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Roman's 20 minute promo opening Raw tomorrow is gonna be so good I can't wait! 
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:The rear end Kicker is cool and his entrance deserves cheers. i will ruin him with thunderous boos and the sheeple at texas stadium will follow my lead
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Dec 14, 2015 05:28
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Oh Snapple! posted:what i and a lot of other people saw saw was a really loving boring match and most people don't give a single solitary poo poo about "risks" or what they're attempting to do. we want to be entertained,. they failed to do this. If you blame the company I would agree. But both men really tried their best today.
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Dec 14, 2015 05:28
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Rude fans have refused to get behind Sheamus since 2009. hosed up imo.
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Dec 14, 2015 05:29
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Hammerstein posted:Really ? It doesn't matter whose fault how lovely the booking or writing is, storytelling's a huge part of wrestling and if the WWE makes it impossible to invest in any of the characters then it isn't the crowd's fault.
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Dec 14, 2015 05:29
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Dandy GO posted:Roman's 20 minute promo opening Raw tomorrow is gonna be so good I can't wait! It'll prob/hopefully be like Michael Cole Or Whoever: Hey Roman tell us why you did that (Roman spears them and leaves)
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Dec 14, 2015 05:29
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SamuraiFoochs posted:But see that's the thing. Austin sold a lot and made big comebacks. So did Rock. That match was actually perfect. The problem is him cutting lengthy promos and jokey jokes. and if I remember correctly, back then they had Vince and Trips to cut lengthy promos and all Austin had to do was get in their faces and go "EH EH AUSTIN 3:16 BOTTOM LINE CAN O WHOOP rear end *flips bird* *stunner* *runs mouth off mic*" why can't they do the same with Roman with all the talky heels they have?
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Dec 14, 2015 05:29
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OldTennisCourt posted:No one here is saying the crowd should have obeyed the WWE Overlords and cheered at every correct moment, what people are saying is it's pretty loving lame to be dead silent while two dude beat the dog poo poo out of each other in an okay match. It's neither dude's fault the match wasn't amazing and the end was a garbage fart. I'm not saying they HAVE to cheer, it just seems kinda lovely to me to personally to be honest.
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Dec 14, 2015 05:30
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Soul Glo posted:It'll prob/hopefully be like I really, really hope they've finally worked that out. It's hard to have faith, though.
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Dec 14, 2015 05:30
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DynamiteKidd posted:I certainly enjoy the fact that we're currently laughing at the reports of Roman's overness that we received from our own eyes and ears There's a difference with Roman. When Austin did it to Vince Austin was already super over. When Daniel Bryan did it to Hunter, Bryan was SUPER over with the crowd. Roman has NEVER been over like he was since he's been solo. This is just a temporary fix, that can wear off as soon as Raw or Smackdown start. Couple that with another year that is now a decent possibility of Roman winning the Rumble in order to get a title shot. I'm not for that.
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Dec 14, 2015 05:31
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It's the 4th time they've given Sheamus a bad world title reign, and they've been loving around with Reigns since exactly a year ago (TLC 2014:  )You want to earn respect for that match from a crowd, you should have went into it with at least one success or a slightly-less-longer streak of loving up
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Dec 14, 2015 05:31
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*miz's music hits, everyone shuffles their feet and loudly claps while looking around awkwardly*
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Dec 14, 2015 05:31
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Fawf posted:It doesn't matter whose fault how lovely the booking or writing is, storytelling's a huge part of wrestling and if the WWE makes it impossible to invest in any of the characters then it isn't the crowd's fault.
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Dec 14, 2015 05:32
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Hammerstein posted:If you blame the company I would agree. But both men really tried their best today. there's a lot to blame. the booking. roman not being particular good to begin with and how transparently they try to hide it with with gimmicks and ~big spots~. the heatless title reign that is sheamus (sheamus himself is fine in-ring). it all coalesced into a bad product that no one had any reason to give a poo poo about, and just going out there and trying doesn't earn you anything from the crowd because the crowd doesn't pay hundreds of dollars because "well, they'll try."
