their own poker tips. They do not get a toke rate during these hours. That being said some poker players are very generous and a $100,000 bad beat jackpot my net a dealer a $5000 tip or more. Imaduck posted:
This actually not handled by the casino, this is handled by the gaming officers. Gaming officers are the very polite, very large men in very large suits, with very large bulges underneath those suits. They are actually State Highway Patrol Officers on special assignment. All state gaming is controlled by the state police. I won't say much more in order to protect them but they basically tell the casino who can and who can not be there and there and we ask them to leave if identified. Imaduck posted:Have you ever seen advantage players get kicked out? Is it your job to signal the floor if you spot a suspected advantage player, or does the floor just keep an eye on that? No, not personally. I've been told to watch certain players on some high stakes tables and I've seen dealers changed on a high stakes table for no logistical reason but that's about it. Most of these guys know when we're on to them and they know when to walk away. They usually dont tip unless its in their best interest (i.e. they don't want to appear to be an advantage player) but otherwise they don't hassle the dealer because they don't want to cause a scene. I could probably ask the guy for his wife's phone number and call his momma a bitch as long he was winning. In fact the floor would love it if I could rattle his cage as long as I was subtle enough not to get written up about it. Imaduck posted:You mentioned you're trying to learn more games, is that just to make sure you can secure more shifts, or are there some games that actually get paid more? How much room for advancement is there in general? Personally I want to learn more games so I'm more useful and valuable to the casino because I love my job and I'm not lazy about it. I'm a game behind two of the guys I went to school with but neither of them know craps yet and I want to beat them to that table just so I can gently caress with them. Also a dealer who knows all the games gets a higher base wage so there's also that. I work nights though so I never have to worry about not getting enough hours. I'm getting an 87.5 hour check this week which is pretty high in this job where most get 65-70. Still wouldn't trade it for days though. They may work less hours but they stand there for hours doing nothing if they're lucky. If not lucky then they may as well be calling a bingo game in a nursing home. As for advancement you can pretty much go as far as you want. Our GM is an old school Atlantic City dealer with many years of experience in the industry. You can start at the bottom and reach the top if you're willing to put in the time and effort. There are only 2 states in the nation that don't have legalized gambling in some form so if you have enough experience and are willing to move you never really have to worry about looking for a job and some areas pay a higher toke rate than others. I've heard of dealers in Vegas that make over $100k per year. I know of one casino where the dealers can make $40-$50 per hour but in order to be hired in you have to hire in as a floor supervisor and wait until you were able to demote yourself to dealer because the dealers were making more than the floor. If you just want to make a good living but not set the industry on fire you have that option too. Its also something you can do in retirement part time and make good money.
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Dec 15, 2015 13:30
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I'm curious about where/how long you trained. Was there a course you had to sign up for? If so, how much did it cost and what did it entail? Also how does casino uniforming work? Does rental/purchase/cleaning come out of your salary?
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Dec 16, 2015 04:27
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How often do you see statistical anomalies, a.k.a gamblers actually winning big money?
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Dec 16, 2015 11:34
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Captain Finance posted:I'm curious about where/how long you trained. Was there a course you had to sign up for? If so, how much did it cost and what did it entail? I'll answer the uniform question first since its short. I was given 2 normal everyday shirts, 1 tuxedo shirt for certain occasions, two pair of pants, and an apron. I had to buy a pair of black safety shoes since I didn't already have a pair. If there's ever a problem I just swap them out and I'm responsible for laundering them. As for training, it started just like most job with answering an ad on a job website. I was asked to come in for an interview at my local casino. When I got there I met the general manager of the table games department who asked me about my experience in customer service and explained to me the benefits and downsides of the business. I was then given a timed math test to make sure I had the basic skills needed. Class started the next week with 4 hour classes, 5 days a week, for 5 weeks. This is not paid training and we were not employed by the casino at this time. We were also not guaranteed a job at the end of school. About half of my class dropped after the first week. We focused exclusively on blackjack the entire time. Our class was taught to us by one of the casino floor supervisors. At the end of the 5 weeks the supervisor would either let you go or pass you back to the table games manager to pass an audition. During this they would set up scenarios and ask us to deal a normal game. They would intentionally do things that are not permitted to see if we would catch it or not. At the end I passed and was offered a part time position as a table games dealer. This is how small casinos do it. In larger areas like Vegas or Tunica there are actual casino colleges that will teach you all the games and help with job placement for about $18000. Also if anyone is curious to know about the games I deal beside blackjack, http://www.table-games-online.com is a good, simple, and free way to learn them all.
