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Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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The big issue with ROTS (and the PT in general, but mostly ROTS) is that the audience knows that Anakin's going to turn... The only question in the audience's mind is "what specifically is going to cause this guy to turn," but the answer is nothing surprising.

ROTS could have been amazing if it was more like Minority Report. Minority Report is built around the premise that we KNOW Tom Cruise is going to murder someone in 2 hours, but the how and why is totally withheld until the last second... the entire film is a slow build to that moment. I'd have loved a ROTS that opened with Vader at some event, and then the film flashes back a week or so, and Anakin is still Anakin, and then the whole film is this waiting game that gets more tense as time goes on.

Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Dec 14, 2015

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Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Clapping at a film is probably attributable to the effects of social media, and the 'like' stuff on facebook or whatever.

mods, please delete cinema discusso

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Saw this last night - some questions!!

- Does anyone think that the Cantina scene was a last-minute insert? This part felt weird to me because it didn't seem to match the environs at all. The Mos Eisley cantina was dingy bar in the middle of a town. The exterior of this cantina looks like a Tibetan temple, and it's in the middle of an empty, lush valley, and yet it's just another a dive bar. Which apparently has a basement full of treasure that none of the drunk patrons find interesting? Anyways, it felt to me like originally, Maz Kanata was going to be a Yoda-type who lived alone and had some relics in her basement, but late in the game they decided to cram a Cantina into the mix.

- Around the 3/4 mark, when Leia is talking to someone in the rebel base (I don't remember the specifics), there's one really odd cut where it looked like they lopped off 30 seconds of dialogue. The camera awkwardly cuts from Leia mid-sentence to another angle of Leia, and it really stood out to me. Anyone else notice this?

- On a similar note, what was up with that closing shot? Why have an epic, rotating helicopter shot when you're only going to show 2.5 seconds of the footage?

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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turtlecrunch posted:

The giant statue outside the "temple" is Maz.

That makes it even weirder - a dive bar that has a statue of the proprietor in front?

Jose Oquendo posted:

I liked the ending shot, but different strokes.

It's not a "bad" shot, it's just cut too short... It felt like a 30 second shot that they decided to cut down to 3 because they were afraid the audience would get bored.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Between the samurai guy whacking stormtroopers with a wooden katana, the surprisingly drab aesthetic, corny lines that nobody would say in real life, and extremely forced dialogue delivery, this doesn't look so good to me. Looks and sounds like a late Hunger Games film with stormtroopers and AT-ATs

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Normal people - not something awful users - haven't even thought about TFA since approximately 2 weeks after it was released. I just had to do a google search to remember the characters' names and how their arcs left off.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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The trailer has some amazing dramatic shots and ship porn, but all of the characters seem pretty flat and awful.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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In The Force Awakens do they ever say why they're trying to find Luke? They already blew up the new Death Star - in fact, it seemed pretty easy to blow up! What specifically do they want Luke to do?

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Bongo Bill posted:

Same thing the old rebels wanted Obi-Wan to do.

In A New Hope Luke meets Obi Wan and it's the start of his grand adventure. In this movie Rey finds Luke in the very last scene when the adventure is seemingly concluded. They're trying to lead into the next movie but the problem is that I have no idea what specifically they're leading into. I guess they have to kill Snoke eventually?


Is this something that's specifically communicated in the movie (I honestly don't remember) or rather conjecture? Leia seems to be doing a really good job leading the resistance.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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I'm really curious about how well Rogue One is going to do. On one hand, it's a loving star wars film and so it should automatically make a trillion dollars. On the other hand I haven't heard a single person in real life talk about it—ever!—and I hang out in nerdy circles. It could be because the election has dominated all of the conversation in the past few months, but I feel like there's more to it than that.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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That's mostly true, but the MCU movies do get covered a lot—I've read so many loving articles about Dr Strange, but other than the trailer reveals, practically nothing about Rogue One.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Vintersorg posted:

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/ho...dium=socialflow

"How The gently caress High Was This New Yorker Guy When He Wrote This Star Wars Take?"

This article is really stupid. It's basically just him quoting parts of the review—parts that make perfect sense—and saying "WHUHHH?" The New Yorker is a magazine written for adults and this guy basically seems upset that it's not written like the rest of the web, at a 6th grade reading level

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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The trailer isn't bad but it feels like they introduce sooo little content that's actually new since TFA. There's more of Luke's island, a desert planet, and some shots that are waaaaay too similar to shots used in the TFA trailer: especially the millenium falcon swooping into combat over a planet and people running around as a ship explodes in a hangar.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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sportsgenius86 posted:

that's kind of the point of a teaser trailer though

It's not common at all for a teaser for a sequel to introduce zero new characters, villains, or locations! I mean I'm sure this movie will have new characters villains and locations but so far we've seen none of them (I guess some of the locations we see could be new ones but there's no way of knowing - unlike locations like hoth and bespin which are immediately visually unique)

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Thinking about it a little more I think my problems with this trailer are mostly due to the way TFA ended.

We didn't really need to actually see Rey landing in Ireland and meeting Luke at the end of TFA... it would have been just as effective (actually, probably more effective) to end with her flying off into the sky alone. And of course, the Ireland shots in this teaser would be 10 times as effective if we didn't already see Ireland.

We also didn't need to see John Boyega laying unconscious at the end of TFA: they could have left his fate totally uncertain and, in addition to making the first movie's ending more potent, it would make the moment in this teaser where you see him comatose a lot more effective.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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Liverastic posted:

I really hope we don't get to a trend where movies are made to accommodate the effectiveness of the teaser trailers for their sequels.

That's exactly the opposite of what I'm saying. What I'm saying is if ANH ended with Luke saying "ok, now my next step is to go to Hoth," and he flies to Hoth, and you see an AT-AT in the distance and then the credits rolled, people would be less impressed when they first saw Hoth in ESB. But ANH doesn't do that because it's a fuckin awesome movie... it ends when its story ends without going further to explicitly set up a sequel.

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Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

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AndyElusive posted:

Why do these land speeder things look familiar? Have they shown up someplace before or were they a concept from Ralph McQuarrie or something? I swear I've seen them or something similar someplace.

I think they look a lot like the shiny ship from episode 1, except not shiny.

edit: google says what i'm talking about is an "N-1 starfighter"

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