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Dec 14, 2015 05:33
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Jiro posted:There's a difference with Roman. When Austin did it to Vince Austin was already super over. When Daniel Bryan did it to Hunter, Bryan was SUPER over with the crowd. Roman has NEVER been over like he was since he's been solo. This is just a temporary fix, that can wear off as soon as Raw or Smackdown start. Couple that with another year that is now a decent possibility of Roman winning the Rumble in order to get a title shot. I'm not for that. oh crap he's going to get "fired" tomorrow and SURPRISE ROMANS IN THE RUMBLE and then he's going to win reality always sucks more than possibility
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Dec 14, 2015 05:33
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Codependent Poster posted:The crowd would be super hot into anyone murdering HHH. How long are people going to work to convince themselves that Roman is never over ever? They NEED to keep Roman like this, but if they do I guarantee you he'll be major over in no time. That match AND post-match was basically perfect in terms of getting the crowd back on Roman's side. They can very easily gently caress it up though. Needs More Ditka posted:and if I remember correctly, back then they had Vince and Trips to cut lengthy promos and all Austin had to do was get in their faces and go "EH EH AUSTIN 3:16 BOTTOM LINE CAN O WHOOP rear end *flips bird* *stunner* *runs mouth off mic*" You are 100% right, and if they did that with Roman he would get SO loving over. The one encouraging sign is they kept alluding to Roman's kayfabe firing and Roman even yelled from atop the table "I KNOW I'M FIRED, I DON'T CARE NOW!" and he proceeded to continue murder, so...maybe WWE is getting a clue? Possibly?
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Dec 14, 2015 05:34
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SamuraiFoochs posted:But see that's the thing. Austin sold a lot and made big comebacks. So did Rock. That match was actually perfect. The problem is him cutting lengthy promos and jokey jokes. Sheamus had like 80% of the match, he put Roman through 3 tables before roman hit much of anything. Sure, Austin sold in big matches vs top opponents but didn't sell the whole match for everyone he fought and he knew when he shouldn't be selling for people to keep himself strong. And goldberg rarely sold at all and was plenty over. Roman had trouble beating the big show a month ago. In kayfabe, Roman should not be losing a fair fight to Sheamus which he almost managed to do. This is mostly to do with how weak Sheamus has looked up until this match, and why this match didn't work for what it was.
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Dec 14, 2015 05:35
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Jiro posted:There's a difference with Roman. When Austin did it to Vince Austin was already super over. When Daniel Bryan did it to Hunter, Bryan was SUPER over with the crowd. Roman has NEVER been over like he was since he's been solo. This is just a temporary fix, that can wear off as soon as Raw or Smackdown start. Couple that with another year that is now a decent possibility of Roman winning the Rumble in order to get a title shot. I'm not for that. and again, as much as that post-match segment is the kind of thing that roman should have been doing for ages, it's also one small part of wrestling and he is not particularly good at the other 90% of it.
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Dec 14, 2015 05:35
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The point is they GOT invested and instead of building off of that, they went right back to getting themselves over and faking being jaded, only to get reinvested again. It was a Something Awful GDT in real life. E: Oh Snapple!: name one top guy in the WWE that was groomed to be the top guy who was actually good at what you think the other 90% is. gently caress, name one consistently top guy who was. If you say Daniel Bryan or CM Punk I will laugh at you on the Internet MadRhetoric fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Dec 14, 2015 |
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Dec 14, 2015 05:36
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I personally don't have any sympathy for anyone who buys a ticket to a WWE main roster show. Anyone who watches Raw and decides 'yeah, it'll be worth paying hundreds of dollars to watch this' deserves a lousy show.
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Dec 14, 2015 05:36
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i'd be more than happy to be proven wrong but the people who have spent a thousand dollars on a trip to wrestlemania made the decision to boo roman reigns already
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Dec 14, 2015 05:37
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was someone there who can explain why flair was losing his poo poo after charlotte's match?
