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Bongo Bill posted:I just want to mention, for the record, that the Star Wars prequels are good. 
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I know they're being intentionally vague because of the NDA and poo poo, but still, it's hard not to get excited when you read something like this:quote:Not going to say much till I see it again but rest assured THE FORCE AWAKENS is the best STAR WARS since 1983...maybe 1980.
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Dec 15, 2015 08:01
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morestuff posted:El-P hated it, so I guess it's bad
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Dec 15, 2015 18:19
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jivjov posted:Speaking of Star Wars on the big screen, I'm not sure I've told this tale on SA before or not...but the marathon on Thursday will be my first time seeing Attack of the Clones in theaters. My mom passed away a few days before its original theatrical run and, for obvious reason, dad and I never got around to going to that one.  Also show up to the marathon late. Attack of the Clones is not worth watching. You haven't missed anything.
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Dec 15, 2015 20:06
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MrBigglesworth posted:Opinions.
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Dec 15, 2015 20:42
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Aw poo poo, black bars. gently caress it, I'm out until after I see it tomorrow night. I picked up my ticket at the theater after work and tomorrow I'm gonna be marathoning the original trilogy on VHS before seeing Force Awakens. But yeah, I don't wanna be spoiled. See y'all on the other side.
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Dec 17, 2015 01:44
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I seriously loved this, more than I thought I could love a new Star Wars movie in the year 2015. This is the type of new Star Wars movie I hoped I would get as a kid that the prequels never gave me. I was captivated by all the new characters and environments. It had a ton of humor, I think more than the original trilogy even had, and it was great to see a Star Wars movie that was able to have so much fun with itself. Also the Stormtroopers finally felt capable for once and had sleeker weaponry, which I really dug, but this still felt grounded in the Star Wars universe. For example, the displays and buttons and knobs and such all evoked the original trilogy. And the crew charging the Starkiller weapon felt a lot like the crew charging the Death Star's weapon, which, that's probably a minor detail, but I appreciated it so much. I don't even know what else to type right now. I'm so happy that this was so good. And I'm already looking forward to seeing it again tomorrow. It left me with so much to digest but also left me hungry for more.
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Dec 18, 2015 08:58
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Another thing I really loving appreciated a whole lot: For a little while, I was dreading that the movie was going to end as Rey took off from the Republic base to go find Luke, that that would get saved until the next movie. But no! Her journey there wasn't dragged out forever like lesser movies might've done. She got there in a loving instant, met Luke and presented him with his saber. We got a look at him. He looked just how I wanted him to. And now in the next movie in the series, we'll get to see his reaction to the recent events of this movie, which I'm down with. Keep these movies coming for years. I'm all in. No joke. Bongo Bill posted:The backstory goes something like this: Ben Solo is sent away from home to train with Luke Skywalker, who has other pupils at the time. At some point, he comes under the influence of Supreme Leader Snoke, who persuades him to renounce his family and join the First Order. He betrays and murders the other Jedi and helps the First Order hunt down the last of them, except for Luke, who goes into exile. This whole thing is so shocking to Han and Leia that they separate. Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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Dec 18, 2015 09:05
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teagone posted:I think some people aren't giving Kylo Ren enough credit towards the end. The dude took a blaster shot to the gut, was clearly bleeding out and in pain, and he was was still able to fend off (for the the most part) both Finn and Rey, both of whom have been shown to be very capable combatants and are Force sensitive. Rey is also clearly some super strong Force being so her being able to best Kylo, despite her lack of any Jedi training, isn't because Kylo Ren is "pathetic" or whatever. If anything, it just goes to show just how likely powerful Rey can, and will, become.
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Dec 18, 2015 09:20
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bhsman posted:Movie owned, characters owned, anybody who doesn't 'get' Ren's character probably won't like the trilogy and have my pity. What's not to like about him? His character owns. He's a great villain for the series.