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Dec 16, 2015 11:39
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I used to work as a dealer in London (roulette, blackjack, punto banco, monkey games and poker occasionally) so I'd be happy to answer any questions too. How big is the place you work? I think the biggest difference between UK (and European I guess) casinos and US ones is the size. The maximum number of slot machines we're allowed to have is 40, and since those are where most of the money comes from the casinos tend to be built around those. The place I worked had 5 roulette tables, 4 blackjacks, a punto banco, 3 card poker and another carnival game I can't even remember now so it was pretty small. You said poker dealers also deal table games, do you have any sort of licencing? In the UK to work in the gambling industry you need a PFL (Personal Functional Licence) or another one I've forgotten the initials of for management positions, PML I guess. However you don't need one of these to deal poker so usually poker dealers get lower wages and are separate from the croupiers. I would occasionally have to deal poker to cover breaks or absences, but poker is really easy to deal and the tables were down the other end of the casino next to the TVs showing sports so it was a nice break. Holy poo poo $18000 for training! Did you add an extra zero by mistake? They used to do in house training in the UK but nowadays they mainly hire out of training schools, I payed about £1000 for my course which was 6 weeks long and we did roulette, blackjack and some monkey games then they hooked me up with a job afterwards. What's the worst customer you've had to deal with so far?
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thrakkorzog posted:How often do you see statistical anomalies, a.k.a gamblers actually winning big money? It's like the lottery, someone winning isn't really an anomaly, it's expected. The strange thing would be if no one won many lotteries in a row. If no one wins, no one would ever play there. Now winning consistently? That's a completely different story- and if someone was doing that they'd most likely be breaking the rules and/or the law. inokichi posted:Is there really any chance of someone making a living at this? or Will the Mafia smash my legs if I win over >$100000? It's like the above, constantly winning enough to make a living means you are cheating and in states like Nevada actually breaking the law. The only real exception where you'd only be breaking the rules is card counting, but that's been almost entirely neutered by deck sizes and other small rule changes. For example some places do single deck blackjack but change the blackjack payout from 3:2 to 6:5. That small difference actually completely negates any advantage counting can bring you- the small edge counting gives you is basically entirely from betting big when a blackjack is likely.
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Checking in as an east coast (US) dealer. I spent some time in Atlantic City and moved to a different city after things started shutting down, although as of recent I've gone back to school. I mostly did craps, but have experience in more or less all the core table games except pai-gow poker/tiles, and I got my start in blackjack and baccarat (European/UK dealers often refer to the same game as 'punto banco', presumably because a different form of baccarat still exists infrequently over there). At all my workplaces, poker was a completely seperate department. Poker dealers would never deal table games and vice versa, minus that one time where they were shorthanded for a tournament and offered extra hours to table games dealers with prior experience. In the US, licensing is determined per-state as well. I had to get one license in Atlantic City and, when I moved, had to start that state's licensing process pretty much from scratch. It's not generally too arduous as long as your background checks are clean and, depending on the state, you have sufficient qualifications. I'm also a little curious how call bets are handled on roulette over there (in the UK)—they don't really exist here, if someone told me they wanted $15 on Tiers I'd just kind of look at them funny. E4C85D38 fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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Have any stories about gambling addicts? Like ever have anyone sell something significant like a car or other expensive possession just so they could gamble more and hope they get the price of the car back and more to buy a better car? Its more of a feeding an addiction question rather than trying to get a better car
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Dec 17, 2015 19:15
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Now that you're employed, are they paying you for your training for learning the new games?
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Dec 17, 2015 21:22
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Dealing craps seems life one of the toughest jobs in the house. Does it pay more?
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Jimmy Little Balls posted:I used to work as a dealer in London (roulette, blackjack, punto banco, monkey games and poker occasionally) so I'd be happy to answer any questions too. That's awesome, I've been a little curious as to how things work over there myself. Feel free to add or expand upon anything. Jimmy Little Balls posted:How big is the place you work? I think the biggest difference between UK (and European I guess) casinos and US ones is the size. The maximum number of slot machines we're allowed to have is 40, and since those are where most of the money comes from the casinos tend to be built around those. The place I worked had 5 roulette tables, 4 blackjacks, a punto banco, 3 card poker and another carnival game I can't even remember now so it was pretty small. It's a smaller casino by US standards, but still a lot bigger than yours. We have probably close to 1000 slot machines surrounding our two table games pits. Pit 1 is our normal pit with pit 2 only being opened on high volume days and weekends. Pit 1 has roulette, craps, baccarat, mini-bac, 4 carnival games, and 6 blackjack tables. Pit 2 has another craps tables and 7 blackjack tables. We have a separate area for poker that has 5 tables. Jimmy Little Balls posted:You said poker dealers also deal table games, do you have any sort of licencing? In the UK to work in the gambling industry you need a PFL (Personal Functional Licence) or another one I've forgotten the initials of for management positions, PML I guess. However you don't need one of these to deal poker so usually poker dealers get lower wages and are separate from the croupiers. I would occasionally have to deal poker to cover breaks or absences, but poker is really easy to deal and the tables were down the other end of the casino next to the TVs showing sports so it was a nice break. We have a very stringent pre-employment background check. This is what bars a lot of people from being able to get a job as a dealer. This check is given by some third party the casino