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Dec 14, 2015 05:38
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To clarify, I mean watches Raw and dislikes it. If you like Raw then go hog wild, reward WWE for putting on a good show you like, and if you don't then punish them by not giving them your goddamn money.
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Dec 14, 2015 05:40
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Reigns is now almost as over as lighter fluid.
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Dec 14, 2015 05:42
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oatgan posted:i'd be more than happy to be proven wrong but the people who have spent a thousand dollars on a trip to wrestlemania made the decision to boo roman reigns already
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Dec 14, 2015 05:42
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Blasmeister posted:Sheamus had like 80% of the match, he put Roman through 3 tables before roman hit much of anything. Sure, Austin sold in big matches vs top opponents but didn't sell the whole match for everyone he fought and he knew when he shouldn't be selling for people to keep himself strong. And goldberg rarely sold at all and was plenty over. Roman had trouble beating the big show a month ago. In kayfabe, Roman should not be losing a fair fight to Sheamus which he almost managed to do. This is mostly to do with how weak Sheamus has looked up until this match, and why this match didn't work for what it was. When I say it was perfect what I meant was it was a very good exercise in getting the crowd to be more into Roman. See the problem is if he Goldberg'd Sheamus TONIGHT, there would've just been thunderous boos. What they needed to do was have the two of them beat the gently caress outta each other, then gradually had Roman do more cool poo poo (Superman Punch off ladder through table springs to mind), then get screwed, then MURDERDEATHKILL. They need to run with the tonal shift, but if they do that, this was a great first step.
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Dec 14, 2015 05:43
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WTF happened to Barrett?
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Dec 14, 2015 05:51
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https://twitter.com/angelsmilehes/status/676250363088011264?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Dec 14, 2015 05:53
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I really wish the TLC game was real. It seems pretty cool.
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Dec 14, 2015 06:08
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cant wait to go into philly to see raw tomorrow. ill be the guy dead center tv side w/ the new day gear on.
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Dec 14, 2015 06:10
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Angular Landbury posted:WTF happened to Barrett?
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Dec 14, 2015 06:17
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oatgan posted:i will ruin him with thunderous boos and the sheeple at texas stadium will follow my lead you son of a bitch oatgan
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Dec 14, 2015 06:23
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just got around to watching the 2 most important things: tag match and lana's outfit. both extremely good
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Dec 14, 2015 06:36
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Rude fans have refused to get behind Sheamus since 2009. hosed up imo. It's because he's an arse
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Dec 14, 2015 06:38
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Lux Crownguard posted:It's because he's an arse a tater tarse
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Dec 14, 2015 06:50
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MotU posted:just got around to watching the 2 most important things: tag match and lana's outfit. both extremely good MotU you know I wouldn't steer you wrong so I also urge you to, for hype purposes, watch Ambrose's win and the aftermath of the main.
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Dec 14, 2015 10:18
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hi that was a good ending and the roman I want to see bye
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Dec 14, 2015 10:29
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This show had the best opener I've seen in a while, completely crazy and Wrestlemania-level. A lot of the rest was dull until they got to Ambrose/Owens. Didn't think anything interesting would come of a Sheamus match, but I was proven wrong.
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Dec 14, 2015 10:34
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You guys are all really just appeased by anything. What was exciting about the post-main last night? Who cares about a feud with HHH in 2015/2016? It's gonna be Roman doing the same boring poo poo he's been doing except now HE'S A WILDMAN.
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Phenix Rising posted:You guys are all really just appeased by anything. What was exciting about the post-main last night? Who cares about a feud with HHH in 2015/2016? It's gonna be Roman doing the same boring poo poo he's been doing except now HE'S A WILDMAN. A guy who people like when he beats the poo poo out of people but has been booked like a talky stupid guy beat the poo poo out of a bunch of people. People like when they get things they like. See also: The guy in your avatar would still get big pops this year despite being utterly poo poo at everything because his career has been "Hey, fans like chanting things, I'm going to give them a thing to chant because it'll make them happy".
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