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Great White Hope posted:A guy who people like when he beats the poo poo out of people but has been booked like a talky stupid guy beat the poo poo out of a bunch of people. People like when they get things they like. Hacksaw was always meant to be a doofus, though, and was never made out to be an actual tough guy (TOUGH GUUUUUUUY) in WWE. Roman has been a COMPLETE doofus. I guess it's too little too late for me on Reigns, or maybe at best too early for me to get excited about this going anywhere actually enjoyable. I don't have any confidence that they won't continue to make him look like a total moron.
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Phenix Rising posted:Hacksaw was always meant to be a doofus, though, and was never made out to be an actual tough guy (TOUGH GUUUUUUUY) in WWE. Roman has been a COMPLETE doofus. I guess it's too little too late for me on Reigns, or maybe at best too early for me to get excited about this going anywhere actually enjoyable. I don't have any confidence that they won't continue to make him look like a total moron. Long story short: never go FULL doofus. Reigns works better as a Lesnar. The ending of the PPV showed that. Might make the Authority interesting again to see them in genuine fear of someone instead of being the typical backstage machinations people.
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Not sold on it because it's entirely too easy to follow up last night with more of the same. Roman gets hosed by the Authority, overcomes stupid odds with superman booking, blah blah blah nothing new. BUT there's at least a chance to make a storyline and some developed characters out of this and that's honestly infinitely more than I expected of this match.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:MotU you know I wouldn't steer you wrong so I also urge you to, for hype purposes, watch Ambrose's win and the aftermath of the main. i will I just had a long night and early morning
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That DICK! posted:People really liked that ending? I think Roman still hesitates way too much which takes away from what should be more explosive offense, but I liked it otherwise.
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That DICK! posted:People really liked that ending? Yeah. It was fun. We had fun watching wrestling last night. I'm sorry you didn't. I've been there before too.
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That DICK! posted:People really liked that ending? This time last year Roman had his "stares awkwardly at camera forgetting lines" moment By the end, last night's Roman (postmatch) was better than that Roman. By universes.
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That DICK! posted:People really liked that ending? They want to believe it will lead to anything good ignoring that it's still lovely Reigns as the focus.
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kdrudy posted:They want to believe it will lead to anything good ignoring that it's still lovely Reigns as the focus. And that the ultimate goal is still to shove him into the John Cena-shaped hole.
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I guess some of us don't just want to sit around being negative all the time. Yeah, they might very well gently caress it up tonight and have Roman do a looney tunes promo. Or they might not, we will see. For the moment though, they had him do the thing he should have been doing all the time. I don't even like Reigns that much, but if they want him to be the top guy, then this is the only way to do it as a face.
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If Reigns keeps wrestling at this level, as he has for at least a couple of months now, I will not really have a problem with him as The Guy. If they could pull the trigger on his incredibly boring friendship storyline with Ambrose, that would be cool too. The people bagging on people for "actually liking" the Triple H/Reigns stuff are coming off like dorky smarks, by the way. That was cool and good. I almost didn't watch this show because I was sick of ho-hum WWE PPVs featuring a lot of Raw-quality matches, and other than some filler in the middle of the card this was a good show, especially compared to what we've been getting lately for the "nothing" PPVs.
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Eltoasto posted:I guess some of us don't just want to sit around being negative all the time. Yeah, they might very well gently caress it up tonight and have Roman do a looney tunes promo. Or they might not, we will see. For the moment though, they had him do the thing he should have been doing all the time. I don't even like Reigns that much, but if they want him to be the top guy, then this is the only way to do it as a face. It's beyond fair to be pessimistic about this, regardless of how it goes. Even if it turns out well: Last TLC was the "stares at camera desperately trying to remember scripted lines" Reigns. Meaning it officially took a full year for them to progress to regressing to his Shield aggressiveness character. It shouldn't take you 365 days to make a right decision when you had already been doing it before
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WWE's problem in relation to Reigns is that they refuse to commit to a booking style. He's a silent badass, he's a Cena-lite beans enthusiast, he's a crybaby, he's a chair-wielding tough guy, he's whatever Vince decides last second. Whenever he gets momentum they either write him a crowd-killing promo that makes him look like a stupid idiot or they get cold feet with his push because he's not catching on and they can't take a hint. Reigns's problem in relation to WWE on the other hand is that he's nowhere near good enough to compensate for any of the above failures. He's not a good enough wrestler to gain the workrate smarks on board, he's not charismatic to generate fan interest organically with or without their help, and he's not a good enough talker to spin poo poo promos into gold. He's carryable by someone better, but he's not a leading man by any stretch.