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Dec 18, 2015 09:27
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MisterBibs posted:The thing about that scene is that not only is Rey innately blocking his attempt to read her mind, but she's reading his instead, pointing out how scared he is of not being as strong as Vader. Bonus points for the first half of that scene, she doesn't even realize she's blocking him. She only puts two and two together when she sees he's really loving struggling to pull any info out.
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Dec 18, 2015 09:35
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bhsman posted:I also liked how Rey and Finn had distinctly different styles with Finn going for more traditional weaves/slashes, whereas Rei went for a lot of stabs that forced Ren to deflect
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Dec 18, 2015 09:42
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bhsman posted:I need to head to bed, but I think they imply a connection as you hear some of the 'Millions of voices crying out and then silenced' bit from his perspective, and perhaps he also had some combat training that allowed him to be somewhat proficient.
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Dec 18, 2015 09:52
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The Resistance seems like a small team of people including Leia, 3PO, R2, Ackbar and some other holdovers from the OT as well as new hires like Poe that have a very specific mission.
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Dec 18, 2015 10:06
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Mitchicon posted:Stormtroopers are the Red Shirts of the Empire.
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Dec 18, 2015 10:08
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teagone posted:These new stormtroopers are different than the ones in the OT, no? General Lux mentions his First Order troops are badasses trained from birth after Kylo Ren makes quip about Snoke having to create a Clone Army because Lux's troops aren't getting the job done.
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Dec 18, 2015 10:16
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teagone posted:He also unflinchingly wields a lightsaber, without any proper training, against the First Order's primary enforcer who is a trained dark side Force user and nearly sacrifices himself by doing so in the process. Finn's got some massive balls. Megasabin posted:Maybe interesting wasn't the right word. Likeable? Charismatic? Like many people I re-watched the OT for the first time in many years a few weeks ago, and what stood out to me the most about A New Hope, was just how drat fun/charming it was to watch Han, Luke, and Leia interact with each other. Their dialogue was funny and authentic, and you could their relationships develop throughout the film. I didn't feel that nearly as much with the new trio, especially since 2 of them barley talk to each other. Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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Dec 18, 2015 10:30
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I watched the Conan episode with the whole cast and crew after I got home, and yeah, it was weird hearing John Boyega speak in his normal voice after hearing him as Finn for 2 hours.
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Dec 18, 2015 11:00
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Saw this again a few hours ago, this time in 2D. Loved it again. I can confirm that there absolutely is a Wilhelm scream in this movie now. I thought I heard one when I saw it last night but I wasn't sure. But nope, I definitely heard it today. JJ really knew what to take from the original trilogy for this one to make it feel like a Star Wars movie 
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Dec 19, 2015 00:33
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HotCanadianChick posted:Waiting for our dinner and drinks to arrive and the movie to start:
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Dec 19, 2015 01:57
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qbert posted:Edit: Also the prequels might have actually been good if we had Adam Driver playing Anakin with basically the exact same characterization as Kylo Ren.
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Dec 19, 2015 02:53
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teagone posted:Adam Driver is a pretty unique looking individual. Like, if it were somehow scientifically possible for them to have a child together, it would be Adam Driver.
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Dec 19, 2015 05:34
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Frackie Robinson posted:Also is it just me, or has C-3PO gained weight since the OT?
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Dec 19, 2015 05:37
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This is probably really stupid but is Snoke a giant alien or just a hologram being projected much larger than the real person/being actually is? I mean at one point he sure looks like a hologram that disappears, kind of like the Emperor is in Empire Strikes Back.
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Dec 19, 2015 06:05
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Frackie Robinson posted:He is a hologram. I think the hologram tech has improved in the intervening decades. I mean there's the very real possibility that this is never explained, too.
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Dec 19, 2015 06:09
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SeANMcBAY posted:He's probably an alien since I doubt even Lucas would have done an all cgi human character. It's entirely possible and I'm not saying it can be ruled out, just seems a little unprecedented.
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Dec 19, 2015 06:18
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Bongo Bill posted:Maybe that's why he only communicates directly with Hux and Kylo.  That would make sense.
