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The only people who think that Chinese society is even in the same galaxy in terms of human rights or free thought has clearly never lived there. We are talking about a place where the very concept of human rights is directly proscribed by the government.
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Ddraig posted:Quite. It's not as if there are other governments that have documents pertaining to human rights and what they are and that no two can seem to come to a consensus about what exactly they are. If you want to handwave away your right to religious freedom and not being forced to incriminate yourself as "a political tool" feel free (pun intended), but I suspect you've never lived anywhere where these rights aren't a core part of society. There are plenty of western societies that were like China is today, like Nazi Germany and the USSR. Trying to take criticisms of China's government and twisting it into some kind of racist stereotyping is grasping at straws.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:44
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Certainly when I think about people who endure terrible lives in discriminatory conditions, the Han Chinese are the first in my mind, especially those living in America who disproportionately attend elite universities.
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Dec 25, 2015 12:55
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If by "stereotypes of China" we mean "basic, observable facts" than yes, I am more likely to believe bad things about the Chinese government. China has basically every problem America does except 10X worse and anyone who talks about it or tries to change it is subject to arrest and/or death. If this forum were based in China talking about Chinese society it would have been shut down years ago and its members spirited away.
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Dec 26, 2015 00:20
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