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Honestly, sometimes the negativity here is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I've been enjoying myself with the league of nations plotline.
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Senerio posted:Honestly, sometimes the negativity here is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I've been enjoying myself with the league of nations plotline. Me too but I promised I wouldn't post anything griping about Other Fans anymore. Life's too short to get mad about wrestling online.
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zakharov posted:Me too but I promised I wouldn't post anything griping about Other Fans anymore. Life's too short to get mad about wrestling online. That's fair. I just find I tend to enjoy the show more when I'm not reading the GDT than when I am, and I blame it on the threads daring to be sour.
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Senerio posted:That's fair. I just find I tend to enjoy the show more when I'm not reading the GDT than when I am, and I blame it on the threads daring to be sour. I agree with you. I watch PPVs with some friends while doing my best not to check Twitter. This helps me enjoy the show more and laugh at the ridiculous parts without turning into an annoying smark. I highly recommend it!
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DynamiteKidd posted:I certainly enjoy the fact that we're currently laughing at the reports of Roman's overness that we received from our own eyes and ears I enjoy people still assuming he's a bad wrestler after being the second best guy in WWE for the calendar year after Cesaro. But he's totally gassed this time, guys!
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Alain Post posted:I enjoy people still assuming he's a bad wrestler after being the second best guy in WWE for the calendar year after Cesaro. But he's totally gassed this time, guys! Third-best. Cena was #1
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Alain Post posted:I enjoy people still assuming he's a bad wrestler after being the second best guy in WWE for the calendar year after Cesaro. But he's totally gassed this time, guys! *something about shameful backs and his inability to deadlift 300 pounds up to his nipples with one arm meaning that he's worse than Lex Luger or whatever*
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zakharov posted:I agree with you. I watch PPVs with some friends while doing my best not to check Twitter. This helps me enjoy the show more and laugh at the ridiculous parts without turning into an annoying smark. I highly recommend it! same
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https://twitter.com/MichaelPSHayes1/status/676500268998094850 Agreeing with a racist itt, smdh
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Chris James 2 posted:https://twitter.com/MichaelPSHayes1/status/676500268998094850 While I agree that last night was a good show overall, I hate the argument that effort equals quality. Plenty of people work really hard to make lovely things.
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Charles Gnarwin posted:While I agree that last night was a good show overall, I hate the argument that effort equals quality. Plenty of people work really hard to make lovely things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KpMXRv4iUo
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Charles Gnarwin posted:While I agree that last night was a good show overall, I hate the argument that effort equals quality. Plenty of people work really hard to make lovely things. https://youtu.be/kd6MCIEkztQ
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I still think Roman is a trash fire but if they are bound and determined to make something out of him, last night's ending was a good way to go about it. The big question is whether they follow up on it correctly tonight. Roman should be nowhere near a microphone. He should show up, destroy Sheamus and/or HHH, and leave. That's all they have to do.
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I don't understand this theoretical scenario in which Reigns is booked "correctly" and somehow becomes interesting/good
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Charles Gnarwin posted:While I agree that last night was a good show overall, I hate the argument that effort equals quality. Plenty of people work really hard to make lovely things. Something something your post history something something.
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The Landstander posted:I don't understand this theoretical scenario in which Reigns is booked "correctly" and somehow becomes interesting/good It involves de-emphasizing his weaknesses, which include talking, or wrestling for longer than three minutes.
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