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Dec 19, 2015 06:22
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Boon posted:drew a clear distinction between evil and good (and, I think, took special consideration to define the FO as super-evil super space Nazis) I agreed with him. That was some heavy poo poo for a Star Wars movie.
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Dec 19, 2015 06:45
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Lord Krangdar posted:It wasn't that far from imagery in the previous movies. Just bigger, like the bigger death star. It was more evocative and intense than anything from the OT, I'd say.
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Dec 19, 2015 07:07
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teagone posted:How anyone could find Kylo Ren as an ineffective or a laughing stock of villain is beyond me. He might be pitiful, but he's an absolute terror. The dude is loving nuts. He's a basket case, total mental, with a great abundance of power at his disposal. He does stuff that we've never seen any other Jedi or Sith do; his manipulation of the Force is violent, aggressive, and when paired with his mentally unhinged, yet tragic, personality... that's loving scary. The guy is a force to be reckoned with because of his unpredictability. It might be funny to some because he comes across as a petulant manchild, but he's not the kind of character that other characters would want to laugh at because he'd probably mind gently caress you to death with the Force if you ever made fun of him and his Darth Vader obsession.
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Dec 20, 2015 02:46
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Mentally conflicted/unhinged people with deadly weapons and a penchant for violent tantrums aren't threatening? Ooooooooooooookay.......
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Dec 20, 2015 02:57
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jivjov posted:He does plenty of "legitimately threatening" things in Episode VII. I'm starting to suspect you haven't actually seen the movie.
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Dec 20, 2015 03:22
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MisterBibs posted:I could say the same thing about you, because I simply cannot fathom how anyone found him threatening at all. I guess it boils down to higher/lower tolerances for silliness; I'll leave it at that if you will.  if your definition of "silly" involves killing people and flying off the handle with deadly weapons on a regular basis.
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Dec 20, 2015 03:26
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:They wouldn't get a major actress from Game of Thrones unless they planned on using her for more than 2 minutes.
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Dec 20, 2015 03:46
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Craig was the guard who got mind tricked yeah? He was just a guard, Phasma is a named character in a badass new storm trooper suit we haven't seen yet, shes not going to die without some serious development in 8, although it would be pretty fun if they got a got actor in just to kill them off instantly imo. They gave him more development in the prequel trilogy than he ever got in the original trilogy and that was loving stupid and unnecessary.
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Dec 20, 2015 04:07
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:It's been a long time since I saw the other movies but the way Boba is handled vs Phasma is completely different. Phasma is an important part of a main characters back story and former life, Bobas just a bounty hunter.
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Dec 20, 2015 04:17
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Caros posted:I'd be surprised if they even paid him. Strikes me like it was a "I wanna be in star wars!" situation.
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Dec 20, 2015 04:21
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teagone posted:When Poe and Finn find out one other is alive after their TIE fighter crash, that was the bro-est loving moment and I loved every second of it. "That's my jacket" Finn starts to take it off "No, no keep it. It suits you." loving
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Saw it a 3rd time today, my 2nd IMAX 3D viewing. The magic is still there for me. Noticed a couple things this time that I hadn't before: - When Finn is brought back to the Resistance base at the very end, someone says "Got a heartbeat.", so he's definitely not dead. Not that I thought he was, but yeah. That just confirms that he's not. -Is it just me or could this movie have been made at least several years ago and remained mostly if not completely intact had it had the same people work on it? It has a tried & true old-fashioned design aesthetic and nothing feels overly flashy or like it's solely dependent upon new 2015 moviemaking technology. For example, at the very end when Rey is on the island about to meet Luke, she looks back at the Falcon and Chewie roars at her. The Falcon doesn't look clean or new or perfect. It looks battle-worn, like it's been through some heavy poo poo for a long time, which it has. It just forgoes choices that most other action movies nowadays make, making it feel like something that isn't necessarily a product of 2015.
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net cafe scandal posted:I think it's insane that it took you three viewings to hear the heartbeat line, but, alright. It's like when I saw Mad Max Fury Road at multiple different theaters and noticed lines of dialogue on my 2nd viewing that I hadn't heard on my 1st.
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