hires. Its done by the state police, and you have to list EVERY little violation you may have had. Even if a judge or lawyer tell you that you do not have to list it on a pre-employment check. When I moved into a new apartment recently my landlord was going to run a background check prior to signing a lease until he saw what I did for a living and said "You know, I can't buy a background check better than what you went through already." and skipped that part. Once you pass the check the state will issue you a state gaming license and then the casino can hire you. This applies to table games and poker. Our poker room doesnt always have a game so the dealers are on table games until needed. They're paid the same as table games unless they are dealing poker, then they get their base wage plus keep their own poker tips. Jimmy Little Balls posted:Holy poo poo $18000 for training! Did you add an extra zero by mistake? They used to do in house training in the UK but nowadays they mainly hire out of training schools, I payed about £1000 for my course which was 6 weeks long and we did roulette, blackjack and some monkey games then they hooked me up with a job afterwards. I should have said up to $18,000, but yes. The schools charge for each game and the class for each game can be $1,000 to $3,000 each depending on the competition in the area and they do offer financial aid just like a regular college. All my training is done in house now, the casino offers classes for free but they are off the clock. You can audition for a new game anytime though if you think you have it. If you do well enough they'll let the pit bosses know and they'll start sending you to those tables. A dealer who can deal all the games does get a small bump on their base wage too. Jimmy Little Balls posted:What's the worst customer you've had to deal with so far? There's one player who's there about 3 nights a week. I call her "The Vulture". She's only there to play the 3-card sidebet on the blackjack tables, she wouldnt even play blackjack if she didnt have to. She'll take up a spot on the table and only play maybe 1 out of 5 hands or whenever she thinks "its due to hit". Nasty attitude the entire time. And just then when you think she's done, she'll push her last $20 in chips to you and ask for singles and spends the rest of the night waiting for someone else to start winning on their own 3-card bet so she can pester them to let her play on top of their bet.
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stringball posted:Have any stories about gambling addicts? I've seen lots of problem gamblers, but I don't know what most of them do or sell to get their money to gamble with. Nearly all have legitimate jobs, its just that they could do better if they were a little more moderate with their time on the table. That being said, I've seen some sad poo poo, like pregnant women having contractions at the blackjack table and still playing for hours and people being asked to leave because they left their kids unattended in the lobby so they could gamble.
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Imaduck posted:Now that you're employed, are they paying you for your training for learning the new games? Free classes off the clock. The casino is only going to promote people who show their interest so you need to show some initiative. Besides the more games you know, the easier it is to get a job somewhere else if you want to. Experienced dealers don't have to look hard for a job and there are only 2 states that do not have casino gaming of some kind. I don't know if I want to be promoted or not but I want to move in a few years.
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Lincoln posted:Dealing craps seems life one of the toughest jobs in the house. Does it pay more? Doesn't pay more and it does have a lot of action to keep up with, but you work with a team and a hot craps table is one of the most fun places to be dealing. Its not a "player vs dealer" game and since everyone is pretty much betting together there's a lot more of a friendly and positive atmosphere.
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Dec 18, 2015 03:29
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In Cleveland dealers aren't allowed to gamble at the casino and a lot of them are gamblers and terrible ones on top of that so they play poker at the local games. Are you a gambler at all? Do you feel like you have an advantage at the games you have dealt when you play? Also is there a lot of dealer player relationships? I know the casino bans them but I know at least 10 poker players loving dealers and I find it hilarious the casino doesn't know about it considering everyone else does.
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Dec 18, 2015 03:42
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jase1 posted:Also is there a lot of dealer player relationships? I know the casino bans them but I know at least 10 poker players loving dealers and I find it hilarious the casino doesn't know about it considering everyone else does. Poker is a little different in most aspects and because the house isn't directly playing against poker players often the poker room doesn't care about this like the floor would. It varies from place to place but almost all of the dealers play and relationships are really common between those groups.
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Dec 18, 2015 04:06
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When someone is asked to leave for winning too much or whatever, is that a permanent ban, or could it just be for a few days or weeks? Any interesting encounters with cheats or people trying to scam other players?
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Dec 18, 2015 05:03
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Does the house really always win? serious question: what's a "side-bet"? You mentioned in a couple of your posts.
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Antoine Silvere posted:Does the house really always win? The games are rigged are setup so the house always wins. The laws of statistics are a cruel bitch, and the people who run casinos know them better than gamblers. Blackjack is about the only game where a skilled player can beat the house advantage by counting cards, and it's usually easy to spot a card counter. If someone who spent an hour at the $5 a hand blackjack table suddenly starts betting $200 a hand, he will be asked to leave the casino by very large men, and told in no uncertain terms not to come back. Personally, I prefer playing Craps, just because it has the lowest house edge, and a hot craps table is electrifying. I know I'm going to lose money, but it's a fun way to spend an evening. As for side bets, it's fairly simple idea, it's just making bets about gambling. Craps tables are full of them. Odds are if you take a pair of dice, 7 is the number most likely number to show up. But it's not a given, so I can bet $5 that somebody rolls an 8 or a 6 before they roll a seven. That's a side bet. thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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